me if I was a magical girl named webby
i'm a sucker for that one trope in cartoons where a character sees the younger version of their loved one (bonus points if they also interact with it because that's just *chefs kiss*)
please please PLEASE do more of this
Hilda and Young Johanna
discovered by every1luvsmari07 on Instagram
this is the best visual gag i've ever seen
Same energy
I hope you haven’t forgotten what an important day it is
Webby’s Family
Okay, I’m posting about spoiler-y Ducktales stuff early again because I feel like I need to address and talk about this.
First of all, I absolutely loved the finale, I cried a lot, I think they still really drove home and kept the themes of family, including found family, very strong– I don’t think Webby being genetically derived from Scrooge changes that at all. I believe there were a lot of hints at this nearly from the beginning; the question was if they would be able to pull it off and I think they did. What particularly sticks out to me is not only Webby’s whole speech to June and May about everything she’d learned about family through the course of the entire series from the people she cared about, and her own journey of finding her place, but also what reinforces the fact that Webby’s story being a story about found family is that, being related genetically does not automatically make you family. Case and point: June and May are also, genetically related to Scrooge, but the scroll would not appear for them, and the difference between Webby and her clones is that Webby’s relationship to Scrooge and the Duck family is ACTUALLY familial. Webby choosing, Scrooge and everyone else as being her family is in fact an active rejection of the typical expectation of biological family in the case of Black Heron who actually made them. Black Heron is not her mom or her family. Webby actively rejected FOWL, the place where she came from in this finale, and in the beginning it was Beakley’s choice to take Webby in, and save her from where she came from. Calling Scrooge “Dad” did feel a little weird to me, but actually, hold on here. Scrooge was never told Webby is a genetic clone from him in the context of the finale. When Webby calls him “Dad” what breaks Scrooge is not finding out she’s related to him– Webby being a test tube baby from Scrooge actually changes NOTHING about her familial relationships, because the whole point is they were already family. The only difference now is Scrooge and Webby are closer, and the reason for that, and Scrooge breaking down is that when Webby called him “dad” it read as a choice. In that moment, Webby didn’t tell Scrooge she’s a clone of him, she told Scrooge she accepts him as a parental figure– the exchange between them is an agreement to fully embody this familial relationship. And, I don’t know what Webby may have been really saying, but when she turned to Beakley as she walked away, and was crying, it really sounded to me like she said “mom”, and again– Beakley has no biological relation to her at all, but Webby says in that moment that she still wants her to be a part of her family, Beakley is and always has been her family.
In the end of the finale, Webby’s character arc finally comes to completion– finding out she was created by FOWL caused a panic of identity, but she ultimately settles with an even greater confidence than before that she truly knows who she is, and that she finally feels she has found a family of her own. If anything, knowing where she came from has given Webby an even greater confidence in herself for choosing the family that matters to her, and a greater sense of security in that, knowing her family has chosen her again and again.
The only stumbling block I think there was in this episode was the “sister” comment between Team Magic. In all seriousness, the comment itself seemed so out of place and weird for the context of everything we know about Team Magic’s relationship, but I actually feel that it haunted me still. Soup made a full comment on how the comment actually makes far more sense when read in reference to being a sisterhood or coven, which Team Magic actually is, and there have been multiple comments from staff members that many of them do in fact see Webby and Lena reading as baby gays, but to be honest the comment still bothered me.
In the course of me falling in love with this show, Webby and Lena have grown to be something I hold very close to my heart. How much I saw myself in Lena and her struggles made me feel seen, and seeing her growth as a person and her relationships made me feel like that was possible for me too. Also, her now goth magic girl aesthetic is 100% badass. Suffice to say, Lena is a character that means a lot to me– she’s basically exactly how I was or wanted to be when I was her age at the beginning of her arc, and being able to see her growth and find her sense of place and family has given me an idea of what those type of goals look like since that is still something I’m working on. Recently coming to the realization I’m a nonbinary lesbian, I’ve been on this whole thing of wanting to surround myself with people and content that make me feel seen and reflect back to me what I see in myself, and as a part of all of this I’ve become so much more immersed in learning about people like me, and lgbt representation and history. So maybe this came at a time that affected me a lot more than it probably should have, because the “sisters” comment brought to mind every other failing of lgbt representation that I’d seen. There are so very little things that the lgbt community gets to have. More often than not, we are censored or sidelined into oblivion, made to be evil, or killed. I celebrated and greatly appreciate the successes we have had, and in respects to this show, the subtext we were rewarded with in Penny being confirmed a lesbian, and the coding of her relationship with Della, but it’s still subtext, and it’s still disney, it all makes sense in a sort of gut turning way that of course they won’t just let us have things.
