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The comments are exactly what you expect. Don't think, just transition!
And they say stuff like "you can always change your mind later" but leave out.. "and we'll shun and shame you like we do with all detransitioners
"And your once healthy body will have issues that you didn't have before you started the process." They never bring that up.
These replies are so good.
If you can't produce your own thoughts, Reddit will provide them for you.
"It'll happen anyways" is not a reason to stop trying to prevent it. Sexual assault is not just a Fact Of Reality we have to accept, and it says a LOT about the people who try to use that arguement.
hmmm. I wonder if they're using similar mental gymnastics & intellectual dishonesty when they assert that the US is currently in stage 8-9 of trans genocide....
when we say trans women are male and trans men are female, we are not saying they deserve to be discriminated against or that their dysphoria doesn’t matter. we are saying biology exists and matters in certain contexts.
when we say we won’t date trans women because we’re lesbians, we are not saying trans women don’t deserve to have happy, fulfilling relationships. we are saying that we are not romantically or sexually attracted to them and so that neither of us would have a happy, fulfilling relationship if we dated.
when we say we are gender critical, we are not saying everyone should be gender-conforming. we are saying the opposite, that men and women should be free to dress and act however they like instead of being forced into certain gender roles based on their sex.
when we say female-only safe spaces are important, we are not saying trans-only or mixed safe spaces aren’t also important. we are saying that based on our biology, women have certain shared experiences and face specific oppression that we deserve to be able to discuss among ourselves.
when we say one thing and you hear another, that isn’t our fault. when you’re ready to listen to what we actually believe or to have a genuine discussion, we’ll still be here.
They hear those things because that’s how they feel about women. They hear those dehumanising things because that’s how they see women.
It’s all projection.
as much some folks wanna think it so, my complicated relationship with my gender doesn’t make me trans.
John of Arc, Portrayed with Top Surgery Scars
Based on the 1903 Engraving by Albert Lynch
This piece was inspired by an anonymous message I received: “ The history of Joan of Arc’s life has a lot of trans themes that many people overlook—dressing and presenting as a man was very important to Joan, not just in order to lead the French military but also in Joan’s personal life. It ultimately led to Joan’s execution because Joan couldn’t agree to not wear men’s clothes in exchange for only a life sentence in prison. I think Joan of Arc’s story of bravery is really inspiring, and I think it’s amazing that there is a (possibly) trans saint, so that could be an idea for you to consider for your artwork 💕 ”
Thank you for the support and love, I love receiving messages like this from people who have personal/emotional connections with classical and religious art figures. I grew up Jewish so I don’t have much experience researching saints, I would have never known the complexity of Joan of Arc’s gender identity had I not received this message!
This is a fucking disgrace, you can’t trans dead people!
What is wrong with you? Like literally any woman who wears men’s clothes are men to you?
You are a fucking idiot.
There was no complexity of Joan’s “gender identity” because the concept of “gender identity” didn’t exist back then and she never once claimed to be anything but a woman.
This is so ignorant and stupid.
Alright! I looked further into it and my suspicions were correct, as they always seem to be!
“The history of Joan of Arc’s life has a lot of trans themes that many people overlook—dressing and presenting as a man was very important to Joan, not just in order to lead the French military but also in Joan’s personal life.”
Where is the source for Joan wearing men’s clothes in her personal life? Because I haven’t seen that anywhere. Are you assuming because, because she grew up a peasant farmer, that she didn’t wear the gowns of noble women that she wore men’s clothes? Like, where are you getting this from? History.com, Wikipedia, Biography.com, and the Ancient History Encyclopedia don’t mention it.
She pretended to be a man in the beginning so she could safely visit the king she was hoping to put back on the French throne. She claimed she had been having visions from Saints Michael, Margaret, and Catherine from ages 13 to 19, with the Saints proclaiming her savior of France and encouraging her to restore a French monarch to the throne (the future King Charles VII), as France was ruled by the English at the time.
