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Anonymous asked:

any theories on earth the forth trove object could be - I think it was bones ?

bookofmirth answered:

Hmmmm interesting question! I pulled out some relevant quotes:

At the time, some claimed there were four, or that the fourth had been Unmade, but today’s legends only tell of three (225)

A fourth object lay on the altar, veiled in shadow. But she couldn’t make out more than a gleam of age-worn bone- (548)

And the final one:

Nesta’s stomach churned, but she refrained from mentioning how graphic that vision had been. “There was a fourth object in the vision, but it was in shadow - was there ever a fourth part of that Trove? All I could make out was a bit of ancient bone.”

Rhys ran a hand through his dark hair. “As far as history has confirmed, there are only three objects in the Trove.”

Feyre asked, “What if it’s protected by a spell, like the one to shield all the Trove, to keep people from ever knowing about the fourth object?”

Rhys’s eye shadowed. “Then the Mother spare us, because even Amren only vaguely remembers a rumor of it.” (556)

Because it’s bone the first thing I thought of was a relic, like from a saint. However, I have no idea if that is even a thing in that world. Except... if Amren knew about it, considering what she used to be.... that could be a possibility? But relics don’t do much on their own except act as objects of worship. Maybe it being in Prythian would mean something different?

Or it could be something that was used to keep someone alive à la Jurian? We already have Koschei as a villain but perhaps... he’s an old god, right? Maybe there is someone from his past and he was using Briallyn to help him retrieve that person. The mortal queens strike me as power hungry and not really thinking about the big picture, beyond what they can gain now (or at least, the ones who are still living are like that), so they would be easily manipulated into going for the Trove if they were promised power, unknowingly leading Koschei to something he wants even more.

But then again, being made of bone doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s still in some skeletal structure - it could be an object made of bone that serves an entirely different purpose. I just can’t help thinking that the material itself is important - not gold, not steel, not rock, etc.

And if it’s that old, perhaps it’s linked to the story sjm said would take place far in the past? Or perhaps she decided to take that story and make it relevant to the current timeline with Nesta & Co., and so it would be a blend of the two. An event in the past that has serious implications for Prythian now.

@rayonfrozenwings throw in your 2 cents cuz I know you have thoughts

rayonfrozenwings

I love you for this @bookofmirth. I was looking into this myself but on a larger level and not looking closer.

I agree that it can be like a relic or something from a saint in the past. The reason I agree is because I believe that the fourth trove item is in fact the Ivory Horn (Luna’s Horn) from Crescent City: HOEAB.

So in CC we have mention of the Autumn King. One Fae King.

I don’t know whether CC is before/ after/ same time or parallel universe or what it is. I don’t have the information to make that connection as cleanly as I would like just yet and I’ve been looking at these theories since Empire of Storms.

The Autumn King in CC is in possession of a golden crown and he has been looking for the Horn because it is of importance. The horn is made of:

“cracked ivory” (CC)

and is described as being one of three artifacts of Luna. Once it belonged to the first starborn prince Pelias.

“Luna’s Horn was a weapon wielded by Pelias, the first Starborn Prince, during the First Wars. The Fae forged it in their homeworld, named it for the goddess in their new one, and used it to battle the demon hordes once they made the crossing. Pelias wielded the Horn until he died.” (cc:hoeab)

I am not going to write a full theory but rather just answer the question above. I think the Horn is the Fourth Artifact in the Death Trove. It's made of Ivory and that's synonymous for bone - it had enough power to fight demon hordes before it was damaged.

It came from another world, the Harp is an artifact that allows a crossing between worlds as mentioned in ACOSF so it doesn't seem unreasonable that either in the past or the future the Horn would be lost across dimensions/worlds. there is also another quote in CC that describes this crossing.

“This is just a three-page account of Prince Pelias and his bride, Lady Helena. But I didn’t realize that Pelias was actually the high general for a Fae Queen named Theia when they entered this world during the Crossing—and Helena was her daughter. From what it sounds like, Queen Theia was also Starborn, and her daughter possessed the same power. Theia had a younger daughter with the same gift, but only Lady Helena gets mentioned.” Ruhn cleared his throat and read, “Night-haired Helena, from whose golden skin poured starlight and shadows. It seems like Pelias was one of several Fae back then with the Starborn power.” (CC)

I am going to leave this here for now.... because I need to research more. But i’m happy that the Horn is the 4th object hidden in shadow in ACOSF - whether it is shadowed in ACOSF because it is in the ACOTAR world or gone due to destruction (the history we are given of the horn in cc) or moving across worlds is yet to be seen.

#theory #acosf #reneewritesfantheory #acosf spoilers #acotar theory #acosf theory #cc theory #sjm theory #cc spoilers #cc #cc:hoeab #sjm #renee writes theory #again #havent for a while #adding on basically

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Sarah please share how you possibly came up with Hunt’s mannerisms I just can’t figure it out please let us in on your secrets

#hahahahahaha #omg #cc spoilers #lol #meme #worthy

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Anonymous asked:

I personally see Bryce as plus size too, but honestly I can't even be mad at people for picturing her thin with big boobs because that's how Maas described her. She talks about how she's "full-figured" and with "too much curves to be a dancer" but nothing clearer, so I get why people wouldn't be sure. Lehebah's description was much clearer, so Maas can describe plus size characters when she wants to, she just chose to be vague with Bryce. Sorry, as a plus size I'm tired of fake representation.

aelin-godkiller answered:

I understand all of this! It would be nice to get a clearer visual. And I do not think that Bryce counts as plus sized rep given that she is not described as plus sized.

