So... I think anyone whose seen me post recently can guess where im going w/ this but uh... Sanders sides pokemon au anyone...?
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(So far all im rly decided on is that Logan is a shiny lucario and Patton is a normal, if abnormally cheery and friendly, lucario and that they've been practically inseparable since they were riolu. They wont allow themselves to be caught by any trainer that isnt willing to catch them both and keep them together indefinitely. Romantic Logicality? Romantic Logicality.)
Then again it doesnt rly *have* to be patton, it just felt like it fit. I just rly want Logan, the shiny lucario thats a bit on the small side, and his larger normal lucario friend/brother/lover ready to throw down w/ other pokemon at a moments notice to keep Logan safe lol
Also, another idea I had was the creativities as twin charizards(actually from the same egg/nest, but one is shiny. Perferably remus, because a shiny charmander becomes a badass grey charizard instead of its usual firey orange/red, but the preevolutions are only differenciated by a slightly duller orange, which feels fitting for remus ig? Plus twins with fire equals chaos lol)
(That and i can totally see remus being infatuated w/ Janus who is an entirely different pokemon and literally 100% uncaring of it lol)
Ooh, I love these! What do you think Janus and Virgil would be? I could see them being another piar of the same Pokemon, but I'm not sure what Pokemon they would both be if that was true...
There are a few options for that alone, but idk yet if id be thrilled to do 3 sets of the same 2 pokemon instead of 6 pokemon(even if I was the one to decide on twin charmanders, but to be fair, whether patton is a normal lucario or some other pokemon is still slightly up in the air in all honesty for that reason)
But some ideas were vulpix(Janus) and alolan vulpix(Virgil), or Gallade(Virgil) and Gaudivoir(Janus).
Its smyh im still doing research on bc there are. So many pokemon
Hope you don’t mind but I’m a certified Pokémon crazy person and I have so many thoughts.
No listen, kanto & Alolan Ninetales works so well for Virgil and Janus since in universe both of these Pokémon can be so petty and cruel to everyone but they’re trainers. Like Kanto ninetails have literally cursed the shit out of ppl for touching/tugging on their tails and if that’s not so similar to how Janus immediately came for Roman’s whole blood line at the end of SvS Redux. Alolan Ninetales can also be cold and cruel and have killed ppl to protect their Vulpix cubs and that works for Virgil protector of the mind scape.
Additionally could I get you to consider Eevee brothers Janus and Virgil that evolve into Umbreon and Espeon? Like either evolution could work for either side; it’s perfect. Since umbreon fits Janus’ color scheme and they’re also poisonous for some reason and has such snake vibes. And you can only get an espeon with high friendship during the day and if that’s not the perfect analogy for how Anxiety is converted from a Dark to Light side. But the opposite can also be true since an alternate shiny Virgil umbreon getting dark purple markings instead of the traditional electric blue. Umbreon is literally a dark type Full filing Vee’s need to still be an edgy little shit but only after he’s been showered with love and affection and learning to work with Thomas instead of white knuckling the wheel. And Espeon is the perfect example of a smug af regal cat fox thing and if that’s not Janus’ whole vibe I don’t know what is.
....u are absolutely selling the eevee brothers bit so well lol
Some of the only reasons i was trying to avoid the eevees is bc I'm 100% obsessed with all the eeveelutions(to the point that I literally made a rule for my current save file that i wasnt allowed to have any on my main team list bc i knew i was never gonna get the whole pokedex, which is my current goal to get the shiny charm, if i didnt force myself to explore all the other pokemon available to make new favorites lol) and secondly because theres already and sanders sides au w/ all the sides as eeveelutions amd i wanna try and branch out differently yknow??
At the very least, if i went the Gallade route for Virgil, he'd probably be a shiny as well, and using the same suggestion of changing the blue color scheme to purple or at least periwinkle?
Someone also suggested patton being a legendary or mythical pokemon and i just wanna say yall have no idea how close i was to assigning Patton as a shiny mew or smth xD i lowkey had a strong af togepi named Patton leading my current run for most of the play through, and im trying not to be biased bc uh. Togekiss doesnt exactly keep it’s arms lol.
Ok fair I am also obsessed with eeveelutions.
Final thoughts before I leave you alone and stop bothering you and your fun brainstorming thread. To add on to the Mew Patton train: Consider shiny mew Patton that has been transforming/cosplaying a Lucario so long to hang out with Logan that he kinda forget he was a mew and Thomas’ pokedex couldn’t tell the difference until plot reasons strips the transform off. The heart wants what the heart wants I guess idk.
I don’t know much about the Ralts line because I never have the patience to wait for a shiny stone to explore all Gallade has to offer. But another submission for consideration to the Princeanxious midnight society, breaking the pair rule unfortunately, but like Absol Virgil with his egg brother Zorua/Zoroark Janus.
