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“…a known problematic VanQuinn and Hellcheer shipper…”
Lover of Hellcheer, Swanfire, Inuyasha, and any show or film that involves pairing a pretty girl with a monster or a ship that makes you mad. Always happy to chat!
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Anonymous asked:

Do you still believe Swanfire was always the plan for OUAT - until they changed for the 'hotter' guy for viewership? I always saw the symmetry and beauty of Swanfire as the plan - but of course have started to doubt myself after over a year of CSers and A&E jeering 'NOPE, you're ridiculous'. I don't know at this point if I'm just being stubborn but, given the lazy writing and how they've handled established true loves on the show, maybe they was a plan that actually made sense.

Let’s discuss this for a moment, because you’re right–A&E are trying their damndest to say that Captain Swan was always the intention.  Which makes sense when you think about it from their perspective–every writer wants to make you believe they had everything planned from the getgo–that they are just that good.  A&E are no exception.  

But let’s consider the first season’s central characters.  Emma Swan, Henry Mills, Rumplestiltskin, Regina, Prince Charming, and Snow White.  We had episodes that centered on other characters, but the core characters were the above listed.  Each had their own specific plot that intertwined towards the show’s theme.

Emma Swan:  Emma’s intersected with a lot of characters but overall, she was driven by her relationship with Henry.  Throughout the course of the season, we see Emma Swan’s hard exterior melt as she lets Henry into her life and comes to love him.  When we’re introduced to her, we as the audience learn that she is the only daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming, the product of true love.  We learn that only she can break the curse cast by Regina and created by Rumplestiltsklin.  We also learn that Emma is tough, hardened by a rough life, wounded from her parents abandoning her–and later, from a betrayal by Henry’s father.  Her comment “His father was no hero” in “True North” indicates to the audience that she was hurt very badly by this man.  We also see that from the pilot episode, Emma is driven by a desire to find her family.  “Finding people is what I do.”

Henry Mills:  Henry’s journey through the first season was driven by his ardent desire to break the town’s curse and find his true family.  This is not a slam against adoptive parents–however, Regina’s behavior towards Henry in the first season was abusive.  Gaslighting him and isolating him from the people he loves is not motherly love.  (Which is probably why Lana requested the relationship between her and Henry change in season two)  In any case–breaking the curse and finding his family is Henry’s motivation in season one.

Rumplestiltskin:  In season one, Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold is an enigmatic character whose motivations are unclear.  In the beginning, we know he created the curse, but we don’t know why.  As the season progresses, we learn how he became the Dark One–out of a desire to protect his young son.  Even further down the road, we see Rumplestiltskin struggle with his power and protecting his son, culminating in the eventual separation–Rumplestiltskin abandons his son.  While Snow and Charming abandoned their daughter for “the greater good”, to save everyone, Rumplestiltskin abandoned his son out of fear of losing his power.  His regret is immediate and he spends the rest of his life creating a plan to reunite with his son.  Thus the curse was created.  To find Baelfire.  To find Neal.  To find his family.

Prince Charming & Snow White:  Charming/David and Snow/Mary Margaret’s main arcs centered around them finding each other–in both the Enchanted Forest and in Storybrooke.  From their bumpy first meeting to falling in love, to the various obstacles that separated them…to David’s amnesia, to his cursed self being married to Kathryn, to Mary Margaret being publicly shamed by the town as a homewrecker.  While their reunion is about restoring romantic love, they’re still family to each other, and their arc is about finding their family in each other.

Regina:  Regina’s primary motivation in season one is thwarting Emma and protecting her curse–which can essentially be read as keeping her family together.  This is of course out of a selfish desire to keep Henry to herself, but nevertheless, considering Regina’s immediate family is A.) Dead because of her and B.) Murdered her true love out of a desire to better her daughter’s standing and is therefore trapped in another world, it makes sense that Regina wants to keep the only person she loves close to her.

So you tell me.  As Emma’s eventual love interest, who makes more sense?  Which seems more planned?  A character who is the son of Rumplestiltskin, fitting in with the “finding your family” theme, a character who is the father of Henry, also fitting in with the “finding your family”, a character who directly contributes to Emma’s issues with vulnerability, a character who was also abandoned just like her, a character whose own abandonment cultivates a desire to be the best father he can be, a complicated character who fears magic and doesn’t forgive his father right away–just as Emma didn’t forgive Snow and Charming right away, a character whose entire concept was the catalyst for creating the curse in the first place…

Or a Jack Sparrow ripoff from Neverland who has literally no connections to anyone in the first season lead characters except Rumplestiltskin, was never foreshadowed in season one, and has had spotty sloppy character development with literally no leadup or buildup.  