Except…I can be angry at people picturing and drawing her thin….or at least annoyed, because Bryce is not described as thin, she’s described as being curvy and…well, only Kardashians have bodies where they are JUST curvy in the boobs and ass and no fat anywhere else, and this is what I’ve seen in basically every Bryce art.

It’s not JUST that Maas isn’t describing Bryce as clearly as she could, it’s that people read “curvy” and “generous figure” and draw her as a stick figures with boobs. That’s…not Maas’s fault, and this honestly reminds me of how people continuously read “golden brown” and “bronze skin” and then draw Fenrys as pale white (obviously white washing is a separate, very important issue, and not the same as what is going on here, but it’s similar in that the text can say one thing and people can…ignore that for their own preferred version). YES Maas could be better at describing basically everyone—it isn’t her strong suit in writing. BUT, artists could also TRY to draw outside of what they consider to be conventionally attractive, euro-centric features.

At the very least, I’d want to see artists depicting Bryce as having a body similar to Serena Williams, who is muscular and curvy, but clearly not just a stick figure with an ass.

I had @rayonfrozenwings do a search in her ebook earlier for me, and I think that while Maas isn’t as clear as she could be, it’s…pretty obvious that Bryce feels othered for her body and like she isn’t as pretty as the very thin and delicate fae. This alone signals that her body type diverges from what is the general standard of beauty—so it’s weird to me that we keep getting art where she is very thin, when the book is fairly clear on thin and small equaling fae and curvy and larger equaling human, and not as attractive.

Here’s some examples:

“Your cousin said you used to dance. That you stopped after Danika died. You never wanted to follow that road?” She pointed to the sweep of her hips. “I was told my half-human body was too clunky. I was also told that my boobs were too big, and my ass could be used as an aerialport landing pad.”

Her body is clunky, her ass is huge, she isn’t ballerina thin.

She’s described elsewhere as “warm and soft,” as being “the wrong type” for dancing, and as having a “generously curved figure” (more than once). She is also muscled from dancing and exercise, based on a few other descriptions.

When Maas’s heroines are super thin, we are told that, as with Feyre and Nesta. When their thinness is meant to be sexy, she tells us that as well, especially with Nesta. Bryce is sexy and beautiful because of her curves, and we see this often in Hunt’s perspective. Her stomach is never mentioned as being flat or taut or anything.

I’m not saying Bryce is amazing or well done plus sized rep. We are not told she is plus sized.

But we ARE told that she is larger than the fae, that she is curvy, that her body is soft, that she has muscled thighs, that she has a large ass, and that she has the wrong type of body for dancing and that her body is not viewed as conventionally beautiful. To me, this does NOT translate into a Kardashian body, which is the art I’ve predominantly seen. It translates into someone who is more realistic looking, who has fat in places, who is large, who is maybe larger on the bottom than on top, who isn’t a perfect hourglass figure, who looks less than model perfect.

Maas hasn’t been as clear as she could be, yes, but artists have chosen to ignore the textual representation of Bryce as a curvy woman, and instead a lot of them have painted her as having curves that are only attainable for a few people and those who can afford plastic surgery. I know people read and interpret as they wish but it is sad when we get a curvy heroine and basically NO artist depicts her as plus sized.

rayonfrozenwings

I identify with Bryce.

The fan art is beautiful but I wouldn’t say it’s accurate to my interpretation🤷‍♀️.

If I was more body confident I’d post a picture of myself. Instead I’ll share using words.

I’m Size 12-14nz I’m tallish at 5”9 and usually weigh 80-85kgs. I’m not plus-size but not small. I’m the average size for a kiwi woman (which is usually a size14 unless it’s changed recently). I do have a small waist in proportion to the rest of me. I have no ass tho - instead all my fat is blubby on the front and on my tummy. I am soft. Aparently softness is nice to hug tho - when I was skinnier Aparently my bony hips dug in when I sat next to hubby on the couch. My hips are wide - multiple people have actually said over the course of my life that I have “child bearing hips”. They don’t realise I don’t find it complementary. I have big boobs. Especially in relation to my small waist. My usual bra size is a 12g. They are a bitch to buy - just saying. I am semi-fit. I have thighs (even if I have no ass). I don’t like to run tho. But I can lift children to bed without puffing. I can walk long distances. I try not to exert myself. Bryce does run and does push herself so I imagine she is more muscled than myself. She won’t have chicken wing arms like me.

Of course this is my interpretation based on the text and also on how much I relate to Bryce. But I see her as someone like me but fitter. Weirdly enough - you can be of average build or plus size and still be fit as hell 😱. I know because I have never been “fit” and everyone else around me is still running and I’m dying on the side or the road during “cross country” back when I was a skinny teen. Just coz your skinny doesn’t mean you are fit.

