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I got a treat for ya
because we love an angry fuck and a smug asshole. commissioned by Acourtofari and the Council of Azris bless 🙏
Az is Ross (thanks to @rayonfrozenwings for a couple of these)
Amazing. Perfect.
Another: Ross after Rhys telling him to stay away from Elain in the Bonus POV.
Az is Ross (thanks to @rayonfrozenwings for a couple of these)
Amazing. Perfect.
Another: Ross after Rhys telling him to stay away from Elain in the Bonus POV.
It’s Christmas in Bookclub! ❧ azriel for @fractureddarkness
“ We—Rhys, Cass, and I—will occasionally remind each other that what we think to be our greatest weakness can sometimes be our biggest strength. And that the most unlikely person can alter the course of history.”
After eating a slice of pie in the Spring Court, Gwyn finds herself desperate to be closer to Azriel and put an end to their accidental bout of abstinence.
Warnings: NSFW. Very NSFW. Smut. Smuttiness for days.
Word Count: 8,476
Masterlist | @tealnymph24 or @tealnymph-writes
This is part of the Cherry Pie: ACOTAR Kinktober Smut Extravaganza collection. Make sure to check out the rest of the collection and the other authors!
The entire collection will be posted to AO3 and @tealnymph-writes.
After eating a slice of pie in the Spring Court, Gwyn finds herself desperate to be closer to Azriel and put an end to their accidental bout of abstinence.
Warnings: NSFW. Very NSFW. Smut. Smuttiness for days.
Word Count: 8,476
Masterlist | @tealnymph24 or @tealnymph-writes
This is part of the Cherry Pie: ACOTAR Kinktober Smut Extravaganza collection. Make sure to check out the rest of the collection and the other authors!
The entire collection will be posted to AO3 and @tealnymph-writes.
This kind of discussion that the other side of the fandom has about Lucien they also have about Azriel?
Because the arguments they use and talk about what Lucien is doing, Azriel spent 500 years doing with Mor and it was even Azriel who objectified Elain, even Rhys lost the color of his face when he heard his thoughts, but they see it as love.
Hypocrites.
So honestly, I think the thing that is the most telling in this whole entire discussion, is the failure to see that Azriel is being painted in the exact same (problematic) light as Lucien is. By sjm.
I'm going to go into a deep dive on this okay, because I've frankly been surprised that no one has (to me, at least) brought up the idea of Azriel's portrayal in the book being way worse than Lucien's, and so them both being POC, Azriel being more markedly so, should be a similar problem. Talking about either of them being angry or threatening to either Mor or Elain should be the same problem, right?
Wrong.
This is going to be super long. Under the cut explanation of why the fandom describing Azriel as angry is not at all the same issue as saying that Lucien won’t leave Elain alone, and how while Azriel’s characterization is fucked up on sjm’s part, the fandom’s interpretation of Lucien is fucked up and that’s on the people who insist on reading him a certain way.
I agree with all of this
I just want to say that the issue with Az, and the Illyrians in general, is that SJM really thoughtlessly does representation. So she wrote the Illyrians as a warrior race with various shades of "tan" skin, and then she later made it more clear that they all have various shades of brown skin. This made is clear that they are PoC, as well as the fact that they are othered by the high fae and looked down on. But rather than providing the books with good representation it just gave us some pretty shody rep. It might have even been better (idk less problematic?) for her to just leave the Illyrians as vaguely tanned white people (which it what they could have been in acomaf) who were a different "fae race" but would not necessarily experience racism if they lived in our world.
With Az, his story has the potential to be transformative and interesting, we could see this very angry, troubled man realize how his actions have affected the women in his life. We could see him grow and change and self reflect. We could see him be accountable for his actions.
This would be powerful because there are a lot of men in real life, of every race and ethnicity and nationality, who are angry and toxic and try to control the women around them.
But SJM has so little positive, well done representation for people of color (dare I say none? Like yes Helion and Tarquin and Rhys and Cass and Luc are positive characters, but I wouldn't say they are well done in terms of rep), that Azriel being both a man of color in our sense of the word and an othered "lesser fae race" in the in-universe sense of things, just comes off really terribly when we consider his problematic actions and anger.
It comes down to SJM not thinking these things through, or building her representation carefully, so these messes occur.
There's a world in which Az can both be a man of color and also have the issues that he has. But that's a world in which the representation of people of color has on the whole been done well, and is nuanced, and clear.
Instead, we get every Illyrian aside from Cass and Rhys being a war mongering misogynistic asshole, and that group currently includes Azriel.
In this essay I will...
this is exactly what it says. Canon material, mostly quoted but sometimes paraphrased, that shows something about how these characters either think of one another or how they act around each other. Do with it what you will. I have merely contextualized the Azriel extra for our convenience.
