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I will forever love the idea of Hunter having survivors guilt, especially after the death of flapjack.

There were hundreds of grimwalkers. And every single one of them have died, except Hunter. What makes Hunter so special that he gets to live but the others don’t? And just think about it, he was meant to die! Not just because it’s his fate as the golden guard, but also in Thanks to Them. Belos was supposed to yet again kill another grimwalker, but then flapjack sacrificed himself for Hunter to survive. Just think about the survivors guilt man. Hunter dying was always alluded to throughout the show, and when he actually does die, Flapjack saves him and dies instead. Imagine Hunter thinking that he should be the one that’s dead, not flapjack. It was his fate to die, it always was, just like all the other grimwalkers, and yet flapjack died instead.

It’s already bad enough of the guilt from being the only grimwalker to survive, but then to add to that someone else had to die for him to live.

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This probably isn’t intentional but ehh I’m a sucker for this type of thing.

Notice how when they fall Gus and Willow stumble and roll around.

While Hunter kinda positions himself in a way so that he can slide down the hill without much tumbling or any injury.

Yeah. I know this is probably just because he was the one holding them or whatever, but I love this trope of his. Him being more capable and experienced at things and knowing what to do in different situations. Having a high skill set from his training as the golden guard. Many times before it’s shown Hunter being more skillful at things like combat, agility, survival instincts, etc. So just let me have this :(

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Man, I just realized something. So the group is on the Titans skull right now, and the grimwalker graveyard is right below it. And with the collector being all mad now what if he starts destroying things and Hunter accidentally falls down there. He would then get to see all of those skeletons of past golden guards and maybe even his creation room. I’m sure the crew wants to torture him one last time for the finale so what better way than this! I just know they’re gonna make him suffer, they love to do it. 💀 💀

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I love the use of Luz’s and Hunter’s body language in this scene.

In this moment the two of them think that those witches were dropping dead. Luz looks around holding onto herself horrified because she has never seen something like this before. Whereas Hunter is just standing there looking into one direction without much reaction because he has already seen Belos kill many witches in the past.

Also the subtle difference in their facial expressions. Luz looks like she is disturbed and feels bad for that witch having to suffer. Whereas Hunter looks upset, like he’s used to seeing this by now but it’s still horrible each time.

That’s all. I just thought the difference of body language and facial expressions in this scene is neat. It’s good characterization. It shows how Hunter’s used to death, while Luz is not.

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Are people actually saying that Belos’ possession made Hunter buffer? Just…. No? That is literally so wrong? He literally always looked like that?

He’s not some scrawny little bitch bruhhh he’s literally drawn more bigger than the average teen male in the show.

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The Palismen following Hunter around like knowing they’re all grieving Flapjack but I’m also thinking about the fantheory that the palismen gravitate towards Hunter cuz they’re all made of the same wood hELP ME

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Actually, thanks for bringing this up because I kinda have a theory of my own from this.

Okay, so with Flapjack sacrificing himself he becomes a part of Hunter and gives him his magic, right? I have a theory that maybe before Belos left Hunters body, he also took his soul. Like he does with Palismen souls. Maybe he took it as some extra strength for him to continue on into the boiling isles. Now Hunter doesn’t have his own soul, so Flapjack gave him his soul so he can continue living. Hence the brown eyes! You know what they say, “The eyes are the window to your soul”. His magenta eyes were his own soul, and the brown eyes are flapjacks soul, hence the ability to do magic, and why the Palismen are following him around, they could still sense flapjacks presence.

Tldr: Hunter has flapjacks soul now but not his own.

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I have to say, out of all the other possessions from animated shows I’ve seen, I personally feel like Hunters possession is probably morally the worst. Even though his possession is the one that lasted the shortest out of the others, his possession has the most psychological torture. There are just so many different layers of “fucked up” to it, that just add up and make his possession one of the worst things that could happen to someone.

Firstly, he was possessed by someone that’s been using him and hurting him his whole life. It’s not just some random villain that he only just met, it’s his uncle, his parental figure, the person he used to love and look up to. Even though this person has physically, emotionally, and psychologically abused Hunter for his whole life, he still manipulated Hunter into believing that he was in the right, that he was an amazing person that did what was best for humanity. Hunter had to treat his own uncle as if he were a god, but then he was betrayed by that person he practically worshipped, to find out he was only a tool, a replacement, another clone from a long line of previous clones that Belos has made and killed whenever one betrayed him. His whole life was a lie. To find out he was never loved by Belos, and he was just a replacement, manipulated into doing horrible things for Belos. Hunter was then possessed by this person that was lying and using him his whole life.