And I went off on a tangent. But that’s because I feel like Lucia summed it up pretty well above.

aelin-godkiller

All of this Renee!!!

I think that yeah I would love to just see Bryce depicted as a woman who has fat somewhere other than the acceptable places of her ass and boobs. Because that’s not how the human body works!

And YES you can be plus sized and fat and plump and curvy and also be very fit. Skinny does not equal healthy and skinny doesn’t equal fit.

#reply #cc #cc spoilers #bryce #spoilers #cc:hoeab #hoeab

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Anonymous asked:

I personally see Bryce as plus size too, but honestly I can't even be mad at people for picturing her thin with big boobs because that's how Maas described her. She talks about how she's "full-figured" and with "too much curves to be a dancer" but nothing clearer, so I get why people wouldn't be sure. Lehebah's description was much clearer, so Maas can describe plus size characters when she wants to, she just chose to be vague with Bryce. Sorry, as a plus size I'm tired of fake representation.

aelin-godkiller answered:

I understand all of this! It would be nice to get a clearer visual. And I do not think that Bryce counts as plus sized rep given that she is not described as plus sized.

Except…I can be angry at people picturing and drawing her thin….or at least annoyed, because Bryce is not described as thin, she’s described as being curvy and…well, only Kardashians have bodies where they are JUST curvy in the boobs and ass and no fat anywhere else, and this is what I’ve seen in basically every Bryce art.

It’s not JUST that Maas isn’t describing Bryce as clearly as she could, it’s that people read “curvy” and “generous figure” and draw her as a stick figures with boobs. That’s…not Maas’s fault, and this honestly reminds me of how people continuously read “golden brown” and “bronze skin” and then draw Fenrys as pale white (obviously white washing is a separate, very important issue, and not the same as what is going on here, but it’s similar in that the text can say one thing and people can…ignore that for their own preferred version). YES Maas could be better at describing basically everyone—it isn’t her strong suit in writing. BUT, artists could also TRY to draw outside of what they consider to be conventionally attractive, euro-centric features.

At the very least, I’d want to see artists depicting Bryce as having a body similar to Serena Williams, who is muscular and curvy, but clearly not just a stick figure with an ass.

I had @rayonfrozenwings do a search in her ebook earlier for me, and I think that while Maas isn’t as clear as she could be, it’s…pretty obvious that Bryce feels othered for her body and like she isn’t as pretty as the very thin and delicate fae. This alone signals that her body type diverges from what is the general standard of beauty—so it’s weird to me that we keep getting art where she is very thin, when the book is fairly clear on thin and small equaling fae and curvy and larger equaling human, and not as attractive.

Here’s some examples:

“Your cousin said you used to dance. That you stopped after Danika died. You never wanted to follow that road?” She pointed to the sweep of her hips. “I was told my half-human body was too clunky. I was also told that my boobs were too big, and my ass could be used as an aerialport landing pad.”

Her body is clunky, her ass is huge, she isn’t ballerina thin.

She’s described elsewhere as “warm and soft,” as being “the wrong type” for dancing, and as having a “generously curved figure” (more than once). She is also muscled from dancing and exercise, based on a few other descriptions.

When Maas’s heroines are super thin, we are told that, as with Feyre and Nesta. When their thinness is meant to be sexy, she tells us that as well, especially with Nesta. Bryce is sexy and beautiful because of her curves, and we see this often in Hunt’s perspective. Her stomach is never mentioned as being flat or taut or anything.

I’m not saying Bryce is amazing or well done plus sized rep. We are not told she is plus sized.

But we ARE told that she is larger than the fae, that she is curvy, that her body is soft, that she has muscled thighs, that she has a large ass, and that she has the wrong type of body for dancing and that her body is not viewed as conventionally beautiful. To me, this does NOT translate into a Kardashian body, which is the art I’ve predominantly seen. It translates into someone who is more realistic looking, who has fat in places, who is large, who is maybe larger on the bottom than on top, who isn’t a perfect hourglass figure, who looks less than model perfect.

Maas hasn’t been as clear as she could be, yes, but artists have chosen to ignore the textual representation of Bryce as a curvy woman, and instead a lot of them have painted her as having curves that are only attainable for a few people and those who can afford plastic surgery. I know people read and interpret as they wish but it is sad when we get a curvy heroine and basically NO artist depicts her as plus sized.

rayonfrozenwings

I identify with Bryce.

The fan art is beautiful but I wouldn’t say it’s accurate to my interpretation🤷‍♀️.

If I was more body confident I’d post a picture of myself. Instead I’ll share using words.

I’m Size 12-14nz I’m tallish at 5”9 and usually weigh 80-85kgs. I’m not plus-size but not small. I’m the average size for a kiwi woman (which is usually a size14 unless it’s changed recently). I do have a small waist in proportion to the rest of me. I have no ass tho - instead all my fat is blubby on the front and on my tummy. I am soft. Aparently softness is nice to hug tho - when I was skinnier Aparently my bony hips dug in when I sat next to hubby on the couch. My hips are wide - multiple people have actually said over the course of my life that I have “child bearing hips”. They don’t realise I don’t find it complementary. I have big boobs. Especially in relation to my small waist. My usual bra size is a 12g. They are a bitch to buy - just saying. I am semi-fit. I have thighs (even if I have no ass). I don’t like to run tho. But I can lift children to bed without puffing. I can walk long distances. I try not to exert myself. Bryce does run and does push herself so I imagine she is more muscled than myself. She won’t have chicken wing arms like me.