Need I say more fam? Probably not but I’ll do it anyway cause it’s 1am and I have off tomorrow. Canonically Absols are hated/disliked because people falsely blame them for causing disasters when really they’re jus trying to warn ppl. And Vee got a multi episode arc speeding running an Absol’s existence. (Also I love them because they hit like a truck and one rocking swords dance + metal claw/slash/shadow claw can kill even the thickest opposition.) also a shiny absol is kinda pinkish and if your fine with messing with color palettes we can jus bump that slider over into violet or something.
Janus ‘Deception’ Sanders as a Zoroark writes itself since Zorua and Zoroark are canonically so good at cosplaying other Pokémon and humans that you won’t even notice until you either punch it in the face super freaking hard or it decides to tell you. Like literally there’s an npc in the Unova games that’s a zorua that you don’t even notice unless you happen to have the specific Celebi it’s friends with to make it break character. The line is also really mischievous that they actively go out of they’re way to lie and prank ppl for fun. I mean Janus as a side isn’t the best at pretending to be other sides since he gets called out pretty quickly but that’s a fun quirk baby fox snake boy could have. Being vaguely terrible at his job of illusions until he evolves and gets hella good at it. (He regrets his lack of attention to detail until he literally grows up) And if we run with that other suggestion of Patton being a Mew, the absolute shenanigans that could happen since Janus and Virgil can tell Patton is mew cause dark type or whatever and Jan purposely takes the form of various off color mews in his effort to expose Patton.
Ohhh!!!! Honestly I was indeed considering absol for Virgil, but i didnt know enough about Zorua/Zorark to know whether they'd be a good fit for Janus as well?? (I've unfortunately only truely played a handful of pokemon games, my first being Diamond on DS and then not having any followup till i think Pokemon X & Y, then Lets Go Eevee? and only ever playing solo, so this is my first ever full pokedex run Dx so alot of my external knowledge comes from the bits and pieces of media ive been able to catch here and there unfortunately lol)
But pls I'm absolutely 100% here to hear about possiblities bc honestly im not nearly as well versed in pokemon as i wish i was xD
(Also, please go on about mew and it having a shapeshifting ability??? Mew Patton disguising itself as a normal lucario to spend time with his favorite shiny buddy??? Is that a plausible thing?? Because fricken hope it is??? Not only would that be hilarious and fitting but also completely adorable and I'm 100% on board to go with that??)
Master has given Dobby a sock. Dobby is free to info dump?
Lol but seriously; yes a huge part of Mew’s lore is that it and Ditto are the only two Pokémon that can learn Transform naturally. It’s a major plot point in the Pokémon movie Lucario and the mystery of Mew actually. Transform works pretty standard in the games where your ditto or mew simply takes the form of whatever opponent Pokémon it’s currently facing and gaining all the same moves while I believe keeping ditto/mew stats; and it jus stays looking like that until it gets knocked out.
In the anime and movie universe it’s been proven multiple times that a Mew can change to look like whatever the hell it wants, whenever it wants. Pokedex lore will tell you that it’s because Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon and thus the Arceus’ version of both Adam and Eve. And since Mew can learn every move in the game you wouldn’t necessarily know it was a Mew unless you saw it transform to begin with. I’m sure there are probably other ways to make Transform fail but the only one I know is fainting the copying Pokémon.
Your desire to have an abnormally cheerful Lucario would work jus fine as Patton being a mew transformed as a Lucario. Mew as a species in the anime seem to be super playful and cheerful 24/7. Hell trainer Thomas wouldn’t even notice if he met Patton and Logan at the same time and was under the impression he had two Lucario since Patton would be able to learn whatever Logan could and some things he “shouldn’t” but egg moves are a thing and Thomas wouldn’t be able to tell one way or the other.
Transform is super different from the Zorua line’s Illusion ability since the illusion only needs a connecting damaging move to bring it down. Also Zorua can only learn moves from its learnset and nothing else so it’s fairly obvious to tell an Illusion from a normal Pokémon just based on the moves it learns.
👀👀👀👀👀 so. I'm 100% going with patton as a (shiny)mew(because, blue) who kinda forgot they were a mew bc they've been chilling as a lucario to be w/ their s/o for so long??
I wanna say that logan has memories of glimpsing a mew way back when he was a young riolu, but it's fleeting and he figures its a distant dream. He makes little connection to the fact that he was soon after befriended by a normal riolu that he eventually became inseperable with. And it just furthers it that their adoration and trust for eachother was what helped them 'both' evolve into lucario.
If and when Logan does find out that Patton is a mew, I think he'd be a lil upset, but in the 'i love you as you are, I wish you would have told me sooner so i could have shown you that by now' way, and only bc Patton is devastated that Logan found out and terrified that Lo wont love him anymore now that he knows?
And thomas is just. In the background mentally like "I.. I have a mew. That is a Mew. I am the trainer to a fucking Mew. Holy shit.''
As for Virge and Jan, im still undecided bc i really like the idea of having a Gallade and Gardivoir (bc im biased and caught both back to back on chance encounters, and my Gallade Eden has been my ultimate false swipe lead in helping me finish up loose ends w/ my pokedex lol) but maybe I can table them for like. Emile and Remy or smth idk xD