Feel free to add on, but the point of this post is not to speculate. It’s to show exactly what happened, and where we are at at the end of acosf.
Once upon a time… we all started reading acosf.
Chapter 19
Chapter 21
Chapter 22
Chapter 29
Chapter 42
Chapter 44
Chapter 58
Azriel extra paraphrase (full text here):
After this, Elain and Azriel have no more on-page interaction in the remaining 130 pages of acosf. I was also unable to find anything about him thinking of her. They are both in the room while Feyre gives birth but they kinda had other things on their minds.
Chapter 60
Chapter 64
Chapter 68
Chapter 80
Azriel and Elain: have not interacted on the page since the almost kiss after chapter 58, she returned his gift to him and he gave it to Gwyn (secretly), Rhys has (at least attempted to) put an end to Az “panting” around her.
Azriel and Gwyn: he helped train her, his shadows sing, he looks at her in admiration, she is his new ribbon, he talked to Clotho and Devlon so that Gwyn could do the Blood Rite Qualifier. Then he decided that Gwyn would be okay during the Blood Rite after being taken.
Azriel and Mor: idfk what his deal is
Elain and Lucien: still mated.
💫✨“Be careful how you speak about my high lady”✨💫Here I bring you all my dear bat boy Azriel💕, without a skirt because yes😏🧡Hope you all like it!🦇PLEASE DO NOT STOLE OR REPOST MY ART WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION
if youre still taking HC requests (and if youre comfortable writing this ofc) i'd love an elain x gwyn or an elain x azriel x gwyn hc please im tired of this fandom and would like my crackships to have s o m e content thank u
Hey thanks for the ask.
I’ve been thinking about this one for a wee while but I just can’t think of anything. It’s like that meme from little Britain playing over and over in my head.
And I want to but I can’t.
It could just be the ship war and my brain telling me- it’s not worth it. Or creative juices are being spent elsewhere…
Or my brain going - but elain and gwyn how do they hang out? And the shrug emoji replying.
I am on struggle street.
But
Fandom…
Hear me out?
Anyone got some headcanons for this Nonnie?
Add on and maybe we will get some gorgeous ideas from people who are a little shy or unsure.
Ok brain got a jumpstart by actually replying to the ask!!!
Hair care, you can’t tell me that elain with her perfect strawberry blonde hair and gwyn with her luscious locks don’t have something to share with eachother about keeping their hair looking good.
Ot starts off with gwyn talking to azriel and asking how his hair stays all swoshy and doesn’t get greasy. Because a sweaty illyrian boi wouldn’t have perfect hair all the time. Training is rough. and he says that elain gave him some special plant concoction from her garden and the market that he hadn’t really tried before but it’s amazing. And she should definitely talk to elain about it because she would love to share her knowledge.
So gwyn seeks out elain to ask about it and elain says she had to find something to keep her hair from drying out in the salt air of velaris because it dried it out faster than back home and being in the garden in the sun - even with a hat on, wasn’t always the best for her hair. So she discovered a few ingredients and is working with a local market stall holder to make products for hair and supply special herbs from her garden for that business - kinda like a partnership.
Gwyn starts to follow elains treatment plan and elain supplies her with a special discount and product so she doesn’t have to go into town and can stay near the house.
Over time elain finds out what smells and scents are gwyns favourites and starts to make original scents for her hair care products.
if youre still taking HC requests (and if youre comfortable writing this ofc) i'd love an elain x gwyn or an elain x azriel x gwyn hc please im tired of this fandom and would like my crackships to have s o m e content thank u
Hey thanks for the ask.
I’ve been thinking about this one for a wee while but I just can’t think of anything. It’s like that meme from little Britain playing over and over in my head.
And I want to but I can’t.
It could just be the ship war and my brain telling me- it’s not worth it. Or creative juices are being spent elsewhere…
Or my brain going - but elain and gwyn how do they hang out? And the shrug emoji replying.
I am on struggle street.
But
Fandom…
Hear me out?
Anyone got some headcanons for this Nonnie?
Add on and maybe we will get some gorgeous ideas from people who are a little shy or unsure.
(Long ask btw)
Coming from someone who was quite neutral on the ships until the bonus chapter (Azriel and Elain had there moments and Gwyn was a nice addition but the actual book didn’t seem to have that much of a romantic coding between them), I find it rather odd when people say Rhys was out of line. Even though I’m not the biggest fan of Rhys (especially during ACOSF) I found his action reasonable and not just in a High Lord to subject power dynamic. I think a lot of people were rushing to finish the chapter and see what was going to happen next, that they didn’t bother to see the reasons of Rhysand’s actions beyond the answer he stated.