Of course this is my interpretation based on the text and also on how much I relate to Bryce. But I see her as someone like me but fitter. Weirdly enough - you can be of average build or plus size and still be fit as hell 😱. I know because I have never been “fit” and everyone else around me is still running and I’m dying on the side or the road during “cross country” back when I was a skinny teen. Just coz your skinny doesn’t mean you are fit.

And I went off on a tangent. But that’s because I feel like Lucia summed it up pretty well above.

#cc #hoeab spoilers #bryce quinlan #hoeab #cc:hoeab #cc spoilers #spoilers #bryce #quotes #sjm #character descriptions

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booklover-sleeplover

Just wanted to drop this by before my sleep deprived brain forgets.

HOUSE OF EARTH AND BLOOD

Remember when Bryce is describing Midgard and talks about how a portal opened about 15 thousand years ago?

Now. In one of the books of ACOTAR (can’t remember if it was ACOMAF or ACOWAR) BUT, when Amren is telling her story she says that she came from a world in which she obeyed an All-Powerfull (God?) And she was somewhat an Angel. What if she came from the same place that those creatures that came to conquer Midgard. What if the Asteri are what Amren was?

I think that’s how Sarah is going to conect the books. She will send Bryce after the 7th Asteri and somehow end up in Prythian.

Anyway…

I Just wanted to rent about my theorys for Crescent City and say that if Bryce and Hunt breaks up and go after other people, I will still love them. However I will probably adore the new pairing because I am Sarah’s little bitch and she can destroy my heart after making them almost die for each other. I shiped.

aelinthemaassassin

You mean Amren with her silver eyes- maybe starlight silver?? Amren who in her true form appeared as a being of “light and fire”??? Gosh this theory has me shook

Also def agree on your Hunt/Byrce ideas. Like yeah I like them together, but I know Sarah could make it feel just as wholesome (maybe even more) if they became best buds instead of mates.

Oooh I like this theory. @rayonfrozenwings ? Theories are your jam, curious what you think?

rayonfrozenwings

Yeah I’m pretty sure Amren is a wraith like Vikotria, who can choose her own form but gets punished by the Asteri…. i Did think it was for a different reason and not ascending Mt Heron but both are options. I have a “Amren is a watcher angel” theory somewhere too…. I’ll have to find it. Let’s just say my theory of the interconnectedness of books continues to gain supporting evidence.

omg i have too many old theories. *facepalm* this one has a paragraph titled Amren Angels and the illyrians. Another set of angel theories…. Amren + the Prison - here 3.1 Highlords as descendants of Arch Angels - here 3.2 Fall of the Watcher Angels and Illyrian Origins - here 3.3

Though, were continuing to gain support for the interconnectedness of things - and we know wyrd gates exist, we know that the gates in CC/Lunathon used to let people through. In ACOFAS we learn about a tower on Ramiel that the illyrians feel connected to someone else (like the gates in Lunathon). We know that the worlds of Tog and ACOTAR had tunnels that connected to other worlds because both book series say so - the creature in the lake comes through, Alis mentions to Feyre I think. We know Mass has said that they are part of the same multiverse in a tweet. We know that in CC the Autumn King is looking at planets and studying them. The bone carver talks about worlds turning to dust and that his world isn’t there anymore. That’s just the surface.

I’ve slacked off on the theory writing in the last year because its feeling more obvious that it’s all connected - the next part is figuring out the order of events not that the worlds/series are connected if that makes sense. Part of me wonders if this is why “the world of Throne of Glass” keeps getting pushed back. It would contain spoilers for the other series’ to give a history of TOG so Im not realistically expecting it until after ACOTAR and CC are finished up.

If anyone wants to ask me about thoughts and theories im happy to answer, still here just less active. <3 <3 thanks for the tag @photofeesh :)

fan theory masterlist …. theories made from EoS - post ACOFAS… no new ones yet since reading CC.

iamthebonecarver

Armen says she was a soldier in her other life but she hints at it being more like a bounty hunter assassin shit so even tho she’s an angel, I would compare her closer to someone like Fury Axtar

rayonfrozenwings

Yeah, they are all warriors in CC it feels like, “this is the war that never ends... it goes on and on my friends... We started fighting not knowing what it was.... and we’ll continue fighting forever just because.... it is the war that never ends.......

We don't even know what Fury Axtar is so this could be a possibility. But people in authority are def weary. *chefs kiss*

#cc spoilers #hoeab spoilers #hoeab #cc #fan theory #acotar #tog #sjm #fury axtar

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Anonymous asked:

Hey, I was looking at your thoughts on HOEAB and I was having a little think to myself last night about why it wasn’t sitting well with me too. Just wanted to say I agree on the immaturity - with her other books, we’re reading young characters who’ve grown up too fast but I think it doesn’t sit well with us because we’re reading about a woman in her mid-twenties who’s actually really immature! Something to think about, I guess?

aelin-godkiller answered:

Hmm…I think it’s also that Bryce has no responsibilities at the start of Hoeab, and then she basically stays stagnant for the years after Danika dies. So she doesn’t mature that much because she isn’t really living her life.

