Real Talk: Ace Didn't Need to Ask For Help, It's On Garp

i always hate when i see comments about how ace was an idiot or ace should have just asked garp for help because, no? like dawg wtf do you mean?

the one thing we have been told repeatedly across the manga and anime is that ace could have lived his entire life being perfect and he still would have ended up on that podium

he could have become a marine, a police officer, a teacher, a chef and all of that would have been reduced to nothing the moment his parentage was discovered

yes, ace became a pirate of his own volition, but sengoku never mentioned his piracy

he never mentioned all the criminal activity ace did as the captain of the spade pirates or even later as the second division leader of the whitebeard pirates

you know what sengoku did bring up though the moment he got on that damn podium? ace's parentage

#ace!!#screaming ugh garp and ace make me so so so so incredibly emo #that's his fuckigngn grandpa!!!!!!#i love garp but god he was shitty about this #it's what makes him interesting but oof #look she's not writing #one piece #portgas d ace #fire fist ace #monkey d garp #text #theories #story #ace

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quinloki

alexa-fika asked:

Hey Quin whats your opinion on people saying that Ace has Stocholm syndrome? Can’t for the life of me remeber if it was here that it was brought up or somewhere else.

But they said that Ace Had Stockholm syndrome after being brought to the Moby Dick and at first I was like wait hold up they onto something but then I remembered

Although Ace’s first introduction in the Moby Dick was involuntary if I remember correctly he was brought for medical attention no?

Regardless if he was brought aboard to be recruited or not he was never chained down, something that we see teasing him for. He wasen’t coerced at any point nor blackmailed to stay, in fact Marco told him to his face that he could either leave or stay. So I ‘m not sure I am leaning towards no because of that fact but I wanted to hear your two cents on this.

quinloki answered:

I haven't heard anyone bringing it up, but re-reading chapter 552 (the first time we get a decent flashback of how it went) I don't think Ace had stockholm's at all.

And Stockholm syndrome is a weird thing in and of itself. The point in time when the phrase was coined wasn't even for a real instance of what the phrase has become known for. It was used to gaslight a woman's very real experience during a bank robbery - because the police had screwed the whole thing up so bad. Instead of admit they had handled things poorly they said the robbers had effectively brain washed the hostages.

Which isn't to say that the phenomenon it describes isn't a possibility.

This is one of "Sometimes the fandom is weird" kind of moments. I don't know why anyone would start thinking that was part of the narrative for Ace and the WBP. It's kind of cruel, honestly, to diminish what he was to them, and what they were to him, by basically saying he was brainwashed into believing they cared about him.

Now, I could see it being used as a premise for a Fan Fic, sure, and that could be something interesting to dive into, especially if you take into consideration that Stockholm's itself isn't even 100% believed to be a thing.

But to say it as far as canon goes? Utter hogwash. Someone's either trying to stir the pot, or their reading comprehension is poor.

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fakescorpion

We need to talk about Crocodile and Mihawk’s relationship, and how notably odd it is.

Considering both of them are very smart men, they must know beforehand the moment their names appear together in the same organization, they are essentially declaring to the World Government that they are creating another emperor crew.

Now here’s the strange part.

Crocodile—being extremely intelligent—must know that in an ideal universe where Buggy did not fuck shit up and that Crocodile and Mihawk are rightfully recognized as the true leaders of Cross Guild, World Government would look at these two names side-by-side and come to the conclusion that Mihawk should be named the emperor, seen as there is a significant gap between their issued bounties. That can only mean when Crocodile made that phone call, he already had the intention of making Mihawk the king, right? Another evidence is that Crocodile even named their organization Cross Guild, after Mihawk and his cross motif.

On the other hand, Mihawk does not want to be an emperor. Mihawk makes this very clear and his opinion on this matter has never changed. That can only mean when Mihawk accepted Crocodile’s offer, he already had the intention of becoming Crocodile’s right-hand commander, right? True to this assumption, it is mostly Crocodile making the decisions in the few panels we see of their interaction with Mihawk following his lead, from recruiting Buggy and co, to how Buggy’s friends all stating that they will follow Crocodile (not Mihawk).

Buggy lucking himself into his current position does not change the fact that before Buggy was even in the picture, Crocodile and Mihawk—both of whom exude extreme I-am-king-and-serve-no-one vibes—considered each other and simultaneously decided that they want the other man to lead.

So why?

These two must have history.

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