im gonna be honest i think the "adrien being a sentimonster was randomly thrown in season 4 with no planning on the writers' part" theory is really funny. like the writers of this show are just so bad at their job and so stupid that they tripped and fell in season 1 episode mr pigeon and accidentally spilled "a strange relationship to feathers" all over adrien by accident. they stubbed their toe on the coffee table and accidentally set up a mystery surrounding emilie's relationship to a feathery miraculous in season 1 volpina before we even knew what its powers were. then they spilled coffee all over their favorite shirts and at the same time spilled more white feathers around adrien in season 2 episode gorizilla. while writing the same episode someone had a really nasty sneeze and got boogers all over the script that said "use the imagery of two twin rings intertwined as the opener for the film of adrien's dead mother". they forgot to look both ways before crossing the street while writing the season 2 finale and were struck by a truck labeled "the peacock miraculous gives life" and then by a second truck with the license plate "it does so using white feathers identical to the white feathers that surround adrien in his ads" at the same time. they plummeted down an open manhole and hit the ground with a loud whack that sounded like "sentimonsters like bugette are just as real as any human..... and isn't bugette so...... perfect?" in season 3. on their way to the hospital they slipped on ice that had frozen in such a way to perfectly resemble the sentence "the word 'perfect' is consistently used throughout the series and by the creator ominously to denote how characters like adrien and kagami are 'different from everyone else', ever since season 1 episode simon says". during season 3 someone on the team got food poisoning and when they threw up felix came out instead and started another whacky series of comedic errors. the answer to the mystery of "how and why did emilie die? what life did adrien's loving mother create that she was willing to die for?" was originally gonna be "idk maybe she just exploded or somehting" probably, but then there was a really painful rock in one of the writers' shoes while walking to work that put them in a mood so bad that they forgot their original plan and instead made some bullshit up that somehow ended up being something that made sense with what we knew and put all the puzzle pieces together and actually made the show even more interesting and impactful on a rewatch because it put a lot of shots that at the time seemed random into a new and logical perspective as clear foreshadowing. it's actually impressive how stupid these silly clown writers are that they put strangely specific things so consistently throughout the entire series that resembled foreshadowing while never actually having intended it a single time! like........... really.......... really impressive............... i think..............

this moment truly is so devastating because neither of them wants to think that Felix, Adrien's cousin, could've betrayed them like that, that he could've known who shadowmoth was and decided to accomplish an elaborate plan to steal all the miraculous from ladybug and give them to him. you can see that they WANT to believe he didn't consciously decide to do that but they're also not convinced of that themselves. but there's still a big gap between being a little shit and dealing with a domestic terrorist and putting everyone's life in danger so there must be an explanation

Okay but the irony here is that Felix is a victim of Monarch!

As a senti he's been forced to do everything against his will, had his very existence threatened, been forced to outwit a terrorist and villain simply for the crime of existing.

If there is this massive conspiracy with all these sentikids, then Felix is a victim of Garbage's too.

Yes they want to believe him, and I think it's meant to show us the audience that there is still a reason to root for that little shit, because like Ping says being a little shit is not the same as being a terrorist.

In fact that whole episode was just one big "stay tuned because all is not as it seems" especially with regards to Felix. There hasn't been a single indication that he's a bad guy. He's just a sentibeing forced against a corner trying to live his life, a victim of Garbagemoth just like everyone else.

hi yes im thinking about how felix was created to excel at everything and all things almost with this single minded idea of perfection to the point where this kid is 14 and missed like all the kid things...

and now he might actually finally have the ability to be and do what he wants to??? we talk about adrien rebelling but maybe he's not the only one who wants to find their own way

(also yes this is me putting in my prediction that we're gonna see punk rebellious felix)

Oh wow, it's almost like Felix has been associated with balls since the beginning

It's almost like he was shown to be uncannily good at meeting his targets

And his aim is calculated and precise

And that he had never failed to touch his target

Except once

EXACTLY, you get it, Selkie you're so big brained

And guess what, the same episode where Felix outsmarted Gabriel and found his identity is also the same episode where every other character in the show had pinned Adrien as the maiden in the tower, who needed to be saved, which was right, but they didn't have the entire story, because Adrien is the princess who deserves to be saved, but also the knight who saves others.

In fact, Marinette brought it up in Risk again, how Adrien needed a knight to save him (little does she know she had already done more than enough by hearing out Adrien when he opened up to her, she was his knight in the dodgeball dungeon jeksolal)

Adrien keeps on getting underestimated, by everyone, his father, his cousin, (but Ladybug in a non-malicious way OVERestimated him because she believed he was that invulnerable and resilient and incapable of breaking down) and he's kept on proving them wrong in small and big ways that have gone unnoticed. Gabriel has no idea his son declared that he has no intention of becoming cold and withered like him. Felix has no idea his cousin caught on to his plan before anyone else did. And most of all Adrien, after an entire season believing that he was good for nothing, proved himself wrong when he supported Marinette, Ladybug, Nino and Alya in several episodes by being their knight, all while still being trapped in his father’s tower. He was literally the last one standing in the end.

Marinette unlocked her full potential as a guardian and hero this season, and her failure doesn't erase it one bit. I believe the same is going to happen to Adrien in season 5, and the key to him unlocking his full potential is Felix himself.

Felix dosen't see to think much of Adrien.

This is always a mistake.

It does make one wonder how long Adrien has felt the need to wear a mask around Felix. And why.

(And that's really, really sad.)

Pt 1. Playtime through the years

Pt 2. 👁👁 idk this came to mind and I wanted to sketch it out

Adrien: My father is HAWKMOTH?! What else is he hiding from me?!