Secondly, Belos has been controlling Hunter his whole life without even the use of possession. He made him stay in the castle most times, isolated him from other people, and made him go on dangerous missions on weekends as The Golden Guard. He was never allowed to do anything, he was never allowed to meet people or just be a kid, he just had to constantly train, and study, and go on missions. Belos controlled everything in his life, but he needed more. He literally went inside of Hunters body, and took control of it. Turned his own body against him, because to Belos it’s his. He created Hunter so he should have total control over Hunter. He’s not a person, he was just a failure, a “lost cause” until he realized he could still use him in some way. He owns him, so he’s going to use his body to his advantage.

Thirdly, Hunter was totally mentally present when Belos was controlling him. He wasn’t in a dream state, or taken out of his body, he was fully presently there to see everything happen. To see all the damage Belos is doing with his body.

Fourthly, we have seen in many ways how Belos’ curse has personally affected Hunter. Hunter has had to deal with Belos’ curse for the majority of his life, he had to experience Belos’ outbursts, his extreme violence, and even had to be attacked by Belos’ curse. Belos made him kill innocent Palismen to help with his addiction. He burdened Hunter with the weight of his curse. We can see that Hunter seems to be afraid of the curse as well. When Belos turns into his beast form, all Hunter can do is look away as if he was afraid. We have also seen Belos use this curse to threaten Hunter, like with shooting a muddy spike towards his face. I think it’s safe to assume that this curse Belos suffers has physically hurt Hunter many times, rather it be in Belos’ normal form, or his beast form.

So with all that said, with Hunter terrified of Belos’ curse, imagine being possessed by Belos and having to feel and see your own body change into that curse. He had to feel his bones and arms break and rearrange into something horrid, see his own body turn into something unrecognizable. This curse he’s been so afraid of, now he has, and he has to see himself attack and hurt the people he cares about, in the same ways Belos has attacked him in the past. He just has to see all of this happen, he’s practically paralyzed in this moment, he can’t say or do anything, he just has to accept what is happening. To see your body covered in this green goo, the same goo your uncle has, to have his curse. To feel the pain of the curse and hurting your friends, to see yourself as some horrifying creature, to be someone you’re not. You’ve completely changed and morphed into the very thing that’s been haunting you for years.

Fifthly, he was forced to mutilate his closest friend Flapjack. He had to see his own body, totally out of control, severely injure his best friend, and totally disable him, where he can barely fly and he’s bleeding out. The guilt he must hold from that. The image of Flapjacks body destroyed in his very own hand, burned in his retina. Even if it didn’t fully kill him, the injuries later would’ve. He was bleeding out, and practically on the way to death. But to save Hunters life, Flapjack used what was left of his life to save Hunters. Flapjack would’ve died either way, but he chose to save Hunters life before he died. Hunters now gonna have to live with that, basically killing his best friend with his very own hands, and there was no way to save him.

Sixly… six of all(?), there is just gonna be a whole new level of identity crisis after this possession. Belos continues to call Hunter and refer to him as Caleb, the very person he’s a clone of. And what makes it worse is that now he looks even more like Caleb then he ever did. His eyes are brown like Caleb’s, and his hair has grown the same length as Caleb’s. When he looks in the mirror he’s only going to see Caleb.

Seventhly, the only way for him to stop the possession was literally having to kill himself. He drowned himself as an attempt to kill Belos. He didn’t care if that would kill him as well. Killing Belos was more important than his own life. Drowning is a horrible way to die. The need to breathe but you can’t, when you gasp for air all you feel is the water, burning your lungs. The terrifying feeling of drowning, where no matter how much you need to breathe you won’t find any air. This was the only way Belos was going to stop possessing Hunter. Hunter literally died in this moment, and what makes it worse is that Belos actually could’ve still possessed him since he can still possess dead creatures. But he chose not to. He got what he wanted, Flapjack and Hunter were dead. That’s why he leaves his body. It was time to move on back to his mission in the boiling isles. So that makes his death in vain as well, he drowned himself to kill Belos, but Belos got away anyways.