Before he even told Azriel he couldn’t go after Elain he asked many questions to his brother. “What are your plans?” We see in Azriel’s mind he admits he hadn’t thought past his sexual fantasies. “What about Mor?” Azriel ignores this question and rather talks about how The third sister was given (not meant, but given like some object) to another. “You think you deserve her?” (Important to note that Rhys visibly pales here I believe) Rather than answer that very important question Azriel speaks on behalf of Elain to say she doesn’t want Lucien (which we don’t truly know as we don’t have her POV).
It is then and only then after those 3 vital questions-questions that should be convincing us that Azriel and Elain are supposed to be together- go completely ignored that Rhys tells Azriel to stay away from Elain. People seem to forget that these two are brothers. It was obvious to me that Rhys saw something amiss with Azriel (as seen with his reactions to Azriel’s responses) and from there told him to stay away. It was from the aspect of a High Lord to his subject and one brother to another that Rhys came from. Azriel is a toxic character right now and Rhys, his brother who has know him for 500 years and who is a literal mind readers, knows that.
I would also like to add that it is canon that the brother beat the ever-living crap out of each other (like bleeding, bruises, black eyes, etc) when they are mad, yet telling the other to not pursue a girl who they clearly put on a pedestal, who they only care sexually about, who they think they are entitled to, is where y’all draw the line????
This ask is one of the most valid things I've ever read.
We've all been so concerned about what Azriel did or didn't say, that we haven't thought about whether or not he was given the opportunity, or was allowed an opening, to talk about how he feels about Elain. And he was given that opportunity, explicitly.
All of those are important questions, and they aren't straight-up "how do you feel about her" because that's not what anyone is looking for. (Ugh, if only it were that easy.) That would be the definition of telling us the story, rather than showing it. I don't think that sjm is the queen of showing - in fact I think that she tells quite a bit. But in this scene, Sarah Rhys asks Azriel three times about what he thinks or feels towards Elain/Mor, and Azriel refuses to answer. And at a moment like this, of all moments? When he knows that Rhys is pissed at him and has said to not go near her? He has nothing better to say than deflection??
Azriel ignored the question. "The Cauldron chose three sisters. Tell me how it's possible that my two brothers are with two of those sisters, yet the third was given to another." He had never before dared speak the words aloud.
Rhys's face drained of color. "You believe you deserve to be her mate?"
That just reinforces that it's not about Elain at all. And it's certainly not about his feelings for her, because the slightest hint to Rhys that Azriel had feelings, and Rhys would have changed his tune. Rhys knows Azriel better than anyone else, except maybe Cassian. And even Rhys's face lost color, as you noted, when he heard how Azriel was talking about Elain (or refusing to, rather). He was disturbed. And a literal mind reader as you also pointed out. Rhys knows what’s up.
Damn. That might be the best argument I’ve seen. Rhys visibly paled! He probably doesn’t recognise this az, or he hasn’t been looking hard enough.
We also have to remember that while the brothers seemed to slip into old patterns when Rhys returned from UtM that Azriel had had 50years to brood in Velaris, trapped, he couldn’t be a spy, couldn’t do what he spent his whole life doing… maybe there is more to him being “not himself” than we realise. and maybe, just maybe Rhys hasn’t looked too hard at his friends, expecting everything to stay the same and was now only just realising this fact.
Okay, as someone who has been in the "Rhys was out of line" court, this is a great argument. My concern comes less for Azriel's feelings than Elain's though. If she wants to be with Az, even if he is being a jackass, then her agency in that decision should matter.
Rhys should have spoken to Elain, at the very least. Elain is consistently infantilized by the IC and her sisters. She's treated as a pretty doll with just as much agency, which is wrong.
I'm not an Elriel shipper and I'm not even a huge fan of Elain, but I still think she should be involved in decisions about her body and her sex life and her relationships.
If my brother-in-law warned off one of his friends from dating me, a friend that I had a mutual attraction to, I would be so upset. If he had concerns FOR me, then I would want him to bring them TO me. Instead, Elain is just left feeling suddenly pushed away and left to wonder what *she* might have done wrong.
That's where Rhys is out of line, in my opinion.
I think Rhys has a nasty habit of making decisions for other people that he thinks is for the best. He does it with Feyre's pregnancy, with Nesta's abilities, with Mor's insecurities regarding Eris and her father. (And Mor's was the only one that was really heavily influenced by his making hard choices because of his status).
But I agree that as far as Azriel goes, Rhys was not out of line. It was where Elain is concerned that I get frustrated.
@iserenademefan I can see what your saying but essentially he is doing that. He is telling his friend azriel to stay away from her because he’s also concerned for his friend. Yes he frames it as protecting elain but I don’t think he could tell az - “I don’t think this is the right fit for you because that’s not really how you should be thinking about a relationship” without az walking out and not coming back.
And I was also in the - how dare rhys say that, but also it didn’t surprise me because rhys is um…. Very um…. I dunno how to say it. He thinks about himself and his court first and family relationships second? Feyre it too because she directly relates to him loving her and that’s about him.