Felix:

i’m not manifesting i’m just speculating i’m not manifesting i’m just speculating

I actually disagree with this. It seems very out of character for Felix who has worked so hard to get his independence and complete freedom to then give back the only thing that still has power to control him. Especially because eventually Felix will return and then that will give Gabriel far too much power over him.

I think it's more likely that the twin rings are both Adrien's amok, and that Felix's amok is this ring he was given by his father

He was even pictured with this ring AND the peacock at the end of the episode

I think the original reason why Felix took the ring from Gabe was to have this leverage and eventually get to the bottom of things. And that eventually Felix will come back and help the heroes defeat Gabe ones and for all.

I'm sorry but just because sentibeings have the capacity to be human does not mean that all sentibeings are and should be treated as human and I'm failing to see who or what said anything even like that

*please correct me if i'm wrong in anything i say here:*

Sentibeings can be literally anything

They can be living beings like Sentibug, Sentibubler and Feast I think (and Felix)

But they can also be non living things like Reflektdoll, Guiltrip, Kuro Neko and Strike Back (although I'm not too sure about the last two)

Not every sentimonster is a human being

It's like comparing apples and oranges

You can't tell me that Sentibug and Guiltrip are the same thing and need to be treated the same way

(again, please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong)

Also I would like to add that when I say "sentibeings shouldn't be treated as human beings" I don't mean "sentibeings shouldn't be treated with kindness"

For example) Do you treat your dog like a human being? No of course not, you treat it as a dog and you still show love and kindness to it

We know that sentibeings can be nonliving -- Optigami was a hard drive, essentially. And even if something is living, that doesn't necessarily mean it has feelings or feels pain. It's maybe a hard thing to confront but not all life is created equal, and you're absolutely correct in that you wouldn't treat two completely different beings the same way simply on basis of them being alive. I call my dog a stinky girl and physically restrain her with a leash because she's a dog and that's an appropriate way to treat her given what she is.

She's still alive, and I'm not trying to deny that. But I don't treat her the way I'd treat a human.

Also, I'd like to point out that every single human sentibeing has been killed by either Mayura or Shadow Moth, no one else. Sentibug, Sentialec, Sentinino, Sentigabriel -- every one of them was killed by being snapped out of existence by the Peacock holder. The only people who have difficulties treating human sentis as human are the villains, who we're supposed to dislike.

Weaving ML S4 plot threads together in Strike Back: Senti Lives Matter

One of the major points of contention over the Sentimonster Adrien theory has been how flippantly Sentis have been destroyed, even post-”Ladybug”. Granted, the heroes have never been the ones destroying sentihumans, but they have no qualms so long as they aren’t human, and they haven’t really mourned or properly acknowledged the tragedy of the destruction of any Senti except for Sentibug.

Judging by this scene, that may be intentional. As soon as Ladybug says, rather smugly, that she was going to send the sentimonsters somewhere they couldn’t hurt anyone again, Felix appears to have reservations, looking sad and giving a small… I dunno, sigh? The following scene, with him staying back and watching Strike Backs’ destruction, seals it - he’s upset about their destruction. 

I think this moment is going to be brought up again in the future, with Felix confronting Ladybug about how she thinks of sentimonsters, how little she considers them to be living beings - or at least, how little she seems to follow through on that belief. It’s likely going to be a wake up call not only for Ladybug, but for the rest of the heroes as well. 

Senti lives not mattering much to the heroes so far, judging by this scene, is probably an intentional flaw that they’ll be confronted about and work through, rather than a writing error.

This was the funniest part of the entire episode sdjkfhdsk

THEY REALLY ARE LIKE SIBLINGS

Theory: The Black Cat miraculous was made to counter the Peacock

So a while back I reblogged this post (which was deleted by op so idk if they want me to tag but I can remove the link if they want)

But in that post, they talked about how it was possible each miraculous had a counter, in case the holder became evil. So like, the Ladybug is the counter to the Butterfly and probably has its own counter as well.

But that got me thinking, as I mentioned before in that post, that the counter for the Peacock could very well be the Black Cat, but the heroes might not even know it.

Since the evil Peacock is meant to create puppets, the Black Cat could have a special power up to literally cut the strings that tie a senti to its holder.

Meaning the Black Cat would literally be the perfect miraculous for Adrien. It fits with why he wasn't as good as the others when he tries to be Mister Bug or Aspik, because he was made for the Black Cat, unlike how Alya and Marinette were both shown to wield other miraculouses successfully.

It could be the narrative's way of showing us that for Adrien, he can only be one, he can only be the Black Cat.

Because the Black Cat is what will ultimately sever his ties to the Peacock, and grant his freedom once and fur all.

WELL THEN

This feels like a good time to bring up how a few weeks ago I was rewatching Queen Banana and I was thinking how this scene

Isn't foreshadowing a conflict for ladynoir and isn't just a reference to Chloe and Zoe...

It's foreshadowing Felix and Adrien

The real question is which is which, because currently both could be take either role...

Adrian's Wall, part 1/? > Part 2

Pre-reveal, they discovered Hawkmoth identity and that's it, Sentimonster Adrien ""AU"".

Soooo, how is it going, Miracolous fandom? ∠( ᐛ 」∠)＿

Sometimes ago I made the mistake of watching ML ironically, and now I'm down the tunnel of crazy theories and angsty stuff! Weeee

adrien’s parents literally frankensteined him. he was born on a stormy night and they yelled “IT’S ALIIIIIVE! IT’S ALIVE” as they held him up to the sky

anyway the Adrien Ella Enchanted agenda is so real

i Love that she looks like sailor moon so much!

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