Episode Analysis: Mr. Greg
I had so many thoughts about this episode and I’d had multiple drafts scrapped because i didn’t get a feel for how I wanted to discuss it until now. And then I suddenly realised I had to cover Rose Quartz’s character analysis before I could explore the themes of this episode. I decided this takes the form of an episode analysis, because it’s more than the songs. It’s the setting, the dialogue, the imagery, everything.
Coming off the episode, there are some pretty strong feelings from Greg and Pearl about Rose, and the relationships they have with each other, as well as their history. And I think caught in the middle of a context no one really let him into, though he totally deserves to know about his mother, is Steven.
There are several things we learn through the subtext of the musical episode as well, and I think some important storytelling tools helped us there, and I’ll be discussing that in this article. At the same time, there are some asks I’ll be integrating, because I feel they can best be answered in the context of this post.
With that said, let’s get going!
1. Rose is really gone, but that’s okay
I know I’m directly going to butt heads with those who believe Rose is making a comeback, and that she’s just retreated into Steven’s gem, but this to me is an aspect of the narrative that is not only necessary, but also holds a lot of truth.
One of the earliest posts I’d ever made was about characters and trauma. Steven has never met Rose, but that doesn’t mean trauma isn’t there. Trauma doesn’t have to cripple, though it most certainly can. Trauma can heal, but it can’t be healed over, because what happened will definitely have happened and can’t be undone.
Steven is surrounded by people who, everyday, have feelings and memories about his mother. They knew who she was and they could tell him everything about her, but that will never be equivalent to his actually meeting her. On top of that, there’s still an expectation for him to take up his mother’s mantle. In the episodes in which he can’t control his powers, or can't summon them at will, Steven is dejected, upset, and frustrated. Implicitly, he’s comparing himself to Rose. Gem Glow, An Indirect Kiss, House Guest, even Steven Floats. In these episodes, he lives out what he says in the extended opening, “I will fight to be everything that everybody wants me to be when I’m grown.”
The pressure isn’t because Steven wants to become Rose. But the people around him can’t help drawing parallels. And as a perceptive individual, Steven can feel he has to fill her shoes. It causes him stress and doubt at times.
As an audience, we feel for him. One way or another, some of us have lost loved ones. And one way or another, there’s a feeling that no words can ever explain that person’s being. Steven succinctly puts it in An Indirect Kiss:
Steven: It's just... I mean, I don't know how to feel about you, but everyone else does. I wish I could have met you then this place would make me sad, and I could cry healing tears, like you.
Note this: He wants to share their grief. He feels that never having met Rose alienates him from those he cares about. That’s not something you want a child growing up feeling.
And look at Greg and the gems. They’re torn up about Rose. I mentioned before that Greg and Amethyst trying to preserve their past with Rose as much as they can. We’ve seen Pearl overcome with grief multiple times, and now that we know more about Garnet, there’s no doubt she has feeling we haven’t heard about as well. The grieving process is different for everyone. The amount of time it takes to grieve is different as well. How someone grieves even more so.
Engaging the idea that Rose may just be in stasis in Steven’s gem, commonly cited evidence is Rose’s line from Lion 3: Straight to Video.
Rose: Steven, we can't both exist. I'm going to become half of you. And I need you to know that every moment you love being yourself, that's me, loving you and loving being you.
Or Pearl’s lament in Rose’s Scabbard
Pearl: Sometimes, you even sound like her... Do you remember this place? Do you have any of her memories? We were right here, over 5,000 years ago.
I get it. Gems store data. Steven has Rose’s gem, so Rose’s data must still be retrievable right? But that isn’t the case. Rose prepared for Steven’s arrival. She did the science. She experimented on plants and made gem hybrids. In the future I may talk about this some more, but I’m of the belief that she made lion in a similar way.
Steven is a new person. He isn’t Rose. And that’s why it was so uncomfortable when he told Greg and Pearl, “Just you, me, Pearl, and mom” and lifted his shirt to display his gem. He’s more than just half-Greg and half-Rose. He’s Steven. He was born a completely new individual. Rose’s information gave him his curly hair, his star eyes, his powers, his gem abilities, but she doesn’t live through him because that’s against everything Rose stands for.
Rose: Isn't it remarkable, Steven? This world is full of so many possibilities. Each living thing has an entirely unique experience. The sights they see, the sounds they hear. The lives they live are so complicated... a-and so simple. I can't wait for you to join them.
I mentioned in her character analysis how important individuality and choice was to her. That’s the entire reason she started the Rebellion, so gems would have choices. Why would she exert her influence on Steven’s life in any way? Her own son. It’s against her principles. She wants him to have a unique experience, not be Rose 2.0.
See, if Rose could come back, and she was just living in Steven’s gem, what would happen to Steven? They can’t both exist at the same time. Rose says this herself. That’s because like Rose, Steven does need his gem. He’s more than just the physical processes of a human being. He’s a gem too, and the entire season one was dedicated to proving that to us.
And if she did come back somehow, that wouldn’t make narrative sense. Why cause this much suffering and pain? Why draw it out for this long? What was the point of the grief if Rose was never really gone anyway. What do they gain from it? SU is a great show, because reality isn’t like the “conventional” nuclear family portrayed on many of the shows we grew up with. In reality, a lot of families have single parents, have multiple guardians raising a child, have extended families involved in one way or another. In reality, many people have lost loved ones.
Rose’s death is something that we can greatly identify with. And because SU strives to mirror the reality of relationships, what kind of message does it send should she manage to return? Because our lost loved ones aren’t coming back. But we say that’s okay, because we cope, we move forward, we honour their memories. That to me, is a more compelling narrative.
