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why stop at five and lila? why not just make season 4 the swinging season?

- ray actually left allison for klaus, so now klaus is both clare’s uncle AND her stepdad

- luther found this timeline’s sloane only for her to immediately fall for allison instead of him

- after being resurrected abigail kicked reginald to the curb and started pursuing luther. she decided she preferred a himbo

- dave survived vietnam in this timeline and helped mend the pieces of reginald’s broken heart.

- viktor ran into delores at the gimble’s and has started up a shy flirtation with her

- ben 1 returns and fights ben 2 for jennifer’s love only for them to end up in a throuple

- diego goes on a journey of gender discovery, transitions and settles down with sissy

damn they should’ve let me write it

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Hiiii :)

I'm currently writing a fic about Diego but I keep feeling like I have to restart from s1 because I forgot how to characterize him (if that makes any sense??) Do you have any scenes that you rely on to characterize him from s1, 2, and 3? (so that I don't have to watch all 30 episodes again lol). I have to get it done by the end of this month and I'm nervous that I won't be able to pull it off. I don't think I'm going to rewatch any scenes from s4 though because although I feel like they got his character right, Lila's character definitely wasn't right and that messes the whole system up lol.

Thanks so much for your input!

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Hello! Sorry, I saw this at the wrong point, and then promptly forgot it was in my inbox, lol. I hope you're still writing!

So, yeah, in terms of scenes I go back to: that often depends on the emotion I'm trying to track, or the particular relationship. But in terms of ones where I feel like he's really got some screen time that's worth watching:

Season 1:

Ep 1: the funeral scene/fight with Luther. Bitter but righteously angry Diego at his finest (with the sweet little twist of his concern for Grace at the end).

Ep 3 (Extra Ordinary): the flashback to Grace helping him with his stammer as a child, and then the two scenes with her as an adult - with Diego trying to persuade her to leave, and then finally switching her off (a heartbreaking little sequence!).

Ep 4 (Man on the Moon): The conversation with Luther in the library, before they find Five - Diego connecting with his brother and trying to break through Luther's blind faith in Reggie.

Ep 8 (I Heard A Rumor): The little scene with Beaman - example of how good Diego is at making friends, despite his prickly exterior, and Beaman sees the good in him that he saw in Eudora.

Season 2 (aka the best Diego season):

Ep 1: Him (and Lila!) in the asylum, talking to Dr Moncton, doing arts and crafts, and his conversation/confrontation with Five. And then his escape with Lila - man, this is SUCH a good Diego ep.

Ep 2 (The Frankel Footage): His plan to chop off Oswald's finger, lol, him and Five arguing about whether Reggie is up to something, and his lovely little reassurance of Lila in the darkroom. And then him and Five breaking into Reggie's place and talking about their dad some more, and his fight with Reggie and ultimate inability to kill the mf.

Ep 3 (The Swedish Job): Him and Lila talking about her parents, and...all the rest of that scene. <3

Ep 4 (The Majestic 12): Him and Lila being domestic and cosy in the morning, their dance at the consulate, his conversation with rl Grace (his sheer horror at the thought of Reggie and Grace dating, lol!), the fight with the Swedes.

Ep 5 (Valhalla): Diego's confrontation with Lila. His easy forgiveness of Vanya, and attempt to tell his family about his girl troubles. His "Everyone changes the world" speech.

Ep 6 (A Light Supper): His gleeful little "Team Zero" plan. Being destroyed by Reggie.

Ep 7 (Oga for Oga): Him and Luther phoning poor Olga. Him hugging Ben/Klaus. Taking the time to bury Elliott, and falling for Lila's transparent plot.

Ep 8 (The Seven Stages): Meeting the mother-in-law (instant enemy). Meeting Herb (instant friend). Being the only one to greet Ray like a normal person.

Ep 9 (743): Desperately trying, and failing, to save JFK.

Ep 10 (The End of Something): Him and Five confronting the Handler and Lila, and then saving one another from the Commission army. Talking Lila around, and stopping Luther from stopping her. His brief little moment with Vanya at the end, as they deal with leaving/getting left by their loved one.

I'm gonna come back to s3 bc I have an evening to live, lol. Hope this is helpful!

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Okay, season 3...

Ep 1: That entire dance sequence that is in Diego's head. Babyyyy...