Whereas yeah, as you point out. Aelin and Feyre grow up fast, and most of us understand that when Aelin is knd of immature in tab, it’s fine because she’s sixteen.

Bryce is immature despite being 24, and the story is mostly about her growing into maturity…

I started to like her more as the book went on and found her to be way more mature by the end than at the beginning.

rayonfrozenwings

I wonder if long lifespans mean that there is less pressure to be mature though. 🤔

#hoeab #hoeab spoilers #cc #cc spoilers #spoilers #bryce

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Contains Crescent City Spoilers

A post about Skin colour/tone in Crescent City: HOEAB

because I got Salty that people don’t read critically or pay attention (basically some people fall back on their default settings)... and I decided to find facts with the hope that people will accurately represent them in writing and art or try to at least not make the characters who aren't white - white.

People Described as “Pale” in relation to skin tone in Crescent City

- Danika ch5 “even her pale skin usually flushed with colour and health, seemed ashen”

- Maximus ( A Vampire) ch8

- A satyr they come across - (Pale skinned ch18)

- The demon, Kristallos (ch21)

- Briggs (ch35)

- Sabine (ch37, ch 43, 49)

- Viktoria (40)

- Aidas - “Pale skinned pretty boy” ch51

- The Harpy (ch73)

9 people. 9 white people. 9 people clearly stated. Sure some characters are not stated as being white or any other skin colour and they could totally be white - but is that just your default setting talking? I can't remember or source what Micah looks like other than having white wings for instance - Maybe on a second read I will find that out.

Some other references to the word “pale” are: they turned pale, they paled, impaled, the pale pink lace, pale green eyes etc.

Both Dark Skinned characters and light skinned characters turn pale. Here are some examples below.

- Tharion - “Tharion said nothing, his tan face going pale.” (TAN but still turning pale). (ch42) - Hunt - “Hunts face was pale” - Bryce - ch6 - “turns sickly pale” ch12 - Michah stares at Bryce and she turns pale that her freckles look like blood across her nose. ch26 - when she realises she is covered in blood - her face paled ch61- “her face slightly pale” ch50 - Ruhn paled

The ways sjm does describe skin in this book (all tones).

Golden skin (Bryce) ,
Golden skin (Connor),
Tan skin (gorgeous daemonaki from crescent city: clothing optional edition),
pale skin (Danika),
golden skin (Reid - that human BF at the start),
tanned skin (human at restaurant),
dark brown skin (Juniper),
near-translucent grey skin (demon - Kristallos),
gold-dusted skin (Bryce ch6),
golden skinned(Ruhn ch8),
light brown skin (Hunt),
pale skinned (Satyr),
moon-skinned (Viper Queen),
dark-skinned (Temple acolyte),
brown skin (Juniper),
tan skin (Bryce ch26),
silky skin - soft skin and bare skin also bryce in ch 26,
freckled skin (Ember),
brown skinned (Randall),
Golden Skin (Bryce),
tan skin (Bryce),
Golden skin (Helena -starborn),
pale-skinned (Briggs),
deep gold of his skin (Hunt),
golden brown skin (Hunt),
golden skin (Bryce),
glowing brown skin (medwitch aka Hypaxia),
pale skin (Viktoria),
pale-skinned (Aidas),
gold dusted brown skin (Hunt),
tan skin (Hunt),
Golden-brown skin (Hunt),
brown skin (Randall),
pale-skinned (Harpy),
brown-skinned (Queen Hypaxia),
Dark skinned (Female mer leader not the River Queen but could be a relation),
mottled grey skin (Demon),
and yes there are other descriptions, like smooth skin and flushed skin but I mostly left those out.

Other Body Part Descriptions to help describe Skin Colour

“Gold dusted Legs” - Bryce

“Stripped legs” - Juniper (remember she’s a fawn and has fuzzy fawn legs)

“the females tan face” - Fae woman at dinner

“light brown face” - Fury Axtar

“Golden brown face” - Hunt

“pale face twisted in a snarl” - Sabine

“Tharion said nothing, his tan face going pale” - Tharion

“Ithan’s tan face” - Ithan

“elegant brown face” - Hypaxia

I can go and look at other ways to describe white but I think that’s a good assessment to start. I’m sure there is more.

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Anonymous asked:

If they have to be endgame fine, but SJM need to make him way more interesting. He's a really forgettable guy compared to the others like Therion and Ruhn. Which is sad cause Rhysand and Rowan were such amazing leading male characters. Hunt just seems so bland next to them. I honestly could not tell you what he looked like except gray wings and muscles. Also Lehabah was my fave so I'm really upset she's gone so soon.

bookofmirth answered:

Yeah! Also Hunt has light brown skin. Just saying. *cough*

I feel like Hunt had this problem hanging over his head the whole book - his need to “atone” by killing for Micah, the threat of his contract being turned over to Sandriel - but it was solved with little to no consequence? Like? Hypaxia just Did It and all that stress and angst about having to kill for people who had him enslaved is just over? It doesn’t make his story feel as compelling or memorable as it could have. And beyond that backstory, he has like no real personality. I almost wish that he really had been planning to rebel and had stood up for the fact that he is ENSLAVED and maybe Bryce should idk, think that’s a bad thing and not just casually work for The Man.

tl;dr I’m pretty disappointed that the mass enslavement of humans was just brushed off the whole book.

