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Religion is a Mental Illness

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Tribeless. Problematic. Triggering. Faith is a cognitive sickness.
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“I’ve done a lot of reading and research about religion, because it’s something that fascinates me. What fascinates me is the compulsion or need for many to believe in this nonsense.
A great deal of us seem to have this need to fall back on this crutch of faith and belief. People say to me “Well, it’s all a matter of faith. You don’t need proof.”
Well, faith for me in that sense becomes a synonym for believing a lie and that’s no explanation at all.“
– Steven Wilson

you people have no curiosity, no humility… you think about it, read about it for x amount of time and hard-headedly decide that your personal human logic-only-based interpretation is sufficient to deny everything. I’m not going to deny that religion and spirituality were extremely hijacked over the years, but I am saying y’all are no different than those who just go to the church and take everything literally. You just take the literal watered down version and course, finding yourselves so intelligent, reject that… and then pitch your tent there and are done with the whole topic. That’s totally fine, but extremely egotistical, just so at least somebody points it out once in your lifetime. You just make society your new religious cult leader (if not all of society, the science industry)… you just enter a new religion… unless you decide contemplate things deeper as an individual.

This is incoherent rambling. So many words, nothing of any consequential meaning.

Some part of these religions have to be literally true, otherwise the gods and the saviors depicted inside are just as metaphorical. You scold us about taking things literally, but it is exactly your attitude, your dismissal that has made the religions themselves no better than mere metaphor, fable and fairytale. This isn’t our doing. It’s yours. We’ve just recognized it.

You are the one who has no curiosity. You. You have already denigrated human knowledge - the same knowledge that you rely upon to post your ignorant rants online -  in preference to vague pseudo-profound word salad, where you make shallow claims of depth and ignorant claims to insight.

All of which is underpinned by a No True Scotsman fallacy, wherein you claim to hold or have access to wisdom that neither we nor the “hijacked” can. If you had anything worthwhile - and not eminently laughable - to offer, you would not only be able to explain how to reliably and repeatedly access that wisdom, that knowledge, you would want to. There’s a Nobel Peace Prize with your name on it just waiting for you to teach the world your totally true and not-at-all-made-up stuff, and the world to go “hey, yeah, you’re totally right.” Whenever you’re ready.

Human people are actually wanting to figure things out, and are actively working on them, diligently, carefully. And you shit on them and everything they’re working towards, not to mention everything humans have already achieved, simply because they prefer to figure out useful, accurate answers, rather than vague “spiritual” nonsense that only serves to make yourself feel good about your own fears of death and your own inconsequentiality.

It’s amazingly hypocritical that you ramble so nonsensically, having done more to disassemble religion than anyone else, and then scold us about not being “deep” enough when you don’t even have the slightest concept of the implications of your own rant. You’ve already made gods and saviors metaphorical, and now you want to pretend that noticing this is lacking depth?

We are not the ones making assertions based on nothing more than mere “faith.” If you had any legitimate basis for your belief, you wouldn’t need to resort to the surrender of mere faith, would you?  So your ultimate attempt at an insult can be summarized as “well, you’re just as bad as we are, so there!” Way to shit in your own bed. It takes no faith, no “hard headedness” to reject nonsensical fables. It takes intellectual integrity. It takes caring about truth more than a desperate need for cozy, infantilizing lies.

Calling that a “religion” makes religion completely pathetic and inconsequential. Was this your intentional objective, or did you just not think any of this through?

Thank you for being Exhibit A and proving the meme exactly. A need to believe that far outstrips the justification for that claim, and exceeds the explanatory power of that assertion, based on no proof, and held defiantly with the unfalsifiable blight of empty “faith.”

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What do you think of this?

And what are the odds that one of them will have a breakdown and start on a rampage killing? Not that I want them to do that but it seems to be their MO especially when they have access to guns. I hope nothing happens and someone bans this insanity before it's too late.

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The Rod of Iron Ministries, a gun-obsessed religious group, is now reported to have bought a property in Tennessee that will be made into a so-called “training center” for its members.
The Pennsylvania-based church has sporadically appeared in headlines in recent years, including in a 2018 NPR piece highlighting an “armed ceremony” that featured everything from bullet-adorned crowns to AR-15-style rifles being utilized as interpretations of the Holy Bible’s “rod of iron” mention.
A new report from Vice News, out Tuesday, says the newly acquired 130-acre property in Tennessee marks the latest sign that the group is pushing for expansion. Pastor Hyung Jin Sean Moon, the son of the late Rev. Sun Myung Moon, is known for launching an offshoot of the Unification Church following his father’s death. Founded by his father, the Unification Church was known for its implementation of mass wedding ceremonies, a trait that also appears in the Rod of Iron Ministries world albeit with guns.
The original congregation has been met with years of abuse allegations, many of which centered around the original “spiritual retreat” that could soon be emulated in Tennessee. Mentioned in a recent sermon from Moon were plans for the Tennessee site—which Vice News reported was sold for $460,000—to include schools and training centers, as well as separate living cabins for men and women.
The “core values” cited by the Rod of Iron Ministries group on an official website include—among other things—“defending our family, neighbor, and God’s Kingdom through the biblical word of God and self-defense culture” and “mind-body unity through self-defense training.”

A cult centered around the fetishization and veneration of semi-automatic weapons as totems for their god. What could possibly go wrong?

The Unification Church, itself already a cult, is even disavowing association with this spin-off.