And after all the gains that everyone left behind has made in the show, these characters deserve the same respect. It’s faith in them that they can honour Rose, and cope, and move forward with her memory.
It’s devastating to have a character lost, especially because, like Steven, we’ve never met her. But the significance of her passing, to me, shows that even those who aren’t here exert a presence in our lives. And if we don’t have to take that negatively. We can be everything they wanted us to be and much more. We can go on living, because they worked hard to create a world that we could cherish every day. It’s this premise that moves the show. All the gems lost during the war deserve to be mourned as well, but it never ends with mourning. They fought to make lives better, as Rose did. To do them justice would be to work towards that world in the small ways that we can, which leads to the next point.
2. For all his progress, Greg is still healing
Something to appreciate is Greg’s decision to have Steven with Rose. Steven is obviously human. He needs to eat, sleep, go to the washroom, breathe, and a lot of other things. And he obviously looks like a young Greg too.
The thing is, Greg knew Rose couldn’t be with him to raise Steven. Greg knew that in beautiful irony, the half of their relationship who could technically live forever would be the one to pass away first. But he said yes.
And since then, Greg has continued to try and be the best father he could be, despite not having a lot of money, despite not having the gems’ support many times in the show, despite his sadness over losing Rose.
Greg has never resented Steven’s coming into the world as the reason for Rose’s passing. And of all his guardians, he talks about Rose more openly and candidly without being prompted by Steven. Most of the time, it seems as though Greg is okay already, but I think it’s fair that for most, nothing will ever heal over losing someone. Greg has not replaced Rose with Steven. He loves Steven dearly because he’s Steven, not because he’s Rose’s son.
Greg has allowed Steven to make his own choices. He didn’t push Steven to live with the gems and be trained by them. He made sure Steven really did want to do this. In the extended opening, he says, “Steven’s so excited to start living with you.” And in that same short, he’s there every night when Steven falls asleep. He wants Steven to feel that the latter can back out of this any time, that he has a choice.
Though I’ve mentioned before, Greg can still by hit by moments of sadness. His reaction in Laser Light Canon is a clear indicator. Talking about Rose to Steven in the storage unit was more or less fine. But when the canon fires in Rose’s image, that seemed to elicit a different emotion altogether. He cried.
We have different triggers for the ones we’ve lost, and this was clearly one of Greg’s. Greg is still healing, and what I really liked about Mr. Greg was that it addressed something big about his healing process: Much of it involves not engaging with Pearl.
To engage this ask, I’d like to talk about his healing.
Anonymous said:
Aw man. I agree with nearly everything on your Rose analysis post, including the obvious lack of balance in Pearl and Rose's relationship. And totally, Rose's emotional depth seemed to be sort of unlocked by Greg challenging her. But I really think that Rose's love for Pearl is meant to be interpreted in not just the motherly guiding friend way. It's not the same romantic depth as with Greg, but there's something spicier there. I just feel like I've gotta say this. I love your stuff though.
I agree. Something happened between Rose and Pearl that was “spicy.” My character analysis brought up how their relationship ended up, but in between, there were many possible things they could have tried. Because Rose and Pearl got along well. They were very intimate with one another, and in my post, I point out that Rose probably did tell Pearl a lot of things, enough for Pearl to feel like Rose’s sole confidante.
Greg knew this. And his banter with Pearl changed dramatically from We Need to Talk to how it is now. Back then, he would quip at her the same way she’d be snide with him.
Pearl: *over her shoulder* *swinging microphone* You're just a phase. You know that, right?
Greg: *exasperated sigh* No, I actually don't know that, Pearl.
Pearl: Oh, of course you don't. You don't know anything about Rose.
Greg: I know she's super into me!
This exchange happens before the titular talk, before things got serious. When did Greg say he and Pearl stopped getting along? In Mr. Greg he says he and Pearl hadn’t been on good terms since he started “dating” Rose. As in, it stopped being a phase. It stopped being like all the other men.
They weren’t on the best terms here, but Greg felt comfortable enough around Pearl to make fun of her. After this, he never calls her out again. Not even after she insults him in Wailing Stone, not after all the moments of doubt thrown straight into his face. Not even after he makes known that he heard Pearl singing “It’s Over.”
Greg feels he ruined things for Rose and Pearl. As a result, now he feels he doesn’t have the right to say or do anything to Pearl.
That’s a lot of emphasised words, I know, but it hearkens back to what he says in Mr. Greg.
Greg: Look, if I were you, I'd hate me too.
Pearl: I don't hate you.
Greg: But I knew how you felt about Rose, and I stayed anyway.
Pearl: That wasn't the problem.
This is significant, because it informs his actions, particularly, why he wasn’t confronting the things she was saying, when he was able to do so before. From his perspective, Pearl’s actions are more than looking down on humans, or not trusting him. He thinks actions are because she doesn’t like him personally, for what he did. He believes that she resents him for taking Rose away.
Whenever he sees Pearl, Greg would be reminded of the “wrong” he did. And that opens up a lot of what ifs in his mind. Greg is considerate, and he’s one to empathise with others. What if he didn’t interfere in the relationship? Would Rose have fallen in love with Pearl the way she did Greg? We know now that the answer is “probably not.” Rose had her preferences, and Pearl tried to be that. Pearl tore herself up competing with all the men who’d entered Rose’s life. She makes it a point to say, “I can sing too!” when Rose brings up Greg’s singing. Pearl was certain it was a contest, but that was never how Rose saw it. Rose wanted to love them both.
Greg knows now that it isn’t the case. “Rose always did what she wanted.” Pearl’s admittance of that freed him from his guilt. But he did spend about twenty years thinking that Pearl “hated him.” If it weren’t for that trip, he probably would have gone on to believe so.
3. No, they couldn’t have done this at home