Ep 2 (World's Biggest Ball of Twine): Talking to Stan about what he hoped to be like as a father.

Ep 3 (Pocket Full of Lightning): Lila breaking his heart. His straightforward acceptance of Viktor: "Do you feel loved? Good. You are."

Ep 4 (Kugelblitz): His stunned reaction to getting a spontaneous hug from Stan! Taking Allison out for his brand of therapy.

Ep 4 (Kindest Cut): Dealing with Stan killing Klaus in as calm and mature a fashion as you could expect from an Umbrella. Being Lila's DILF.

Ep 5 (Marigold): Finding out he's not actually Stan's dad - and instantly moving to adoption solutions.

Ep 7 (Auf Wiedersehen): Finding out that he is (going to be) a father after all. Actually asking for time to consider Lila's proposal.

Ep 8 (Wedding at the End of the World): Choosing Lila over saving the world. Reggie telling him that he would have made a superb father. The bittersweetness of a near-perfect evening, knowing that it's all going to end tomorrow.

Ep 9 (Seven Bells): Getting over-protective of Lila and provoking an argument.

Ep 10 (Oblivion): Excited to tell his family about the baby. Being so smitten with Lila. Reassuring her that she'll be a good mum. Fighting in sync with her - and then locking her in a closet. And, in the end, departing with her to go live their lives.

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Okay, those are my personal recs! There are plenty of other great scenes with him, of course, and I've skipped a few major ones - but these are the ones I think give you the most about his character.

Happy writing!

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Hiiii :)

I'm currently writing a fic about Diego but I keep feeling like I have to restart from s1 because I forgot how to characterize him (if that makes any sense??) Do you have any scenes that you rely on to characterize him from s1, 2, and 3? (so that I don't have to watch all 30 episodes again lol). I have to get it done by the end of this month and I'm nervous that I won't be able to pull it off. I don't think I'm going to rewatch any scenes from s4 though because although I feel like they got his character right, Lila's character definitely wasn't right and that messes the whole system up lol.

Thanks so much for your input!

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Hello! Sorry, I saw this at the wrong point, and then promptly forgot it was in my inbox, lol. I hope you're still writing!

So, yeah, in terms of scenes I go back to: that often depends on the emotion I'm trying to track, or the particular relationship. But in terms of ones where I feel like he's really got some screen time that's worth watching:

Season 1:

Ep 1: the funeral scene/fight with Luther. Bitter but righteously angry Diego at his finest (with the sweet little twist of his concern for Grace at the end).

Ep 3 (Extra Ordinary): the flashback to Grace helping him with his stammer as a child, and then the two scenes with her as an adult - with Diego trying to persuade her to leave, and then finally switching her off (a heartbreaking little sequence!).

Ep 4 (Man on the Moon): The conversation with Luther in the library, before they find Five - Diego connecting with his brother and trying to break through Luther's blind faith in Reggie.

Ep 8 (I Heard A Rumor): The little scene with Beaman - example of how good Diego is at making friends, despite his prickly exterior, and Beaman sees the good in him that he saw in Eudora.

Season 2 (aka the best Diego season):

Ep 1: Him (and Lila!) in the asylum, talking to Dr Moncton, doing arts and crafts, and his conversation/confrontation with Five. And then his escape with Lila - man, this is SUCH a good Diego ep.

Ep 2 (The Frankel Footage): His plan to chop off Oswald's finger, lol, him and Five arguing about whether Reggie is up to something, and his lovely little reassurance of Lila in the darkroom. And then him and Five breaking into Reggie's place and talking about their dad some more, and his fight with Reggie and ultimate inability to kill the mf.

Ep 3 (The Swedish Job): Him and Lila talking about her parents, and...all the rest of that scene. <3

Ep 4 (The Majestic 12): Him and Lila being domestic and cosy in the morning, their dance at the consulate, his conversation with rl Grace (his sheer horror at the thought of Reggie and Grace dating, lol!), the fight with the Swedes.

Ep 5 (Valhalla): Diego's confrontation with Lila. His easy forgiveness of Vanya, and attempt to tell his family about his girl troubles. His "Everyone changes the world" speech.

Ep 6 (A Light Supper): His gleeful little "Team Zero" plan. Being destroyed by Reggie.