She told his soldiers that she needed to see the king because “the Lord willed it” and that she’d rather stay home and spin with her mother. Spinning being a predominately female occupation.
She dressed as a man and cut her hair short to go see Charles. Do you know why? Because the armed escort of male soldiers told her to so she wouldn’t be attacked as they rode through Burgundian territory, who were pro-English and hostile to those loyal to the French crown. She didn’t tell Charles she was a man. Nobody besides the Burgundians they rode by thought she was a man.
She donned male armor to lead the troops given to her by Charles at the Battle of Orleans because they didn’t make armor for women. Not in the 13th century. And, according to sources, she wore a dress/”women’s clothes” when she wasn’t fighting, though she kept her hair short for practical reasons. She was captured by the English and their Burgundian supporters in 1430. They tried her for heresy.
“It ultimately led to Joan’s execution because Joan couldn’t agree to not wear men’s clothes in exchange for only a life sentence in prison.”
While in a military prison guarded by men, she reportedly kept men’s clothes on to protect herself from being raped by the guards, as the armor was difficult to remove. She was interrogated at least 12 times, and they threatened to torture and rape her. But she wouldn’t break.
She was later given a dress, but her dress was soon taken by the guards, and she had nothing else to wear but men’s clothes.
In May 1431, she burned at the stake, with an estimated 70 charges against her, including witchcraft, heresy, and cross-dressing.
“I think Joan of Arc’s story of bravery is really inspiring, and I think it’s amazing that there is a (possibly) trans saint”
This was a 19 year old peasant woman who convinced the future King of France to let her lead an army of trained and armed men against the invading English forces. This is a woman from humble origins who faced threats of torture and rape with courage. Who refused to break. Who believed in her cause.
She is brave, and her story is inspiring. But she isn’t “trans”, and how dare you insult her like that. She showed the valor and resilience in the face of war, violence, and patriarchy unique to women.
Where are the “trans themes” in her story? You have no valor or resilience, no courage or bravery. You can’t even look the cashier at McDonalds in the eye. Joan of Arc turned the tide of the Hundred Years War, restored a French king to the throne, all at age 19. And what have you done? Invented a “gender identity” from the sheltered comfort of your parents basement.
Joan of Arc is a heroine, and a role model to women and girls everywhere. Fuck you for trying to make her a man.
In case anyone hasn’t seen the original work, here it is.
It’s also perhaps worth noting that she was super religious, so she probably wouldn’t have been very fond of trans people anyway if she had even known about them, much less identified as a trans man herself.
There are genuine trans people to look up to in history. It is unbelievably foolish and misogynistic to non consensually force a trans identity on a dead woman.
https://twitter.com/sappholives83/status/1741034608706334858
Jesus fucking Christ.
Oh surely it can’t be that bad..
Oh.
They were kept in cages…given surgeries they never needed…then disposed of like trash. But hey so long as more people can get boners and feel ‘affirmed’ it must be worth it huh? The demand is rising after all.
It only gets worse the more you read...
I must’ve missed that part jfc
i firmly believe radfems are hated because they are women. i have seen men specifically go into detail on how much they hate trans people and specifically transwomen and the trans community goes all quiet. they are fucking cowards who know that they cant target men the way they target women
i mean, just look at the amount of hate the "transphobic" celebs get. who gets the most hate? jk rowling. they stalk her profile, she trends every time she tweets anything, her comments are always derailed by tras who hate her, they want to hear her every opinion so they can twist it into something to use against her. someone like, say, dave chappelle? theres some criticism, yes, but no is treating him half as bad as rowling.
Does anyone remember when Stephen Fry said, perhaps a month at best on Twitter after rowling’s essay was published on her site, that he didn’t understand all the fuss and that transgenderism seemed a bit silly and not well thought out? That he didn’t understand why people were attacking Rowling?
