James Randi (1928-2020).
Sound, demonstrable information gets in the way of a narrative.
Inconvenient for people trying to sell you a story, handy for people who care about truth.
“Facts are only offensive to those who have taken refuge in fantasy.”
-- Michael Sherlock
i get being atheist and having that point of view and while i definitely respect that, i don't think calling all religion inherently evil or a mental illness is... productive. As a jew i use religion as a coping mechanism to escape existential horror, a way to connect me to other people, and a means to explore the meaning of existence. Personally i think you should respect other people if you want to be respected, but hey, maybe thats just my mental illness talking idk
i don’t think calling all religion inherently evil or a mental illness is… productive
As a jew i use religion as a coping mechanism to escape existential horror
I think you just answered your own question. Do you know what a “coping mechanism” is?
By your own admission, you don’t even believe in it because it’s “true,” you follow it because you can’t think of another answer or another way to stop being anxious and scared about the fact you won the cosmic lottery and, due to a long reproductive lineage, you get to exist for something in the order of 80-ish years, in an indifferent universe.
Why aren’t you confronting and addressing that fear, rather than masking it with superstitions and myths?
i think you should respect other people if you want to be respected
I respect people. I respect your right to have those beliefs. And I expect you to respect my right to have my non-belief. And express it, just as you express yours.
I don’t respect unsubstantiated bronze-age superstitions (or any other silly magical claims) that are beneath the modern intelligence, morality and empathy of the human race. I think you need to learn the difference. If you want your belief respected, show that it deserves respect by demonstrating that it is actually “true.”
Help is available. You don’t have to live with self-medicated coping mechanisms (your words) if you’re experiencing distress and anxiety over the unreasonable expectation that you should be able to mentally figure out the entire universe and consciousness and existence, rather than living it. There are modern day, real-life professional people who can help give you better tools than aligning your emotional state with the oral myths of illiterate goat-herders who didn’t know bats aren’t birds and thought stars could fall to the Earth.
I cannot fathom why you wouldn’t seek modern advice and assistance from a trained, objective professional, with our greatest understanding, our best knowledge, rather than trying to subjectively infer the answers from the scribblings of long-dead people who thought the universe looked like this.
you do realise that not all religions are restrictive and controlling like Christianity is, right?
I think you’re missing the fundamental point.
It could be the most free-flowing, feel-good, flowery, hippy crap in the world. (Although that would probably horseshoe back around to “cult” territory, but whatev.)
But is it true? Can you actually prove it? Can you demonstrate that it’s well supported, and there are very good reasons to believe it?
Do you even care if your beliefs are true?
Do you believe things because you want to understand the world around you, to navigate and interact with it in a way that matches reality, or simply to medicate your feelings? Do you believe it because it’s our best, most accurate understanding of the world we live in, or because you would feel sad if it wasn’t true?
Believing things because it makes you feel better does not produce truth or accuracy. Believing things for “feelings” reasons is how we got the Holocaust. It’s how we get pretty much every bigotry ever.
If you can’t substantiate your supernatural claim, then it doesn’t even matter how not-”restrictive and controlling” it is - what you’re talking about is quite simply complete nonsense.
“If someone tells me that I’ve hurt their feelings, I say, ‘I’m still waiting to hear what your point is.’”
-- Christopher Hitchens
Feelings are the mechanism we used to determine the Earth is flat. Feelings are how we figured out that illness is caused by demons. Feelings are what told us that one race is inferior to another.
Feelings do not give us truth.
Almost like their beliefs are fragile and precarious, unconvincing even to themselves, will not stand up to examination, and can be undermined with the merest hint of a fact.
There are two kinds of people.
Your comfort level has no bearing on factualness.
No evidence, no fact.