people be fucking normal abt ftm bottom surgery challenge.
None of the commenters are gonna see this, but! If anyone’s interested in meta or phalloplasty but is kind of on the fence because they’ve only heard Terrible Wretched Things about the surgeries and results, you should try to find a copy of Hung Jury by Trystan T. Cotten! It’s a collection of testimonials from FtMs who have had bottom surgery, including their reasons, details about some of their procedures, and individual satisfaction ratings, and it includes testimonials from several trans men of color!
This is the book that convinced a buddy of mine to go through with metoidioplasty! I pinky promise, the surgeries are way way way better and safer and more effective than we’ve been made to believe they are. If it’s a procedure you want/need for your health and happiness, it’s a procedure you deserve!
LITERALLY THIS!!!!!! ppl are just parroting what they hear and they’ve been saying the same shit for decades. news flash assholes!!!! if you actually do your research, you’ll find it has gotten better!!!! what you mean is that bottom surgery won’t make you cis, and that is not the fault of bottom surgery.
I'm sure it's progressed in 20 years but when I'm in multiple FTM trans groups and seeing multiple posts from guys who've been basically butchered, including several who have had it just straight up reject and fall off, you bet your ass I'm not spending thousands of dollars to get bottom surgery. It's just not worth it to me.
“my information is decades out of date but i’m still gonna fearmonger anyway.”
I highly recommend that anyone considering a phalloplasty checks out this site
It goes into detail about everything from different types of procedures, to preparations, to recovery, and to risks.
I've found it extremely helpful while I was looking over my options because they don't just vaguely warn you about potential complications; they explain them in depth with the goal of informing you rather than dissuading you.
I think one of the most important takeaways I found here is this section:
The phalloplasty has come a really long way since it was first preformed (almost 100 years ago, I believe!) and complications are a risk with any surgery. Phallo has higher complication rates, sure, but it also boasts a very high satisfaction rate--higher than that of people who have undergone cardiac surgery. And regardless of all of this, shaming people or calling transmasc surgeries "butchering" or "invasive" or "dangerous" is kind of awful actually.
(There's also a similar site for people considering metoidioplasty too!)
https://www.metoidioplasty.net/
@defilerwyrm this seems relevant to your interests
”Don’t fuck up perfectly good parts” is so fucking transphobic you could have taken it right out of any given TERF’s larvae-filled, shit-encrusted mouth.
They’re NOT “perfectly good.” Not for those of us with bottom dysphoria. They’re parts that SHOULDN’T BE THERE. They’re parts that SHOULD BE DIFFERENT. And modern medicine can make that happen.
“Doesn’t even work” I can fuck both your parents with it one after another, shut the fuck up. You can piss with it. You can fuck with it. You can orgasm with it. What else do you want, a song and a dance?
“Doesn’t look like the real thing” if it’s like 2 months post-op maybe?? Babydoll there were SCADS of cis gay men biting their lower lips at my phalloplasty cock at the nude beach. One did an honest-to-god double take complete with jaw drop. And once I get my baculum (by which I mean erectile implant) in December, I’ll be able to put it in any damn position I please. Partner likes ‘em straight out? No problem! Partner likes an upward curve? Can do! Show me a cis man who can fucking do THAT.
BUT WAIT, THEY EXIST. Because phalloplasty and erectile implants and testicular implants are done for cis men, too. Do you think THEY’D rather have no dick instead?
You say don’t want phallo because it doesn’t give you a cis dick. I hear “I’d rather wallow in misery and self-pity because chasers and other transphobes have convinced me that I should not have my body altered from the parts they want to fuck.” I hear “I have been duped into parroting genital essentialist transphobic bullshit by cryptoconservatives.”
I love my dick. This is a $135,000 cock—I saw the bill. It’s QUALITY. And it fucking ERASED my dysphoria. Do I wish it worked like a cis man’s penis? Do I wish I had a foreskin? Of fucking course I do! But you know what I never fuckin’ find myself thinking after bringing myself off is “Gosh I sure wish my hand, pubes, genitals, and sheets were covered in rapidly-concealing jizz.” If it were possible to go back to my original configuration, there is no universe in which I would EVER consider doing that for a PICOSECOND.
The most common complication is a fistula. GUESS WHAT. THEY USUALLY HEAL UP ON THEIR OWN. MINE DID.
With a nebula-sized fuck-you to the transphobic cis gay who coined the term on LJ 20 years ago and discouraged the fuck out of me for ever getting bottom surgery, this “dick roll-up” is so much better than my OEM parts they’re not in the same fucking universe for comparison. They are on different levels of reality apart.
Stop parroting TERF rhetoric to yourselves and your brothers. Not all of us have bottom dysphoria, but for those of us who do, BOTTOM SURGERY IS FUCKING AWESOME AS ALL HELL.
The funny thing about Hung Jury is that the guys in that who got phallo literally talk about hearing the exact same shit people say today about phallo. Like verbatim:
"He described them as, “at best…a tube of skin and meat hanging between their legs.” He testified that a constructed phallus cannot function sexually like a penis, is incapable of erection, and has no sensitivity. He stated that he had never seen a phalloplasty that looked like a real penis and that its appearance may worsen over time, so that it becomes “kind of flaccid and wrinkled up [like a] piece of—to me I think it looks like a dried up cucumber.”"
"During my research of hormones, legal hoops, and surgeries, I’d continuously come across comments and information on how phalloplasty for transmen left something to be desired. Descriptions such as “mangled flesh,” “frankendick,” and “they fall off” were frequent. Most of these comments came from fellow transmen."
"Because my exposure to phalloplasty procedures was limited, I could not have imagined how talented the plastic surgeon who performed my surgery would be, nor how realistic my penis would look, feel and function. I had heard many of the common remarks: Phalloplasty provides an insensate organ barely approximating a penis; or, If you’re going to get bottom surgery, it’s better to get a metoidioplasty, because at least you’ll have sensation and a natural erection, even if it is rather small."
There's also this:
"I remember hearing one man speaking about how in the first few years of his transition he felt like he had been convinced having a penis was unnecessary, because he met so many trans men who told him that “the penis does not make the man,” yet he ended up feeling otherwise. He eventually did come to feel that in order for him to live more fully as a man, he needed to have a penis, but he felt like the most opportune time had passed him by: he believed he was now too old, too broke and too sick. He was angry that so many of his trans-brothers had dissuaded him from seriously considering the procedure, considering the importance it would end up being for him. He questioned why these men had cared so much about the issue, why had they felt the need to criticize other trans men who opted for genital reconstruction. He wondered how they could be experts on a topic they had never experienced personally."
It's been over a decade since this book was published. People with little knowledge about the actual process or experience of phalloplasty have been saying the same exact things about it for decades.
In addition to seconding Hung Jury, might I also recommend the photography of Loren Cameron. A trans man himself, his collection Body Alchemy has beautiful pictures of trans male bodies, including photos of metoidioplasty and phalloplasty. The book is older, from 1996, but it shows that it was good then, so why shouldn't it be good, or better, now.