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@pistachioinfernal / pistachioinfernal.tumblr.com

ON HIATUS: Be brave, be kind. Feminist, socialist, anti-fascist, she/her. I once asked Chuck Tingle if he might write a kids book. AO3. Multifandom blog. About. Follow 'wholesome' tag for cute stuff. 50ish age
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kbspangler

This is the public statement from @alepresser and myself which went up at Webtoons tonight.

Now for some ranting. Just from me, not from Ale—she's innocent of the art crimes I've committed in the past, and boy howdy have I committed art crimes.

This is the first page of my first webcomic, A Girl and Her Fed. I started this thing back in 2006. (I don't actually need a head count of those reading this who weren't yet born in 2006. I'm sure you're delightful and I wish you well in college.)

And this is the last page I drew in early 2020 before I turned art duties over to Dr. Beer. It's better, right?

Well, these days, A Girl and Her Fed has pages like this:

I drew this comic for fourteen fucking years because it's a story I wanted to tell, and I thought webcomics were the perfect format for it. I didn't know how to draw. I got better through sheer obstinate perseverance and sticking to deadlines as best I could for, again, fourteen fucking years. I sought out a replacement artist when I ran into time constraints and couldn't do art plus writing anymore; I'm a much better writer than an artist, so I had no problems whatsoever kicking art to the curb.

The first time Ale sent me art that would go up on the website—art I hadn't needed to draw myself—I literally cried in relief because I had been grinding myself down for, yet again, fourteen fucking years.

So when I read comments from people who say they want to make a webcomic but can't draw themselves and therefore need to resort to AI, that little line between my eyes gets dangerously deep.

This isn't like I'm some old dude who's bitching over student loans getting cancelled after making regular payments. This is me, someone who threw raw art onto the internet like a monkey hurling fresh poo, because I wanted to make a webcomic and the art is part of the process of storytelling via webcomics! I could've (arguably should've) hired an artist right out of the gate, and that would've been part of the process of making comics, too: a partnership between an artist and a writer is also something which grows and develops over time.

For example, after Dr. Beer and I spent two years working on AGAHF, we decided we enjoyed our partnership so much that we set out to make another webcomic! It's great! It's got wonderful art and consistent storytelling! You should read it!

But turning art duties over to unaltered images generated by AI because you want to make a webcomic but "just can't draw" is, frankly, a bullshit excuse. I'm not talking about persons who are physically unable to draw due to disability—I'm talking about people who say they want to make webcomics but simply don't wanna do the art part.

Friends, if you don't want to show your entire ass in front of God and country, you don't actually want to make a webcomic.

Do the thing yourself.

If you're scared, don't be. Take the plunge. Set a goal of twenty strips and do the thing yourself. If you can already draw but can't write? Great! Write twenty strips, write forty panels, etc. You might surprise yourself. If you can write but can't draw? Great! Draw twenty panels and see what happens.

Whatever comes out of it, it's a thing you've done yourself. It's something new you've given to the world, no matter how big or small. Be proud of that. And if you need to partner with someone else to make your comic dreams work? You can do that, too! It's still a thing you've done yourself, and many projects are stronger when done together.

...but maaaaaaaaaybe hire that partner before you've busted your own ass for fourteen fucking years. That one's on me.

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alepresser

Just to finish the ranting: if you plan to make webcomics via AI because you wanna get a share of the money rolling on it, I just want to make very sure you hear me right now:

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED, WHAT MONEY?

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triaelf9

Watching fireworks with your besties and super cute dragons, I’m sure things will only get better from here on out ^_-

Enjoy!

Support the comic, get WIPs, early pages, and more on my Patreon!

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why do i feel a sense of dread when you say that?!?!

