Religion is a Mental Illness

Fundies in one post

i really hate it when shows try to shame christianity like this with tired stereotypes, and the “smart and sensible” one swoops in with Logic™️ because they’re crazy.

and people don’t “burn in hell because God loves them”. they burn in hell because they turned away from God, even when he loved them. 

and truths aren’t suddenly untruths because they’re delivered tactlessly.

It’s both amusing and sad how ready you are to dismiss the value of logic. All Sheldon did is ask a legitimate question. Mary and Xtianity made themselves look bad on their own, by accurately conveying the Xtian position, one which you confirmed...

... by saying the same thing Mary did, describing fear-based belief and compliance. it’s an actual threat: do this thing or violent, disproportionate, painful consequences will occur.

This episode was literally about a Hell House (”Heck House”), which exists entirely due to the use of fear as a recruiting tactic, as Sheldon says. This is not a “stereotype”. This is not something atheists invented, it’s an actual thing, invented by Xtians themselves.

Since both the facts and you agree on this, I can’t help wondering what your objection really is, other than Xtianity - and its malevolent god - looking bad as a result of its own doctrines and actions being described accurately. Or maybe it’s just that it’s bothersome for us to notice and point it out.

My not following your god-creature was unavoidable by the complete absence of any substantiation for its existence. The same way you don’t follow Odin.

It was your “all-loving” god’s choice that the repercussions for that were that it would set me on fire for eternity. Your god is to blame for choosing firstly that there are consequences (due to its insecurities, and its imperfect need for worship) and the nature of those consequences; lava and fire rather than, say, a room of nothing but beige, or a land of only moderately interesting things. I never agreed to those terms and conditions. It chose these consequences and that I should be subject to them, as well as the criteria for success or failure.

So, I choose none of the above. I choose not to play. What’s that? I can’t choose “none of the above”? Well, who came up with that? If I have no choice but to make a choice from only those two choices, then that’s the exact definition of blackmail. Your god created that (false) dichotomy. Your god created those conditions to force compliance with its will.

Well, I do choose none of the above. So, now what? It’s your god’s move. What’s its choice going to be? When I call its bluff, is there a default outcome? If so, you’ve just proven where the choice truly lies.

Correct. So, you do understand the atheist position then, given your god’s entire existence is not a proven, factual truth. Any more than Ra, Zeus or Quetzalcoatl are factual. And you’ll understand that your tactless assertions and weak apologetics don’t constitute truths either. Given that your god, heaven and hell aren’t facts, the entire threat of lava and fire is nothing but a pointless hypothetical anyway, and no reason to lose sleep at night.

Do you invest any effort or lose any sleep worrying about Mictlān or Gre’thor, or the reasonableness of being sent there because you “chose” to?

I wonder, due to your sincere and genuine concern for “truths”, whether you get this upset about science, such as evolution, being stereotyped in Xtian media, or whether you reserve your outrage for when your stupid superstitions make themselves look… stupid.