A spokesperson for the main Unification Church congregation is quoted in Tuesday’s Tess Owen report as saying the Rod of Iron sect doesn’t “represent the legacy of the late Rev. Sun Myung Moon.”

When a notorious cult is saying "woah, we're not with them," you know it can't possibly be good.

The likelihood of something going terribly wrong? 100%. I mean, "disaster waiting to happen" seems like such an insufficient understatement here.

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All of that said, I don't agree with banning it. Freedom of belief, freedom of religion, freedom from religion means that they can believe whatever stupid thing they like, and they're allowed to.

If someone is entitled to believe that their wooden mixing spoon is their Harry Potter/Hogwarts magic wand, we can't say that someone else can't believe that their rifle is their god's "rod of iron".

You can't ban a belief. Firstly, it doesn't work. Which means that it will just go underground and become more attractive to some types of people as "forbidden knowledge." It's better if it remains in the open where people can openly scrutinize, criticize and mock it.

Secondly, it's not illegal to be an idiot or to think stupid things are true.

In order to maintain our freedom of belief, freedom from religion and ensure we do not have others impose their beliefs on us, we must allow them their beliefs, no matter how stupid.

What they do about/with those beliefs, what actions they take, is what we certainly can say something about.

We can insist that they conduct their cult/religion in a manner that is legal. That their guns are legal and registered, people can leave freely if they choose, both adults and children are safe, they are not abused or coerced into sex, they're not planning to overthrow the government, etc, etc.

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As I say, I think it's virtually inevitable that something will go badly here.

But as long as it resides within the boundaries of freedom of belief/religion and they're adhering to the law, there's not much that can or should be done about it.

It's not a perfect system, but it's the best we've got. Just maybe steer clear of that part of Tennessee. Or, you know, the whole state.

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BTW,. for reference:

I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Basically, it says that god will give the faithful dominion over the lend and the heathens, who are to be killed and destroyed with the "rod of iron."

Nothing foreboding about that, whatsoever.

Meanwhile...

And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
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I’m completely all out of empathy for these people. Apparently, this is just what they want. They want to die pointless, avoidable, painful, good Xtian deaths - both themselves and their kids. They don’t value their own lives, they don’t value the lives of their children, everything’s a conspiracy, and they’re ready to see Jesus. What could anyone possibly say to convince them that hasn’t been said a thousand times already?

This is what they want.

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You didn’t actually expect a rational… Logical argument from someone that still has an invisible friend did you?

Nope. But that wasn't really for that individual's benefit anyway. It was for the benefit of any outside observers. And also for the sake of not letting unsubstantiated nonsense go unchallenged, a luxury religions have enjoyed - and expected - for too long. Theists cannot be changed by other people, only by themselves and their own honesty - a desire to genuinely understand their beliefs and to believe things that are demonstrably true.

Public spectacles like that are more for others. For any atheists who may be unsure how to rebut those sorts of nonsensical rants; for theists who may already be honestly questioning their beliefs, to maybe reassess some of the assumptions or irrational thought processes wrapped around those beliefs; and maybe, sometimes, for a theist to reconsider how they address the burden of proof their claim attracts - a perfectly valid approach is to enjoy the luxury of not having to explain yourself by not making any claim at all.

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Hi! I have a babysitter (that’s mostly for my little brother) and she is very christian. She plays christian music in the car, plays scriptures and christian lectures, and talks about god and religion constantly. I have no problem with this, I respect others opinions even if I disagree strongly with them. I don’t want it be disrespectful or lose her friendship but I would like her to stop trying to push her religion on me. I don’t know how to bring it up or ask her to stop. Help?

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What a strange person. When a babysitter comes over, they’re supposed to put on movies and TV shows and music that the kids would enjoy, to keep them entertained. It’s never about the babysitter themselves. They’re only there because a responsible human needs to be present. How selfish to make fun time for the kids all about her superstitions.

You might start with simply suggesting you watch or listen to something else, or keep changing the subject and talking about something more your speed.

If that doesn’t work, you might need to be more direct and forceful. If she’s actually your friend, she will understand and agree. You are not unreasonable for expecting to be able to have your own beliefs, and not have hers rammed down your throat. People are free to block or ignore my posts - I don’t come into their houses while they’re eating dinner and point out all the problems in the bible or with their illogical thought process.

If she refuses, I would take it up with your parents (or whoever is in charge of hiring/paying her). It’s no more acceptable for her to be proselytizing to you than if you were to go to her 3 year old brother and tell him that there’s no Santa (or god). But also, she’s not actually doing her job. If you’re uncomfortable about being direct with her first, then maybe just go straight to your parents.

If the friendship ends, it’s because she ended it, because she prioritized preaching over her friendship with you, not because you ended it. No different or more rational than ending your friendship because you don’t want to watch another movie where Tom Cruise spends the whole thing running around with his weird running style, when she does. And it probably indicates she was not really your friend in the first place.

She’s out of bounds. And can more than likely be easily replaced.

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I can honestly say I have no objections to this.

#DarwinAwards

The funniest thing is when atheist blogs take a joke post and make it serious.

It’s funnier when theists try to make stupid apologetic excuses for the irrationality of the people in their own camp. You know, exactly like the ones you make for the horrors in your favorite book. This one seems to be a real-world implementation of “YOUR TAKING IT OUT OF CONTEXT!1!”.

Gee, I wonder what happens when I Google-search “facebook religious crazies”? Huh. Who’da thunk? I bet they’re all “jokes,” right?

We have all seen them. And so have you.

Poor, unconvincing attempt at deflection. F-

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