Ep 7 (Oga for Oga): Him and Luther phoning poor Olga. Him hugging Ben/Klaus. Taking the time to bury Elliott, and falling for Lila's transparent plot.

Ep 8 (The Seven Stages): Meeting the mother-in-law (instant enemy). Meeting Herb (instant friend). Being the only one to greet Ray like a normal person.

Ep 9 (743): Desperately trying, and failing, to save JFK.

Ep 10 (The End of Something): Him and Five confronting the Handler and Lila, and then saving one another from the Commission army. Talking Lila around, and stopping Luther from stopping her. His brief little moment with Vanya at the end, as they deal with leaving/getting left by their loved one.

I'm gonna come back to s3 bc I have an evening to live, lol. Hope this is helpful!

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On a rewatch, I realised: Lila avoids mentioning Diego to Five, and makes out her drive to return is all about the kids, not because it's the whole story, but because she suspects that Five is going to react badly. And she's right! Even though she doesn't even mention him, Five is instantly suspicious, jealous, opinionated - controlling. He immediately jumps to the conclusion that she's going back to Diego (and hey, they've known each other for 7 years now, so there's probably a good basis for that), and tries to put a stop to it. He'd already been lying to her for months, to keep her there beyond what was necessary - she can't take the risk of him going completely off the deep end, when she's stuck there alone with him. It's a sticky situation, and she just tries to get out as quickly and cleanly as possible. And she doesn't ask Five to come with her, she leaves that entirely up to him - because she's not interested in trying to control him, nor to perpetuate this survival relationship.

And then she's nervous when she's back home, when Diego is showing her affection, because Five is twitching like a goddamn rat on cocaine. He's so obviously about to start trouble. And she is trying her best to avoid that confrontation, because fuck knows what could happen. It's not Diego she's trying to placate, it's Five, who is acting like a spurned lover - because he's already made it clear that he thinks he has sole rights over her, and has completely lost all perspective about the complexity of their situation.

(Which is a ridiculous characterisation, he's mentally 70 by this point, he shouldn't be acting like an emotionally-immature teenager - but I guess some people thought that was sexy and cool. Like calls to like, I suppose.)

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Come on down to the Mermaid Café and I will buy you a bottle of wine And we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down Let's have a round for these freaks and these soldiers A round for these friends of mine Let's have another round for the bright red devil Who keeps me in this tourist town

(Tag to follow/block: tua diego/lila au inspo

Feel free to use any of these as jumping-off points for fic etc, if any of them grab you.)

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After seven years, three kids, some hard times, and some great times, Lila and Diego finally get around to getting hitched. The day is emotional for them (and embarrassing for their kids), but the part they're both going to remember for the rest of their lives is the first dance.

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This seemed like the perfect one to celebrate 100 Diego/Lila AU posts! I would like to thank David and Ritu for having such a vast array of ridiculous and gorgeous photos from their respective acting careers and lives, and for looking just stupidly cute together (give that casting director an award, damn).

I was determined to hit this milestone, but from now on, I'm just going to post these as and when inspiration hits. I have a few to repost so they're in the tag proper, and some ones that are vibes-only, so they're in my queue for the next few days. And if anyone has any requests or suggestions, let me know, and I'll see if I can magic up a photo set!

(Tag to follow/block: tua diego/lila au inspo

Feel free to use any of these as jumping-off points for fic etc, if any of them grab you.)

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Film noir AU:

I'll never forget the day that she walked into my life.

It began innocently enough: a knock at the door just as I was downing my third set of reps for the day. Without waiting for an answer, the door swung open, and there she was, all done up like your best friend's bratty little sister--the kind you kiss after school when he's not looking.

I grabbed a towel. I had a feeling I was gonna need it.

"Mr. Hargreeves?" she asked. She was British. Well, I wouldn't hold it against her. Not unless she asked nicely.

"Call me Diego. Mr. Hargreeves is my father." Well, technically, my big brother had inherited the title--but that was too much to go into at this time of the morning.

The lady smirked a little, like she knew all my secrets anyhow. "Is that what you're calling yourself?"

Suddenly, I wasn't in the mood for idle chit-chat. "So what can I help you with? Lost cat, maybe--a blackmail scheme--or a straying husband?"