The most heated response I saw was “oh well don’t have heroes I guess” or “big admirer, hope you change your views soon!” The stakes are so different. They know they can’t push this shit with men; they are men.
And no matter - no fucking matter - what she tweets, the retweets are FULL of variants of “shut up bitch” and “I hope she dies”.
Trans activism is just the newest flag that misogynists have rallied under to hate women. Same shit. Different package.
When men with widespread influence in the anglophone world (ex. Ben shapiro, matt walsh -these are people who have more 'serious' professions than a children's author who stays socially relevant through twitter outrage. They have backing or are cofounders of relevant usamerican newspapers) they get well constructed and argumented video essays, hour long videos for a 5 minute prager-u (an institution founded by a man) ad, they get some harmless jokes thrown their way at most.
When women tweet out their controversial opinions on twitter, they get the most vile messages and no attempt of debunking the claims they continue saying are so ridiculous
Shapiro tweets out stupid shit all the time and I have yet to see anyone in the qrt or comments telling him half the shit people tell jkr
There's two more reasons why she is attacked so much more harshly:
1. The majority of trans people are nerds. They have a culture of being really into fandom. Harry Potter has a huuuge fandom. So when they learned that their childhood favorite doesn't subscribe to view that they deem extremely important, they feel betrayed. They're seething because they can't help but still adore HP even if she's a "bigot". That is why it's hard to compare her to Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro. Trans people had no reason to love Ben or Matt to begin with.
2. It's long been known even before all this gender mess that Rowling was progressive. It's deeply disturbing to trans advocates that someone that they would've otherwise considered an exemplary person wind up not sharing their view on something that they think is apparently one of the biggest issues on the planet. By stepping out of line on such an "important" issue, they must make an example out of her. What they've done to her was to send a message to scare any other fence-sitters into silence.
Found in a thread with other examples of straight men doing this but this one was the least explicit. Long story short, straight men trick FTMs desperate for validation, and if the FTM never actually discovers the rouse, their confidence is falsely bolstered and they go on to make dating life harder for actual gay men. Just a shitshow all around.
I'm unfortunately not surprised by this at all.
I find it absolutely baffling when trans people, and those who support their dogma, act like no one is using their lil cult to prey on people. As if no one is pretending to be something they're not in order to get something they want. As if men are incapable of pretending to be gay in order to fuck women.
I'm like, babes, YOU'RE pretending to be something you're not, in order to get something you want. Your whole religion is about pretending to be the opposite sex so that you can try to fuck people who aren't sexually attracted to you.
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Exactly.
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I have been saying men do this for a long time and no one would believe me. They said I am "fearmongering" and lying to convince trans men to not to gay clubs for my transphobic agenda. Or something. I tried explaining rape by deception, but when they also are attempting to do this to gay men, it's a hard thing to conceptualize.
Meanwhile, I was the one at those gay clubs ("queer bars") watching straight and bisexual men do specifically this behavior with zero shame. I have heard what they say with my own ears. I have heard what they ask bartenders at gay bars. I've had gay male friends laugh and tell me what straight dudes ask them about TIFs and where to go to find one to fuck, as if it's a big joke to these gay guys. I suspect they're just relieved they don't have to deal with these TIFs trying to bother so they'll gladly pimp them out to male predators. Sad but true. I have watched them prey on these women, and couldn't do anything about it.
I gave up on warning my TIF and female nonbinary friends (bc yeah these dudes love theythems too. It's all of the desperation but way less of the T effects) about these predators. They refused to listen bc it didn't fit with their delusions that they're not female. If they're not female, they can't be victims of these predators! If these sexual predators were going after transmen and nonbinaries bc they want pussy from a girl it completely contradicted their own delusions and mental illness. And they soooooo desperately wanted to be wanted by a gay man to validate themselves that they refused to consider these were not homosexual men.
