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Mundane America. Broken pole with rope and an American Flag. Cincinnati, Ohio.

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gaslampsglow

Wait.  Wait.

Wait.

I know that telephone pole.

I know that telephone pole intimately because I’m the one who broke it.

Thats the pole next to Sycamore Jr. High, in between the jr high school and Pipkins, where I had my second car accident.  A woman t-boned my car and drove me into that pole in 2008 and it took them years to actually take it down.

That black metal pole you see just beyond the broken phone pole is a “Now Leaving/Welcome To Blue Ash, Ohio” sign, visible at 5520 Cooper Road on google maps.

(the flag is there, btw, because its the starting point for the Blue Ash/Montgomery July 4th parade.)

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nehirose

The internet is so staggeringly immense that I can’t help but be disproportionately delighted when things like this happen.

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flagellant

I truly don't have any words about what's happening in Ohio right now. I want to post something like I usually do. Give vocabulary, etc, whatnot. It's important, it's so important. But I don't have words. What could I possibly say about the level of devastation that has happened, is happening, will happen in the future? This is worse than the BP spill. And I don't know how to respond to that with anything other than a shocked numbness.

There has been a complete media black out regarding the catastrophic and deadly environmental disaster currently happening in Ohio right now, which began a full week ago at time of writing.

A train filled with extremely toxic and reactive chemicals, specifically vinyl chloride, was derailed. A cloud of poisonous chemicals has sprouted and since the cloud is heavier-than-air, it will persist to continue to travel downwind, polluting the atmosphere and environment of everything it touches. All pets will die. Reaching the Mississippi will completely eradicate the safety of all its waters from that point and everywhere downstream. Creeks are already filled with dead fish which the Ohio government claims is not to be worried about. The entire state's soils and ecosystems will be contaminated to deadly carcinogenic levels for the rest of all our lives and far beyond it. If and when it reaches the Gulf of Mexico the currents will carry its poisons globally.

I wish I could say anything of hope right now. I wish I could even say I'm angry. But I'm not right now. I just feel numb. The scale of this is just so beyond anything I can comprehend and there's an explicit and purposeful refusal to report on this.

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tarilaran

Article discussing some of the safety concerns:

While vinyl chloride itself is a carcinogen, the burning of the chemical, which releases hydrogen chloride and phosgene, can be immediately lethal. Phosgene, a highly toxic, colorless gas with a strong odor, was notoriously used as a weapon during World War I.

Another article:

Meanwhile, the crash site was leaching other hazardous materials besides vinyl chloride. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) says they seeped into surrounding waterways, and “were immediately toxic to fish”—though it added that “actions were taken to minimize that.” The agency has assured the public that, the poor aquatic life’s fate notwithstanding, everybody’s drinking water was “protected.”

Yesterday [Feb 9 2023], the agency announced that the air in East Palestine was finally deemed safe enough for residents to return.

The oldest source I can find discussing this is from Feb 8.

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ms-demeanor

Here is the New York Times reporting on this on February 4th.

Here are NBC and The Daily Beast reporting on this on February 5th.

Here are People Magazine, the Sacramento Bee, The Daily Beast again, CBS News, Reuters, and Reuters again reporting on this on February 6th.

Here is CNN reporting on it on February 7th.

The EPA response profile has been active and updating since February 4th.

I want to preface this by saying THIS IS NOT GOOD, and we shouldn't act like nothing is happening. This is bad. This is a serious environmental disaster. There are currently risks to humans and animals, and risks to humans and animals will be ongoing for quite some time at various levels.

However I think that "this will kill all the pets in the area and will lay a swathe of poison from Ohio to Mexico, burning the world between" is perhaps something of an overstatement and I'm aware that folks are upset about this but holy shit let's please try not to catastrophize the catastrophe.

The purpose of an intentional burn at the site was as a containment measure, because it is better to temporarily have extremely toxic chemical byproducts in an evacuated area than it is to allow an extremely carcinogenic chemical to slowly disperse.

There was a similar chemical spill in New Jersey in 2012 (still not a good thing! Not something that we should let go lightly!) and it did not result in "all pets dying" or a mass poisoning of rivers and streams.

Here is the DHHS Toxological Profile for Vinyl Chloride, a nearly 300-page document that goes over risk factors and harms caused by the chemical. Given the tone of the original post, here's what people probably want to see right now:

At the moment, there appears to be one man who claims that his pet fox died as a result of exposure to the vinyl chloride, and it sickened some of his other pets. There is some discussion of dead chickens and one dead hawk was found. Dead fish were found in some bodies of water, and the EPA is monitoring other bodies and has issued directives for dams and spillovers to collect chemical runoff to prevent as much downstream contamination as possible. At the moment, it is very difficult to say whether there will be a significant amount of acute animal deaths (wild or domesticated) as a result of this, though I would guess there will be a very significant increase of cancer in the area in the coming years.

One reporter at a press conference from the Ohio governor was arrested, he has been released and the AG's office is investigating his arrest. There are a lot of photos of the derailment and its consequences on social media and other news websites, and it does not appear that anyone is preventing people from taking or sharing photos of the disaster.

Look. I am not someone who thinks that you should blindly trust the government. There are huge issues here. This is a disaster that happened for a number of reasons, many of which are related to absolute shit regulation of chemical transportation and which were probably exacerbated by overworked railroad employees who got fucked over for the sake of the economy in December. There is bad shit here that is worthy of criticism, there are legitimate things to be concerned about.