Lastly, the physical pain of the curse on Hunters skin. When Belos possessed other creatures, we can see that the possession was eating away the body until it was nothing but bones. That’s what he was doing to Hunters body. The curse was eating away the flesh on his skin, hence why there is so much scarring after the possession. If the possession lasted longer, Belos would’ve completely eaten away Hunters body. Imagine how painful that must’ve been, to be fully conscious while your skins getting eaten away. Not to mention every time he sees himself in the mirror he looks almost unrecognizable. He looks so scarred and messed up, and it will just be a constant reminder of what Belos did that day. Belos has beaten and practically tortured Hunter his whole life, so this possession is just the cherry on top of all of this physical pain he has caused him.

Overall, Belos possessing Hunter is one of the most fucked up things I’ve seen in a show, and that’s saying a lot. I don’t know how Hunters going to cope with this, it’s really too much for anyone.

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I’ve realized Hunter is literally the only major character where we haven’t seen a flashback/ younger version of.

Hell, we’ve even seen younger versions of some non-major characters before him.

I wonder if that’ll change soon, or will we just never see him as a little kid? (oh god please don’t be him as a pile of bones as his only flashback) But.. Y’know I kinda like that we haven’t seen a younger version of him yet though. It keeps it kinda mysterious.

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Something really useful that could happen from Belos possessing Hunter is Hunter getting Belos’ memories.

I even have some evidence that may prove this. When Belos is possessing Hunter and is talking to Luz, he sees an opportunity when the rest of the group shows up. He makes a smug look and reveals to the group that Luz helped him. How could he possibly know to do that. How could he know that the others didn’t know, how could he know that Luz didn’t want them to know. The only one who knew all that was Hunter. Yeah, it could’ve just been Belos being full of himself, but I feel like his actions normally have a reason. And since he seems to know something that only Hunter should know, there’s a possibility that Belos got Hunters memories, and so that could mean Hunter got Belos’ memories as well. (It makes sense considering they shared a mind)

Now why would it be useful? Well Belos knows the most about The Collector and how they work. Belos is also the only one who knows what magic is keeping himself alive and making him invulnerable to attacks. But if Hunter got Belos’ memories, he could then find out more information about the collector and how to approach them, and he could find out how they can defeat Belos for good. He can even find out more about the full backstory of the whittebane brothers. This will then make Hunters possession meaningful and important to the main story. To make it a key reason into defeating The Collector and Belos that would make the possession very necessary, and even thematically appropriate for the story. Belos’ own actions yet again lead him to his downfall. Everything that happens in a story needs to have a reason, and this could be a possible reason for the possession.

But hey this is just a little theory of mine that most likely isn’t even true whatsoever.

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Just imagine the pain Hunter had to feel from his body turning and morphing into muddy goo. The readjusting and breaking of bones and limbs from Belos’ curse. The same curse that traumatized Hunter of Belos’ cursed form. The same curse Belos has used to physically abuse him. The same curse that made Hunter fear wild magic.

He sees himself morphing into something unrecognizable, hurting the people he cares about with no control over his actions. Seeing himself become his abuser.

Holy shit this is so fucked up

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I like how you can tell that Hunter is the only one of them that hasn’t cried. Since he doesn’t have any tear stains under his eyes, unlike the rest. But it does look like he has small tears in his eyes.

I just really like this character detail. He doesn’t let him self grieve or get too emotional, especially if there is still work to be done. Hell, his facial expression literally looks like he’s holding back tears. It’s not like he just saw his only family member be brutally murdered into nothing but his remains, and then having to walk through his uncles remains. But y’know, it’s whatever. He’s a soldier, he’s probably seen worse. Gotta keep it together.

But yeah. I kinda like that’s he doesn’t cry so easily. Gives his character a bit more depth considering his upbringing. And it feels more realistic.

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I just realized the possibility of Hunter experiencing some type of survivor guilt. Like just think about it. Belos has made tons of Grimwalkers, and yet every single one of them has died. Belos has killed every single one. Hunter would probably think why did he survive? What makes him so special? When multiple grimwalkers couldn’t live, why did he? What did he possibly do that they didn’t? He’s no different than the rest of them, so shouldn’t he be dead as well? He has lived the same experiences as them, but why does he get to be the only one to live? Why did he deserve to live but not them? He was going to die by Belos, just like them, but why didn’t he?

Man, that would actually be so interesting to consider. Probably won’t happen in the show though considering the cut season and limited time. But I still think that would’ve been an interesting concept.

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