As much as these predators are disgusting, these women are digging their own graves, sadly. They will not listen. At all. It keeps happening because they are so desperate for external validation from men. And because so many of them are often isolated, autistic, abused, or socially awkward/stunted, have no concept of gay life and sex except from their fantasies, porn, and fanfiction, and they have very little social and sexual experience at all, especially in assessing sex partners and setting boundaries in sexual situations. It makes them hugely vulnerable to this extra, sadistic predation by these men. But they refuse to admit any of this. And they want to continue their attempts at rape by deception as well. Vicious cycle.
I would also like to say, for all these women getting double mastectomies to avoid being sexualized and objectified as a female and thinking it somehow makes them immune to being perceived as a female/fuckhole, this shows it doesn't stop men. They do not care if you don't have tits. They don't care if you have hairy legs and short hair. They care that you are weak and vulnerable to their manipulation (obvious by your mental illness) and that they can shove their dicks in you, often in extremely degrading ways they can't get away with with other girls. You are still female to everyone. No one is buying this, even if they play along like they are. If you no longer have a vagina to plow into, well you're still not a man to them. That's not why they don't chase you. You're just a gross, disfigured and thus useless woman to them.
It is just so awful on every side of this.
Trans research and scientific consensus
- (2020) - Study of 139,829 students finds that in comparison to other students, transgender identity, especially non-binary identity, is associated more with perpetrating bullying than being bullied. Non-binary identity was most strongly associated with involvement in bullying, followed by [transgender] opposite sex identity and cisgender identity.
- (2023) 21 leading experts on pediatric gender medicine from 8 countries wrote a letter to Wall Street Journal expressing disagreement over how gender dysphoria in youth is treated, voicing concerns against things such as the affirmative model and research conducted outside of the US has found hormonal interventions for gender dysphoria to be without reliable evidence. Among these international experts is Dr. Rita Kaltiala, chief psychiatrist at Tampere university gender clinic and author of several peer-reviewed studies on trans medicine and Finland's top authority on pediatric gender care.
- (2023) Landmark study from Denmark on 3,800 transgender patients pulled data from hospital records and applications from legal gender changes and discovered 43% of this group had a psychiatric illness compared with 7% of non-trans group, and despite "gender affirming care" and legal gender changes, still had 7.7 the rate of suicide attempts and 3.5 times the rate of suicide deaths. Researchers state this rate is likely even higher due to missing data.
- (2016) Study finds association with increased risk of multiple sclerosis for trans women taking estrogen/reducing testosterone levels.
- (2023) Metadata study shows, at best, no improvement for patients in gender-affirming care. "The conclusions of the systematic reviews of evidence for adolescents are consistent with long-term adult studies, which failed to show credible improvements in mental health and suggested a pattern of treatment-associated harms. Three recent papers examined the studies that underpin the practice of youth gender transition and found the research to be deeply flawed. Evidence does not support the notion that “affirmative care” of today’s adolescents is net beneficial."
- (2011) Long term follow up of 324 transgender people having undergone sex reassignment surgery in Sweden, found that trans women retained male patterned incidents and rates of violence and had a greater significance and rate of rape and sexual violence than cisgender men. The study also found, "Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
- (2020) Largest study to date on 641,860 people finds association with autism and "gender diversity", "Gender-diverse people also report, on average, more traits associated with autism, such as sensory difficulties, pattern-recognition skills and lower rates of empathy — or accurately understanding and responding to another person’s emotional state".
- (2022) US study examining 10 years of data on 952 people finds large percentages of young adults prescribed hormones for trans identity no longer getting the drugs 4 years later. Discontinuation rate for both sexes combined = 30%. Female discontinuation rate as high as 44%. The standard disinformation pushed is that only 1-2% of people who begin medical transition end up desisting. But these figures show that in this cohort of young adults, the overall rate of discontinuing hormone treatment ranged from a low of 10% to a high of 44% within a space of just 4 years.
- Abruzzese et al. 2023 'The Myth of “Reliable Research” in Pediatric Gender Medicine: A critical evaluation of the Dutch Studies—and research that has followed'
More to come.