I’m super sad that Lehabah is gone, I think I legit posted while reading that she was my favorite? Her and Danika. Whomp whomp, don’t get attached I guess.

rayonfrozenwings

Salty opinion to start - I feel like fandom as a whole doesn’t pay attention to what people look like while they are reading and then expect the fan art to fill in the gaps. The great thing about reading is that you get to use your imagination to use the clues and make them in your own mind. Urgh.

Sorry - pet peeve of mine there because I feel like in crescent city sjm actually tried to use more skin colour descriptions, more height descriptions and body shape descriptions. Each character looks and feels different - from the clues I picked up anyway.

So Hunt - He’s a warrior who stormed a mountain, has strong arms (a sjm trademark). Bryce comments on his ass. He wears a crown of thorns - it’s tattooed, referred to as a halo and also as a dark crown. I’m thinking his halo tattoo is dark in pigment according to that. His name is actually Orion -‘d he explains why his mother chose this. He has “dark eyes” also described as “black eyes”. He has large grey feathered wings - differing from Isiah who has pristine white ones. He has “common blood” literally one sentence is “she knew those grey wings, and the dark shoulder length hair, and the cut of those broad shoulders”…. like… what else do we need to know?

Anyway. Sorry. Tangent. Pet peeve. I’ll chill now. Here’s some things that might help people get into his character…

So with hunt - He’s always looked down on for being a bastard. He felt protective of his mother but she is also looked down upon. And I feel like his personality is formed by this “not being good enough” but at the same time I think all the other angel wing peeps are jealous of him. He’s got the most unique gift - lightning - and so much power. So in order for the asteri and other angels to put him in his place I feel like there is this emphasis on lineage and him not being good enough.

Next - He was manipulated by his first love and I’m pretty sure he woulda been young then (I can check properly this is just from memory at this point). An arch angel vs an angel. I don’t feel like that relationship was good. There is a massive power imbalance there. I mean - bryce talks about alphaholes the whole book - maybe hunts first love is a alphahole. He might worship her but I don’t know if she worshipped him back. Could be a super icky back story about power imbalance and abuse of power.

Hunt also is enjoying what he has in the apartment because he appreciates it. It’s like a sign that he cares. Maybe that’s his personality - he does things to show affection. It makes sense, since he stormed mt heron for his first love.

I feel like he wasn’t the focus in this book - he was there, but Bryce was the main character. There are clues for the future - like always with sjm, but he’s not the MC so we don’t get everything. We also have 3 books to learn about these people and their past. And why a demon thinks Hunts lineage is interesting. Ya know?

Encyclopedia friend to the rescue

aelin-godkiller

echoing the whole bit about descriptions

SJM tried in this book, can we please not forget what people look like when for once she has actually described them pretty well!

Hunt has brown skin! It’s there in the text, either as light brown or brown or golden brown, and if I see one more white washed art of him I’ll scream. though tbh I’ve only seen one really bad one so…but I won’t @ the person who posted lol

i love everything you’ve said about power imbalance @rayonfrozenwings. It makes a lot of sense- Hunt has never had his own life, so maybe his personality will become more clear as he builds it.

rayonfrozenwings

@aelin-godkiller with a theme of abuse in SJM’s stories and I really do feel like Hunt’s story is going to be one of emotional manipulation to get him to do what they want. I don’t want it to be that because it will hurt me. But I also know SJM loves to see us in pain over her characters. haha. She cackled at the event I went to when she was talking about how people loved Tamlin in the start. cackled.

And yeah, with the descriptions thing- it doesn't take that much to find the answer in an e-book. I will look for anyone who doesn't have access to an e-book if they need to know someone's skin colour. Bryce is also *shock horror* not white. I’m not talking about character privilege or character attributes or the world history - literally just the way SJM describes their skin colour/wing colour/eye colour. And if a person creating something can get every other freaken detail right then there is no reason for skin colour to be wrong.

sorry not sorry.

#hoeab spoilers #spoilers #cc spoilers #cc:hoeab #crescent city #house of earth and blood #whoops #sorry not sorry #hunt is going to hurt me i know it #and sure im harping on but can we get it right at the start #think about your edits #think about your writing #think about your art #think about how you create this colour #how you represent them #because fandom content becomes more present than the text #because we engage in fandom daily and we dont read the book constantly #thats all im saying

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*Crescent City Spoilers* *please don’t judge me for my rambling thoughts and horrendous grammar*

I really loved this book. Holy crap. But with that being said, this book was really just one big book of groundwork. It set up sooooo many things

rayonfrozenwings

Yes!

All of this!!!