But just because I don't trust the government doesn't mean I think it's a better idea to trust a shitpost account on twitter that provided "evidence" in the form of an instagram account posting screenshots of text messages from one guy who had a collection of exotic animals he wasn't able to retrieve from the evacuation area and a tiktok video.

There are definitely things to worry about with this, but please don't panic.

Also look, if the news is too miserable and you don't want to look at it too much but you want to at least pretend to stay informed, the Daily Beast's Cheat Sheet is a constant stream of paragraph-long reports on breaking news. Two of the stories I linked up above are from the Cheat Sheet. Just. Keep it open in a browser tab and check headlines once a day, okay? This has been news for an entire week, if People Magazine is doing human interest stories on it there isn't a media blackout please don't get your news from twitter or tumblr please I am begging you.

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dykecostanza

in general i agree that encouraging unsourced twitter hysteria is a bad thing but there is absolutely a media blackout happening in ohio rn and posting links to the occasional news article about it doesnt necessarily disprove that. this is a major, entirely man-made and preventable environmental catastrophe that should be plastered across the news 24/7 but that didnt even get 10 minutes of weekend coverage on the most “left” liberal channels like pbs. this shit is being actively sidelined by alien balloon hysteria bc it’s a direct result of the conditions rail workers were set to strike over until the millionaire railroad bosses colluded with biden and congress to forcibly prevent them from doing so. the fact that people in east palestine are being told everything is safe and fine while fish float up dead in their rivers and streams is not invention or overstatement. meanwhile buttigieg still hasnt said shit about any of this and apparently has no plans to reinstate baseline safety regulations to prevent this from happening again in the future.

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radioactive waste from nuclear power: ok spend 40 years and who knows how much money proving that putting it a kilometre under-fucking-ground will not release more radiation than background in the worst-case scenario, for 100000 years, and maybe we'll stop sandbagging and let you build it

radioactive waste from oil and gas: eh whatever bro just dump it in fucking landfills and rivers, who give a shit

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archdemoning

This makes me so so SO fucking mad you're telling me that the fucking RADON that POISONED my grandma and gave her LUNG CANCER and KILLED HER is because of FRACKING? I DROVE PAST A FRACKING OPERATION EVERY TIME I WENT TO VISIT HER. Fucking doctors told us that radon gas just HAPPENED to be seeping up through the basement because that just happens in Ohio sometimes! IT WAS BECAUSE FRACKING PUT THE GOD DAMN RADON IN THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

AND. IN THE GOD DAMN MEANTIME. Because of the gas prices I've been seeing POLITICAL ADS talking about INCREASING LOCAL FRACKING OPERATIONS I AM SO FUCKING LIVID

doctors told us that radon gas just HAPPENED to be seeping up through the basement because that just happens in Ohio sometimes!

well, that is the case. some rocks have radon gas trapped in them which leaks out over time. if you build a house from or on such rocks it might have dangerous levels of radon gas in it. however, fracking essentially crushes rocks underground to release trapped gas. if that includes radon then it gets into the wastewater (called "brine") from the fracking well so... sometimes the ground gives you radiation poisoning, but fracking is basically digging that poison up to make cancer juice.

the fracking might not have poisoned your grandma but even if they didn't they probably hurt someone else. you can read about some cases in this article

In the summer of 2017, Siri Lawson noticed a group of Amish girls walking down the side of a dirt road near the horse farm where she lives with her husband in Farmington Township, Pennsylvania. The girls, dressed in aprons and blue bonnets, had taken off their shoes and were walking barefoot. Lawson was horrified. She knew the road had been freshly laced with brine.
Radioactive oil-and-gas waste is purposely spread on roadways around the country. The industry pawns off brine — offering it for free — on rural townships that use the salty solution as a winter de-icer and, in the summertime, as a dust tamper on unpaved roads.
Brine-spreading is legal in 13 states, including the Dakotas, Colorado, much of the Upper Midwest, northern Appalachia, and New York. In 2016 alone, 11 million gallons of oil-field brine were spread on roads in Pennsylvania, and 96 percent was spread in townships in the state’s remote northwestern corner, where Lawson lives. Much of the brine is spread for dust control in summer, when contractors pick  up the waste directly at the wellhead, says Lawson, then head to Farmington to douse roads. On a single day in August 2017, 15,300 gallons of brine were reportedly spread.
“After Lindell Road got brined, I had a violent response,” reads Lawson’s comments in a 2017 lawsuit she brought against the state. “For nearly 10 days, especially when I got near the road, I reacted with excruciating eye, nose, and lung burning. My tongue swelled to the point my teeth left indentations. My sinus reacted with a profound overgrowth of polyps, actually preventing nose breathing.”
The oil-and-gas industry has “found a legal way to dispose of waste,” says Lawson, 65, who worked as a horse trainer but is no longer able to ride professionally because of her illnesses. Sitting in her dining room, surrounded by pictures she has taken to document the contamination — brine running down the side of a road, an Amish woman lifting her dress to avoid being sprayed — she tells me the brine is spread regularly on roads that abut cornfields, cow pastures, and trees tapped for maple syrup sold at a local farmer’s market.
“There is nothing to remediate it with,” says Avner Vengosh, a Duke University geochemist. “The high radioactivity in the soil at some of these sites will stay forever.” Radium-226 has a half-life of 1,600 years. The level of uptake into agricultural crops grown in contaminated soil is unknown because it hasn’t been adequately studied.

Ohio is one of the states where brine-spreading is legal, so if that was done near your grandma's house, yeah, it very well might have been fracking that poisoned her.

Yeah a well-kept secret of oil gas and coal is that they produce more nuclear waste per kilowatt of electricity than nuclear energy does.

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