I am Sage's mother, better known as Nana. I adopted Sage after my son died when she was still a baby. She's been through six foster homes by then, but we loved her and she blossomed into a joyful, lively girl who made music and art.
Puberty began and COVID hit, and she was treated for depression and anxiety, at times very severe. Her teachers shared any concerns with me so her treatment could be adapted.
The transparency ended in August of 2021 when Sage started high school. She started a public high school and she told me that all the girls there were bi, trans, lesbian, emo and she wanted to wear boy's clothes and be emo. Because I saw it as just a phase, it was fine with me.
But at school, she told them something different: she was now a boy named Draco with male pronouns. Sage asked the school not to tell me, and they did not tell me even though I informed them of her mental health history and medication. If I had known, this would be a much different story.
She was terribly bullied. No one told me. But boys followed her, touched her, threatened violence and rape. Something happened in the boy's bathroom but for two days, the school told me nothing. They kept meeting with Sage alone and she became so distraught they called me to pick her up.
That evening, I found a hallpass labeled 'Draco' and Sage told me she was identifying as a boy, and that her counselor said she could use the boy's bathroom. She'd been jacked up against the wall by a group of boys. She was crying, terrified. I said just stay home, we'll figure it out. That was my last conversation with Sage for five months.
The night she ran, she thought, to a young friend she'd met online, she left a note saying she was scared of what would happen if she stayed. The sheriff, FBI, search dogs were called in. I dropped to my knees in prayer. Nine days later the FBI found her in Baltimore. My baby had been lured online, sex trafficked by DC then Maryland. She was locked in a room, drugged, gang raped and brutalized by countless men. It was night. The FBI told us to pick her up in Maryland the next morning.
We packed our cars with blankets and stuffed animals and arrived by 8 am, but we were told we couldn't see her, and were summoned before Judge Robert Kershaw late that afternoon. They didn't even tell Sage that we came for her. We finally entered the courtroom and Sage appears on a huge Zoom screen from a prison cell. She looks tiny and broken, and I cry out 'I love you Sage.' Sage responds 'I love you too, Nana.' But attorney Anisa Khan rebukes us. She is a 'he' and his name is 'Draco' not Sage. We were floored.
Khan accuses us of emotional and physical abuse, that we are misgendering her, even though we just learned she claims to be trans and we're willing to use any name and pronouns to bring her home. My husband was so tearful he kept forgetting the new pronouns, so the judge had the bailiff remove him from the courtroom. I was pleading for my child to be returned and treated for her unspeakable trauma. Judge Kershaw told me, if I use the word 'trauma' again, he would throw me out too.
For over two months, he withheld custody. He housed Sage in the male quarters of a children's home. Sage told me she was the only girl and repeatedly assaulted. She was given street drugs by the other kids and Khan told her she didn't care. She just wanted to win the case and all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. Khan tried to prove abuse, but we were eventually cleared by both states of all charges.
Sage later told me Khan had told her to lie that we hit her. Khan even had Sage's school counselors testify against u,s though they barely knew Sage and they didn't know us at all. Khan told my precious child I didn't want her anymore. I found out Sage never received any of the letters I sent her.
Sage ran from the Children's Home and disappeared for months. They told me she might already be gone forever, but I couldn't give up and I finally found a tip on her social media that led the marshals to her in Texas. She had been drugged, raped, beaten and exploited. This time I was able to be with her for the traumatic rape exam, and to bring her home.
Back in Virginia, she entered the mental health facility that Judge Kershaw had ordered, as it would affirm her as a male. The therapist began pressuring her to have her healthy breasts removed. Sage was too scared to protest, but she asked me to secretly buy her girl's clothes because she wanted to be a girl, but keep them in the car. It took a kind lawyer, Josh Hetzler to secure her discharge.
