“I’ve done a lot of reading and research about religion, because it’s something that fascinates me. What fascinates me is the compulsion or need for many to believe in this nonsense.
A great deal of us seem to have this need to fall back on this crutch of faith and belief. People say to me “Well, it’s all a matter of faith. You don’t need proof.”
Well, faith for me in that sense becomes a synonym for believing a lie and that’s no explanation at all.“
– Steven Wilson
you people have no curiosity, no humility… you think about it, read about it for x amount of time and hard-headedly decide that your personal human logic-only-based interpretation is sufficient to deny everything. I’m not going to deny that religion and spirituality were extremely hijacked over the years, but I am saying y’all are no different than those who just go to the church and take everything literally. You just take the literal watered down version and course, finding yourselves so intelligent, reject that… and then pitch your tent there and are done with the whole topic. That’s totally fine, but extremely egotistical, just so at least somebody points it out once in your lifetime. You just make society your new religious cult leader (if not all of society, the science industry)… you just enter a new religion… unless you decide contemplate things deeper as an individual.
This is incoherent rambling. So many words, nothing of any consequential meaning.
Some part of these religions have to be literally true, otherwise the gods and the saviors depicted inside are just as metaphorical. You scold us about taking things literally, but it is exactly your attitude, your dismissal that has made the religions themselves no better than mere metaphor, fable and fairytale. This isn’t our doing. It’s yours. We’ve just recognized it.
You are the one who has no curiosity. You. You have already denigrated human knowledge - the same knowledge that you rely upon to post your ignorant rants online - in preference to vague pseudo-profound word salad, where you make shallow claims of depth and ignorant claims to insight.
All of which is underpinned by a No True Scotsman fallacy, wherein you claim to hold or have access to wisdom that neither we nor the “hijacked” can. If you had anything worthwhile - and not eminently laughable - to offer, you would not only be able to explain how to reliably and repeatedly access that wisdom, that knowledge, you would want to. There’s a Nobel Peace Prize with your name on it just waiting for you to teach the world your totally true and not-at-all-made-up stuff, and the world to go “hey, yeah, you’re totally right.” Whenever you’re ready.
Human people are actually wanting to figure things out, and are actively working on them, diligently, carefully. And you shit on them and everything they’re working towards, not to mention everything humans have already achieved, simply because they prefer to figure out useful, accurate answers, rather than vague “spiritual” nonsense that only serves to make yourself feel good about your own fears of death and your own inconsequentiality.
It’s amazingly hypocritical that you ramble so nonsensically, having done more to disassemble religion than anyone else, and then scold us about not being “deep” enough when you don’t even have the slightest concept of the implications of your own rant. You’ve already made gods and saviors metaphorical, and now you want to pretend that noticing this is lacking depth?
We are not the ones making assertions based on nothing more than mere “faith.” If you had any legitimate basis for your belief, you wouldn’t need to resort to the surrender of mere faith, would you? So your ultimate attempt at an insult can be summarized as “well, you’re just as bad as we are, so there!” Way to shit in your own bed. It takes no faith, no “hard headedness” to reject nonsensical fables. It takes intellectual integrity. It takes caring about truth more than a desperate need for cozy, infantilizing lies.
Calling that a “religion” makes religion completely pathetic and inconsequential. Was this your intentional objective, or did you just not think any of this through?
Thank you for being Exhibit A and proving the meme exactly. A need to believe that far outstrips the justification for that claim, and exceeds the explanatory power of that assertion, based on no proof, and held defiantly with the unfalsifiable blight of empty “faith.”