#crescent city spoilers #cc spoilers #hoeab spoilers #crescent city #spoilers #house of earth and blood #so many good thoughts in this post #im impressed i have not yet managed to get my thougjts down and probably wont be able yo #to*#ahh im so looking forward to the rest of the series

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Anonymous asked:

If they have to be endgame fine, but SJM need to make him way more interesting. He's a really forgettable guy compared to the others like Therion and Ruhn. Which is sad cause Rhysand and Rowan were such amazing leading male characters. Hunt just seems so bland next to them. I honestly could not tell you what he looked like except gray wings and muscles. Also Lehabah was my fave so I'm really upset she's gone so soon.

bookofmirth answered:

Yeah! Also Hunt has light brown skin. Just saying. *cough*

I feel like Hunt had this problem hanging over his head the whole book - his need to “atone” by killing for Micah, the threat of his contract being turned over to Sandriel - but it was solved with little to no consequence? Like? Hypaxia just Did It and all that stress and angst about having to kill for people who had him enslaved is just over? It doesn’t make his story feel as compelling or memorable as it could have. And beyond that backstory, he has like no real personality. I almost wish that he really had been planning to rebel and had stood up for the fact that he is ENSLAVED and maybe Bryce should idk, think that’s a bad thing and not just casually work for The Man.

tl;dr I’m pretty disappointed that the mass enslavement of humans was just brushed off the whole book.

I’m super sad that Lehabah is gone, I think I legit posted while reading that she was my favorite? Her and Danika. Whomp whomp, don’t get attached I guess.

rayonfrozenwings

Salty opinion to start - I feel like fandom as a whole doesn’t pay attention to what people look like while they are reading and then expect the fan art to fill in the gaps. The great thing about reading is that you get to use your imagination to use the clues and make them in your own mind. Urgh.

Sorry - pet peeve of mine there because I feel like in crescent city sjm actually tried to use more skin colour descriptions, more height descriptions and body shape descriptions. Each character looks and feels different - from the clues I picked up anyway.

So Hunt - He’s a warrior who stormed a mountain, has strong arms (a sjm trademark). Bryce comments on his ass. He wears a crown of thorns - it’s tattooed, referred to as a halo and also as a dark crown. I’m thinking his halo tattoo is dark in pigment according to that. His name is actually Orion -‘d he explains why his mother chose this. He has “dark eyes” also described as “black eyes”. He has large grey feathered wings - differing from Isiah who has pristine white ones. He has “common blood” literally one sentence is “she knew those grey wings, and the dark shoulder length hair, and the cut of those broad shoulders”…. like… what else do we need to know?

Anyway. Sorry. Tangent. Pet peeve. I’ll chill now. Here’s some things that might help people get into his character…

So with hunt - He’s always looked down on for being a bastard. He felt protective of his mother but she is also looked down upon. And I feel like his personality is formed by this “not being good enough” but at the same time I think all the other angel wing peeps are jealous of him. He’s got the most unique gift - lightning - and so much power. So in order for the asteri and other angels to put him in his place I feel like there is this emphasis on lineage and him not being good enough.

Next - He was manipulated by his first love and I’m pretty sure he woulda been young then (I can check properly this is just from memory at this point). An arch angel vs an angel. I don’t feel like that relationship was good. There is a massive power imbalance there. I mean - bryce talks about alphaholes the whole book - maybe hunts first love is a alphahole. He might worship her but I don’t know if she worshipped him back. Could be a super icky back story about power imbalance and abuse of power.

Hunt also is enjoying what he has in the apartment because he appreciates it. It’s like a sign that he cares. Maybe that’s his personality - he does things to show affection. It makes sense, since he stormed mt heron for his first love.

I feel like he wasn’t the focus in this book - he was there, but Bryce was the main character. There are clues for the future - like always with sjm, but he’s not the MC so we don’t get everything. We also have 3 books to learn about these people and their past. And why a demon thinks Hunts lineage is interesting. Ya know?

Encyclopedia friend to the rescue

rayonfrozenwings

If only I remembered useful information as well as I remember This stuff.

I will always come up with receipts tho - just watch out 😂 - don’t push me

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#hoeab #spoilers #hoeab spoilers #cc spoilers #cc: hoeab #brotp: ohbwtnb #brotp: vindictive ennui #and yea that vindictive side is the sude that pulls out the recirpts and the ennui side is the side that just dont give a fuck #because both are valid #😂😂😂😂😂

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Anonymous asked:

If they have to be endgame fine, but SJM need to make him way more interesting. He's a really forgettable guy compared to the others like Therion and Ruhn. Which is sad cause Rhysand and Rowan were such amazing leading male characters. Hunt just seems so bland next to them. I honestly could not tell you what he looked like except gray wings and muscles. Also Lehabah was my fave so I'm really upset she's gone so soon.

bookofmirth answered:

Yeah! Also Hunt has light brown skin. Just saying. *cough*

I feel like Hunt had this problem hanging over his head the whole book - his need to “atone” by killing for Micah, the threat of his contract being turned over to Sandriel - but it was solved with little to no consequence? Like? Hypaxia just Did It and all that stress and angst about having to kill for people who had him enslaved is just over? It doesn’t make his story feel as compelling or memorable as it could have. And beyond that backstory, he has like no real personality. I almost wish that he really had been planning to rebel and had stood up for the fact that he is ENSLAVED and maybe Bryce should idk, think that’s a bad thing and not just casually work for The Man.

tl;dr I’m pretty disappointed that the mass enslavement of humans was just brushed off the whole book.