After almost a year. Sage was finally home. Safe. Alive. Sage is receiving professional trauma care the first trafficker has already been convicted. Sage has nightmares, panic attacks, rape-related medical issues, but there's hope. I tell her she's not broken she's just scarred. And part of that hope is that in courageously sharing her story, others will be saved.
Sage said she doesn't know who she was back then. She wasn't a boy, she just wanted to have friends. But her school, the judge, the attorney and the doctor were all blinded by their ideology. The consequences for Sage were unspeakable.
Please don't let ideology harm another child. Let parents do our jobs. We know our children best and we love them a million times more.
Thank you.
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Jesus Christ. This girl was exploited by everybody, except for her parents, who were villainized for literally nothing. It's opposite world.
And the fact that everybody with authority prioritized stupid shit like pronouns and trying to coax her further down into a fake identity, even against her will, and other ideological bullshit over her actual wellbeing is disgraceful.
The judge and attorney need to be disbarred, the therapist stripped of their license, and everyone who conspired to separate Sage from her parents fired.
This is what we mean when we say this is ideology.
this is one the scariest things i’ve ever read. to everyone in the tags talking about this being cult behaviour and ideology, that’s completely right, but this situation has something absolutely no other cult has ever had: complete institutional buy in from bodies that normally help *extract* people from cults. this is an insanity on an unprecedented scale and scope. this poor poor girl, and her poor mother.
I dont even understand how any of this was possible, this is terrible and terrifying.
Please share and feel free to use this study to prove that the Cotton Ceiling is an assault on lesbianism as a whole.
by @soft.strawb (instagram)
Things I support:
- dysphoric people (trans or not)
- getting dysphoric people access to better healthcare
- getting transitioning people access to better healthcare
- getting trans people healthcare which presents treatment for dysphoria and transition as options and does not pressure anyone to do anything
- scientific research into the health risks and long-term effects of various aspects of transitioning (binding, hormone therapy, psychological patterns, etc.)
- safety and autonomy of trans people
- detransitioned people
Things I do not support:
- males in female spaces
- female spaces being compromised into free-for-all “gender neutral” spaces (while male spaces are left untouched)
- medically transitioning children
- lesbians & gay men have to be “open to” dating transwomen/transmen respectively or they’re transphobic
- lesbians & gay men should “re-examine” their “genital fetishes” (i.e. DIY conversion therapy)
- presenting medical transition as the only route for dysphoric people
- pressuring dysphoric and/or gender-nonconforming people to identify as trans
- erasing gender-nonconforming women like joan of arc from women’s history by claiming they were transmen
- erasing gay figures like marsha p. johnson from gay rights history by claiming they were trans
- rapists, murderers and predators who hold (or held) positions of influence in the trans movement (biko, rivers, alok, etc etc)
- “centering” males in female reproductive rights
- silencing female issues to cater to transwomen’s feelings
- silencing victims of male trans people in the interest of “not making transwomen look bad”
- violent and/or intimidating protests, no-platforming, other intimidation tactics, as an attempt to ban women’s writing, silence women’s dissenting voices, and erase women’s achievements
- people identifying as trans based on gender stereotypes, outdated notions of “brain sex,” or nebulous feelings rather than sex dysphoria
- transwomen being allowed to pretend they were not socialized male
- transwomen being allowed to pretend they do not, and have never held male privilege
- transmen’s experiences with female socialization and sex-based oppression being silenced and transmen being thrown under the bus in order to make the previous two points appear legitimate
- pushing false statistics, lies, and strawman arguments to demonize anyone who questions trans theory
- “TERF”
- subsequent TERF witch-hunts, block lists, demanding that no one so much as hear what radical feminists have to say and instead blindly accept a strawman version of what we believe
- ostracizing and bullying of anyone who expresses curiosity about radical feminist ideas, reveals that they’ve read radical feminist blogs, or so much as reblogs memes from radical feminists
- denial of basic biology
- denial of basic sociology
- denial of sex-based oppression