As far as subtext goes when we get our representation, Lena and Webby are just subtextually gay, and very well written for that context. There’s a reason so many lgbt people see that and it’s because when we saw the way they interact that reminded all of us what we were like as gay little kids. Webby and Lena were ultimately very sort of mishandled in the context of that representation though. After season 1, they dropped all the terms of endearment Webby had used for Lena the season before, and then where we finally get to season 3 and the finale, it sort of came across as a final discarding of that representation, just like, as such an offhanded thing even. I get that was probably not the intention of the writers, but it still comes across that way– the comment just wasn’t necessary. I am aware that there may have been significant pressure to change the way these characters were written, but that doesn’t really change how much it sucks that lgbt people can’t be treated with decency even in fiction. In regards to literally every single other moment of the series, the “sisters” comment was clearly an insert of some kind, and maybe it did serve a little to hammer over the head the whole theme of found family the finale had going, or a direct response to Webby in the moment wondering if her then presumably evil clones were part of her family– the comment in this context ultimately comes to mean how a close group can be called a brotherhood or sisterhood. Soup’s already explained this at length. In the episode itself too, Webby’s family board distinctly has “shadow friends” signifying her relationship with Lena, much in the way that “❤️Best friends!❤️“ between Penny and Della was in a gay way. Lena and Webby have been through a lot, and their relationship is distinctly different from that between Lena and Violet– Webby and Lena are not siblings, and they do not see each other as that. Webby does not treat or see Lena the same way she does her brothers. I think the best synonymous description of that comment is that they are a coven– that’s what Team Magic is after all.
My point of getting into all of this is that for one I wanted to talk about it, but also this will be my last comment on the subject. My concern, is that in the aftermath of this, this is going to be a Thing ™ in some new shipping war or whatever where people that are upset by the idea of lgbt people identifying with and enjoying the narratives of lgbt characters where we can are going to try and use this as fuel to say the ship is invalid or whatever (very ironic provided most of the people I’ve seen do this in the past were hdlw shippers).
One very misguided understanding of moment between them does not negate the entire rest of the series, or even the scene immediately followed up with her board that says Lena and Violet are her friends, not siblings.
Among gays, we know the difference and what it looks like when we have an unexplainable fixation on our best friends when we’re still figuring things out– that is a distinctly gay experience, and seeing that represented between Webby and Lena in this series has been a delight and meant a lot to me, and is something I hold and enjoy still.
If you have questions, or accusations, I’m going to point you here, or to Sam King, or the other DT staff if they’ve made comments on this.
Not the official Season 3 artwork foreshadowing the credits scene. Nope🤯
OK so this is completely pointless but I’m doing it anyways
So we know that in season one the triplets are 10
and the series takes place in 2017 at that point
we know then that season two takes place in 2018 because of dewey mentioning he is 11 by the quote ““you owe me eleven years of turbo” during moonvasion
from this we can assume that season 3 takes place a year later in 2019 meaning they are twelve in season 3
meaning, if ducktales were taking place in 2021 the triplets would be 13 years old, turning 14 in april
that would also make launchpad 33 years old and scrooge 153 years old (the only two characters with confirmed years of birth)
this is all assuming that season one takes place in 2017
you are welcome for watching my brain needlessly think about this for a while
Ducktales giving kids an amazing story. Great plots, good morals, and now inclusion (the wheelchaired woodchuck and Violet’s parents). And one of the best remakes ever.
And for everyone who grew up watching 90’s afternoon cartoons, we’re getting all of that and the awesome surprise of great cameos and characters from other 90’s Disney cartoons.
Darkwing Duck. My favourite cameo.
Goof Troop Goofy, PJ, and the amazing nod to teenage Max and Roxanne from A Goofy Movie.
Don Karnage from Tailspin.
The Three Caballeros.
Gummy Bears.
The original Ducktales outfits in the Quack Pack episode.
Also the nod to the Quack Pack series.
And Gene the Genie from Ducktales the Movie.
There’s so much more I haven’t listed and we should expect a lot more. Like Daisy Duck finally making an appearance in Ducktales. Goofy and Daisy being the first Mickey Mouse clubhouse characters to ever make an appearance in Ducktales, unless you count watermelon Mickey (voice by the actual Mickey Mouse VA). Also, Goslyn from Darkwing Duck, more Tailspin characters, and Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers. I can’t wait.
There’s also this amazing reference to the actual Camp Woodchuck Kitchen at Disneyland Tokyo.
Plus, now a Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers cameo! And good ol Daisy, thankfully not just a cameo!
I don’t know why we’re suddenly getting good reboots now but I’m here for it!
By the way have your heard Tiny Toons is coming back?
And just like that, my standards for how a guy should treat me have been raised.
Ducktales is really surpassed voting and is number 2 on trending... not complaining tho ✨
I hate that Donald and Daisy are usually portrayed as the “always fighting/arguing” couple. So to see them portrayed in DT17 in a caring relationship really makes me happy. There’s so much positivity and the message it sends to kids will make a whole difference on how they view how a healthy relationship should be. And I’m completely here for it.
Also, Donald and Daisy deserves to be happy.