I also am meh on elain and her ships. I want to be into her but I’m not. I’ll still read and see where it goes though. I’m also not anti her which I borderline was in the past when elain and nesta were out against eachother.
The thing that gets me is - there is no right and wrong. These characters all have their own motivations and world view for doing things. We saw azriels motivations and yeah if I was az I’d be pissed at rhys to. How dare he think to command my love life!
If I was elain I wouldn’t have any idea it happened. 🤷♀️ so how can I react to something I don’t know. To me it might just be azriel seems less into me. if it came out later in the story or someone told elain then yeah she has every right to get pissed. Because she would know what they are doing.
None of these characters are omniscient. They can’t know everything that happens and can only react to what they know which is also important to remember. Sometimes theories will tell us what elain was thinking but we don’t have her POV or entered her head via rhys or feyre. We just don’t know. We do know about az.
(Long ask btw)
Coming from someone who was quite neutral on the ships until the bonus chapter (Azriel and Elain had there moments and Gwyn was a nice addition but the actual book didn’t seem to have that much of a romantic coding between them), I find it rather odd when people say Rhys was out of line. Even though I’m not the biggest fan of Rhys (especially during ACOSF) I found his action reasonable and not just in a High Lord to subject power dynamic. I think a lot of people were rushing to finish the chapter and see what was going to happen next, that they didn’t bother to see the reasons of Rhysand’s actions beyond the answer he stated.
Before he even told Azriel he couldn’t go after Elain he asked many questions to his brother. “What are your plans?” We see in Azriel’s mind he admits he hadn’t thought past his sexual fantasies. “What about Mor?” Azriel ignores this question and rather talks about how The third sister was given (not meant, but given like some object) to another. “You think you deserve her?” (Important to note that Rhys visibly pales here I believe) Rather than answer that very important question Azriel speaks on behalf of Elain to say she doesn’t want Lucien (which we don’t truly know as we don’t have her POV).
It is then and only then after those 3 vital questions-questions that should be convincing us that Azriel and Elain are supposed to be together- go completely ignored that Rhys tells Azriel to stay away from Elain. People seem to forget that these two are brothers. It was obvious to me that Rhys saw something amiss with Azriel (as seen with his reactions to Azriel’s responses) and from there told him to stay away. It was from the aspect of a High Lord to his subject and one brother to another that Rhys came from. Azriel is a toxic character right now and Rhys, his brother who has know him for 500 years and who is a literal mind readers, knows that.
I would also like to add that it is canon that the brother beat the ever-living crap out of each other (like bleeding, bruises, black eyes, etc) when they are mad, yet telling the other to not pursue a girl who they clearly put on a pedestal, who they only care sexually about, who they think they are entitled to, is where y’all draw the line????
This ask is one of the most valid things I've ever read.
We've all been so concerned about what Azriel did or didn't say, that we haven't thought about whether or not he was given the opportunity, or was allowed an opening, to talk about how he feels about Elain. And he was given that opportunity, explicitly.
All of those are important questions, and they aren't straight-up "how do you feel about her" because that's not what anyone is looking for. (Ugh, if only it were that easy.) That would be the definition of telling us the story, rather than showing it. I don't think that sjm is the queen of showing - in fact I think that she tells quite a bit. But in this scene, Sarah Rhys asks Azriel three times about what he thinks or feels towards Elain/Mor, and Azriel refuses to answer. And at a moment like this, of all moments? When he knows that Rhys is pissed at him and has said to not go near her? He has nothing better to say than deflection??
Azriel ignored the question. "The Cauldron chose three sisters. Tell me how it's possible that my two brothers are with two of those sisters, yet the third was given to another." He had never before dared speak the words aloud.
Rhys's face drained of color. "You believe you deserve to be her mate?"
That just reinforces that it's not about Elain at all. And it's certainly not about his feelings for her, because the slightest hint to Rhys that Azriel had feelings, and Rhys would have changed his tune. Rhys knows Azriel better than anyone else, except maybe Cassian. And even Rhys's face lost color, as you noted, when he heard how Azriel was talking about Elain (or refusing to, rather). He was disturbed. And a literal mind reader as you also pointed out. Rhys knows what’s up.
Damn. That might be the best argument I’ve seen. Rhys visibly paled! He probably doesn’t recognise this az, or he hasn’t been looking hard enough.
We also have to remember that while the brothers seemed to slip into old patterns when Rhys returned from UtM that Azriel had had 50years to brood in Velaris, trapped, he couldn’t be a spy, couldn’t do what he spent his whole life doing… maybe there is more to him being “not himself” than we realise. and maybe, just maybe Rhys hasn’t looked too hard at his friends, expecting everything to stay the same and was now only just realising this fact.