You tell me.             

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things we need to address:

  • gen z men getting pulled into alt-right pipelines through andrew tate, joe rogan, elon musk, jordan peterson etc
  • the gullibility and stupidity of half the country voting against our collective best interests
  • the broad effect social media has on public and common good
  • lazy minds and lack of empathy
  • outside-country interference (trump and elon’s connections to russia and the amount of bots from other countries spreading misinformation)
  • the long-term effects of AI and rampant disinformation
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i have understood so many things about online leftist culture by the fact that when i said "your local community has people you will morally and politically disagree with but you cannot lock them out of accessing any tangible service you’re organising" one of the tags responding said "this isn’t about proshippers in here you’re not welcome" like. folks. focus with me. some of us are homeless here.

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mokeonn

The Princess Bride is such a funny book to read after ONLY seeing the movie. Like Goldman made up a fake author from a fake country and proceeded to write the book as an abridged version of what the fake author wrote... and then he proceeds to add in notes to the "abridged version" mentioning all the boring world building stuff he skipped because it was boring.

Like shout out to William Goldman, man really did make an entire book that is just "the cool scenes you thought of in your head" and then made up a fake author to abridge so he doesn't have to connect them.

And it slaps

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thuriweaver

I used to work at a used bookstore, and had a group of three teenage boys come in wanting the "Unabridged Version" of Princess Bride.

They would not believe that it was a narrative device and the unabridged version didn't exist. Said no author would credit someone else for their own writing, that was ridiculous, and was there a guy who knew about fantasy they could talk to?

I grabbed a coworker and left him to deal with it. Heard him explaining the concept of a pen name as I walked away.

the unabridged princess bride 🤝goncharov

fictitious works of media that sound very interesting but can never exist in a way that lives up to the expectations built by their nonexistence

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velvet4510

To anyone who believes fairy tale romances never happen in real life, may I remind you that JRR and Edith Tolkien met and experienced a forbidden love in their youth, and then were separated for five whole years because of his guardian’s rules that he could not date till he was 21, and she got engaged to someone else only because she assumed he’d forgotten her and lost hope that she could ever be with him, but then on his 21st birthday, he wrote her a letter saying he still loved her and wanted to marry her, she responded basically saying ‘if I’d known you hadn’t left me on the shelf, I would never have said yes to anyone else,’ then a week later she greeted him at the train station and then immediately dumped her fiancé, and they got married and she converted to his religion and danced for him in a flowering field far away from the trenches into which he was drafted, which left such an impression that he crafted an entire story about the most beautiful maiden in the world who danced in the woods and made enormous sacrifices to be with the man she loved, and they had four kids and remained faithful to each other and blissfully grew old together and their gravestones are now marked with the names of that same fictional couple that he created, who broke every rule and overcame every possible obstacle to be together and get a happy ending, who only did all that because he based it all on their own real love story.

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tuulikki

Knowing all this has always made this bit of Beren’s song instantly reduce me to tears:

Though all to ruin fell the world
and were dissolved and backward hurled
unmade into the old abyss,
yet were its making good, for this—
the dawn, the dusk, the earth, the sea—
that Lúthien on a time should be!

Tolkien straight up wrote a poem that said “the world could end, but it wouldn’t have all been pointless, because she was in this world, however briefly, and that justified all the rest.” Kills me.

Who can outdo Wife Guy Tolkien? Dude was writing elaborate AUs where his wife is an impossibly beautiful magic-wielding immortal elf princess who fights Satan and wins to rescue her human boyfriend from Satan’s doom fortress. Flawless.

Final note: while they were dating, a favorite activity was to go to a local cafe with a balcony and throw sugar cubes into people's hats.

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mini-wrants

Im sorry but I'm laughing at these men.

Sorry you're an idiot.

I hope you have to struggle to provide Christmas presents for your kids, I really do. I hope the next 4 years suck for you. I'll keep tipping all my baristas and handing out cash to the Goodfellas, but I hope you feel the humiliation of knowing you were duped.

nope, they’re going to blame women and Democrats. any humiliation will be sublimated & redirected in their hatred towards us. whenever men like this feel dumb, they don’t “listen and learn” or whatever, they punish somebody else about it.

everyone will agree that it is the Democrats’ fault that people who don’t listen to Democrats did not hear us talking about why Trump tariffs are bad, and also did not look up how tariffs fucking work before voting on it.

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gen z has to reckon with its radicalization problem. you are not a morally pure and superior generation of youth come to save the world, your men and boys are radicalized at an unprecedented level and you ignore it because it’s too hard to address but you have to. these boys are in your classes, they date your friends, you know them and you cannot continue to pretend this is an “old white guy” problem

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