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so if you have a webcomic and are looking to host it somewhere, maybe avoid tapastic

they’re a pretty shady business overall. there’s the old TOS fiasco where they modified their TOS to affect your IP rights without your knowledge, and you auto-consented to it just by having your work there. source (yeah, i know, bleedingcool, big deal - but pay close attention to ironspike and george rohac’s tweets)

yeah, they mopped that up but after a public outcry. that’s old hat.

but here’s some new hat: the tapas creator incubator

tl;dr: the tapas creator incubator is an IP mill they will use to pitch to movie and tv companies, compensating you with scraps and taking full control of your own IP - your own work, YOUR BABY - out of your hands.

more details…

“wowwie, i get to work AT TAPAS HQ! with an editorial team and other creators in a big art house studio!!! i get to bump elbows with TV / original series big wigs! this might be my BIG BREAK!

slow down there friendo! if it sounds too good to be true, then it is too good to be true. let’s take a closer look at what they want.

translation: tapastic wants you to produce 200 pages of comic work in 3-6 months. that’s 1.6 INKED, COLORED, AND LETTERED pages PER DAY, no days off! just an FYI, a “fast pace” for full-time webcomic artists is 4 pages a WEEK. scratch that - that’s breakneck speed for layouts, sketching, inking, flatting, coloring, and lettering comics pages. most comic creators produce a page every one or two weeks.

that is close to mangaka levels of workload, except mangakas have assistants to keep up with their outrageous level of production, and the other creators you’ll be working with are also busy with their own workloads. no help for you!

if you haven’t seen any red flags yet, let me drop some for you:

🚩 🚩 🚩 🚩  STIPEND  🚩 🚩 🚩 🚩

what is a stipend? wikipedia defines it thus:

A stipend is a form of salary, such as for an internship or apprenticeship.[1] It is often distinct from an income or a salary because it does not necessarily represent payment for work performed; instead it represents a payment that enables somebody to be exempt partly or wholly from waged or salaried employment in order to undertake a role that is normally unpaid (e.g. a magistrate in the United Kingdom) or voluntary, or which cannot be measured in terms of a task (e.g. members of the clergy).

a stipend does NOT have to meet minimum wage requirements, a stipend does NOT mean you are employed [by Tapas], a stipend does NOT mean you are entitled to benefits such as PTO, vacation, medical, dental, vision, or any of that. a stipend is COMPENSATION which has no MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

this means tapas is allowed to pay you LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE for your work. and before people jump onboard with “YEAH STIPENDS HAVE TO MEET MINIMUM WAGE”, friends, pals, listen: stipends only have to meet minimum wage requirements if you are an employee-intern with the company.

it’s interesting to note that when users have questioned tapas staff about this, staff responded with:

seriously. there’s a lot of “we work out payments on an individual basis” responses in there.

why all the secrecy? marvel, dc, image and the others are VERY UP FRONT about how they pay their creators. when i go looking for comic work, the pay is discussed right from the get go. the fact that tapas is unwilling to discuss pay is another 🚩.

just fyi, san francisco’s bay area is the most expensive area to live in ($3800/mo for studio, anyone?), and if they wont cover your travel, relocation, living, accomodations cost, then you bet your ass that stipend they offer won’t cover it either. keep that in mind, even if you won’t be relocating.

also keep this in mind: since this will be more than a full-time job, will that stipend pay as much as a full-time job if it doesn’t have to meet minimum wage requirements?

X, X, X, X, X, X

undisclosed pay? dividing up your control over YOUR IP? no clear outline on how much of your IP you still own? no termination clause? no info on royalties?

typically, comic publishers and hosts will tell you right off the bat who owns your IP and how profits will be split. this is standard and common practice. tapas has revealed none of these.

if you look at their TOS change and this “incubator”, this is a very clear trend that tapas is an IP mill out to exploit creators.

i can’t stop ya’ll from uploading your work there, i can only make you aware of the the trend and the things they are up to. i personally will never upload my work there and support their system.

if you haven’t already, give iron spike a follow on twitter, she is VERY good at keeping her ear to the ground for this kind of nonsense. join groups of experienced comic creators who keep an eye out for bad contracts (TokyoPop? Platinum? remember those guys?)

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foervraengd

You know what. Tapas is shit. I’m glad I decided to no longer promote my comic there.

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