She stepped into the room. I hadn't invited her, but I figure that didn't matter. She leaned against my wall, and fluttered her pretty eyelashes in my direction.

"Nothing so simple, I'm afraid. I've come to talk to you about the apocalypse."

Yeah. That was the day the world ended, and the day I met Lila Pitts. Only one of those changed my life--and it wasn't the one with a meteorite.

(Tag to follow/block: tua diego/lila au inspo

Feel free to use any of these as jumping-off points for fic etc, if any of them grab you.)

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The Office AU:

"No, I don't get on with anyone here, it's not that kind of workplace. Well, the new receptionist, whatever her name is, she's...she's okay."

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"Oh yes. Diego. He's a total arsehole."

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"Oh, hey, listen, you wanna talk assholes, did you know Lila rigged the coffee machine to literally explode, when she knew I'd be there late because I had a tight deadline, and I'd need caffeine--and it wasn't like I locked her in the supply closet for revenge, it was an accident--"

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"Every day is a new death trap. I enjoy it, actually! Keeps things lively. Everyone else is so boring."

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"...She said w-what?"

(Tag to follow/block: tua diego/lila au inspo

Feel free to use any of these as jumping-off points for fic etc, if any of them grab you.)

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Now I've had time to think (rationally) I really do have to disagree with the fandom consensus that Fivela was out of character - I say this as someone who prefers the platonic relationship. Let me explain:

The main arguement I see is "they would never do that" but one of the biggest and best pieces of advice I've seen on fiction writing is: it's not "would they do that" it's "what would drive them to do that". Everyone is capable of anything and everything if given the right motivation and circumstances, and the same is true of fictional characters.

Five and Lila both have incredibly good reasons to do what they did. The problem is a lack of time. No time is spent on their plotline, and the lack of insight that's given to the audience as to why they would act this way affects the reception of this development hugely. No time is allowed to show the repercussions, and how this is dealt with and what decisions are made. Fivela needed two seasons all to itself to explain everything - one to show their development in the subway, and one to show everything after.

If the showrunners wanted to do Fivela, they needed bare minimum a full 10 episode season, ideally with episodes that are actually longer than normal (Steve, 10 minutes is not enough to count for anything). They shouldn't have tried to tackle something that complex without the time to spend on it.

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Apols for reblogging, but I had too many thoughts to add in tags!

Thing is, when I'm feeling calm about the whole thing, I pretty much agree with this take. I think, given the seven years under extreme duress, it's not massively OOC for these two characters to turn to one another, precisely as you describe - and there's no blame attached to that. Hell, I think Diego realises that too, when Lila tells him how much time has passed - his whole demeanor changes, and he's so quiet and sad - not angry - when he asks Lila if she loves Five.

(Ftr I think he's asking the wrong question there: it's not do you love him?, bc yeah she's been relying on him alone for seven years, of course she's going to have a lot of complicated feelings there - it's do you want to be with him?)

My main issue with it was that they included it at all, because it doesn't advance the plot in any way, and it was so rushed and stuck in at the end. I mean I would've hated it however they did it, of course - but this seemed to be the least convincing way, and sidesteps all the fallout. It serves no purpose other than to provide Five with a romance. Lila already had one, so literally it's all about Five.

Okay, my other issue is the headcanons and Word of God stuff, where people think Lila would have chosen Five, that she truly loved him, that Steve said he thinks the marriage with Diego was over - because that is really not shown, and it feels to me like he chose the most cowardly option, not committing to either side. Nothing with Diego has been resolved, and nothing Lila herself says indicates that she wants to stay with Five. The way she describes it, to both Five and Diego, is about how it was a way to survive - she never once talks about having feelings towards Five, she doesn't call him 'love', she still describes their circumstances as 'shitsville'...she is participating in the make-believe, but she's not lying to Five or herself about what it is. Maybe she won't want to get back together with Diego; maybe she's just too fundamentally changed. But I don't see anything about her and Five's relationship as solid, either, given that they seem to be on entirely different pages about it. And then the show just ends, without any answers.

There were two forced-by-circumstances relationships in this season, Lila and Five, and Ben and Jennifer, and honestly I think it shows where their focus lay: in getting characters into certain situations, without any thought about natural progression. The characters were put into situations where they had no other choices, and that's simply not romance, to me.

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