I’m super sad that Lehabah is gone, I think I legit posted while reading that she was my favorite? Her and Danika. Whomp whomp, don’t get attached I guess.

rayonfrozenwings

Salty opinion to start - I feel like fandom as a whole doesn’t pay attention to what people look like while they are reading and then expect the fan art to fill in the gaps. The great thing about reading is that you get to use your imagination to use the clues and make them in your own mind. Urgh.

Sorry - pet peeve of mine there because I feel like in crescent city sjm actually tried to use more skin colour descriptions, more height descriptions and body shape descriptions. Each character looks and feels different - from the clues I picked up anyway.

So Hunt - He’s a warrior who stormed a mountain, has strong arms (a sjm trademark). Bryce comments on his ass. He wears a crown of thorns - it’s tattooed, referred to as a halo and also as a dark crown. I’m thinking his halo tattoo is dark in pigment according to that. His name is actually Orion -‘d he explains why his mother chose this. He has “dark eyes” also described as “black eyes”. He has large grey feathered wings - differing from Isiah who has pristine white ones. He has “common blood” literally one sentence is “she knew those grey wings, and the dark shoulder length hair, and the cut of those broad shoulders”.... like... what else do we need to know?

Anyway. Sorry. Tangent. Pet peeve. I’ll chill now. Here’s some things that might help people get into his character...

So with hunt - He’s always looked down on for being a bastard. He felt protective of his mother but she is also looked down upon. And I feel like his personality is formed by this “not being good enough” but at the same time I think all the other angel wing peeps are jealous of him. He’s got the most unique gift - lightning - and so much power. So in order for the asteri and other angels to put him in his place I feel like there is this emphasis on lineage and him not being good enough.

Next - He was manipulated by his first love and I’m pretty sure he woulda been young then (I can check properly this is just from memory at this point). An arch angel vs an angel. I don’t feel like that relationship was good. There is a massive power imbalance there. I mean - bryce talks about alphaholes the whole book - maybe hunts first love is a alphahole. He might worship her but I don’t know if she worshipped him back. Could be a super icky back story about power imbalance and abuse of power.

Hunt also is enjoying what he has in the apartment because he appreciates it. It’s like a sign that he cares. Maybe that’s his personality - he does things to show affection. It makes sense, since he stormed mt heron for his first love.

I feel like he wasn’t the focus in this book - he was there, but Bryce was the main character. There are clues for the future - like always with sjm, but he’s not the MC so we don’t get everything. We also have 3 books to learn about these people and their past. And why a demon thinks Hunts lineage is interesting. Ya know?

#hoeab spoilers #cc:hoeab #cc spoilers #spoilers #hunt #i have to stop because kids are distracting in the background and its bath time #lol #gosh darn it life #hoeab #crescent city #renee got ranty #my bad

rayonfrozenwings

Hunt wears a crown of thorns and repents for his kinds sins. Sure Micah has a twisted way for him to pay him back every single death but I appreciate that his halo is a crown of thorns and he takes on the sins of many as his own.

#hoeab spoilers #hoeab #renee reads #cc spoilers #spoilers #hunt #love me some imagry #crown of thorns

rayonfrozenwings

I’m finally up to part 3 in Hoeab nearly half way through. And I’m really enjoying it.

I love the way sjm tells the story.

I’m hunting for Easter eggs and theories and getting invested in the characters.

I really enjoy bryce and hunt as characters.

The magic is cool. There’s lots of it and it’s fun and playful. Lele comes to mind.

I have a ship I want to succeed

but I don’t like the oracle foreshadowing stuff because it had me worried for that.

#renee reads #hoeab spoilers #hoeab #cc spoilers #cc #cc:hoeab #not really spoilers but incase people want to avoid #i didnt write that many posts because i devoured it #happy to talk with peeps if they want to

rayonfrozenwings

I shoulda seen it coming.

If sjm is making me love someone then some shit is going to go down.

#ch5 #renee reads #hoeab #hoeab spoilers #spoilers #cc:hoeab #cc spoilers #not really but a reaction so kinda

rayonfrozenwings

Those gates and the opening devices remind me of stargate gates.

#renee reads #hoeab #cc:hoeab #hoeab spoilers #spoilers #renee rambles #cc spoilers

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aelin-godkiller

can we…let Bryce Quinlan be the curvy girl heroine we always wanted from Maas? and like,,,not depict her as skinny when the text…does a lot to demonstrate that she isn’t?

rayonfrozenwings

I haven’t finished the book. - 50% ish

{{{{out of context spoilers}}}}

But so far she has hips and ass and - good assets. But she also runs. A lot. And she’s strong. She dances but doesn’t have a dancers body. So I want fan art with thighs and calves and arm muscles and a butt! - like her holding a gun aiming at a target, muscles flexed.

Goddamn it she’s like what I would want to use my hips for. Because I have no ass so can’t claim that, but damn if I could be as strong as her I would be so happy.

#cc spoilers #hoeab spoilers #renee reads #spoilers #yes!#hoeab #bryce quinlain #please no skinny pale ass white girls #just a request #bryce

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