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@orangelionfurandtaxidermy / orangelionfurandtaxidermy.tumblr.com

She/her - 28 - Europe
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Anonymous asked:

Im genuinely curious and i Do Not mean to start shit or be offensive.

Why do you support fur farming? Theyre notoriously terrible for multiple reasons and i genuinely dont understand why someone would support (buy from) fur farms? I can understand hunting and skinning animals that threaten livestock like chickens and not wanting to waste it or avtually planning to use it, but just for fun? Profit?

Like i said, im genuinely curious and i dont mean to sound offensive if i do. I want to understand why someone who runs a blog for the safety or "cuteness" of fox videos supports fur farms

Fur farms are not inherently terrible or cruel. There are plenty of good farms who take excellent care of their animals. My fur farming tag has plenty of information on good farming practices and welfare.

All of the farmed foxes I own come from a couple of farms in Finland, which has the highest welfare standards in the world. All of these farms are Welfur certified, meaning the care and welfare of the animals goes above and beyond the standard. I follow some of the farmers on Instagram and have seen photos of all the farms my foxes come from. The majority were purchased from @orangelionfurandtaxidermy who i know has visited and works very closely with the farmers she gets her pelts from to ensure the foxes are treated well.

Don't believe everything you hear from animal rights groups about fur farming. A lot of it is staged/fake or just outright lies to push their anti-fur agenda. If farmers want a good pelt that will earn a profit they HAVE to take good care of their animals. Fur quality is directly linked to animal health and welfare. Decades of scientific research has gone into the care of these animals and research is constantly ongoing.

Is fur farming perfect? No. Are there still improvements to be made in the industry? Yes. Do some countries, like China and the US, have a lot of issues with poor regulations and welfare in fur farming? Yes. But there are plenty of good farms out there. Farmers who care about their animals and try to give them a good life and the best care. You just have to do your research and make sure you're buying from reputable and well-regulated sources.

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To add to this post, I think fur farming is a legit thing. We humans don’t actually need most things we farm animals for, in the sense that we would die without them.

I myself am intolerant to dairy products yet my life is fine without them. I don’t need a fancy piece of salmon or a steak on the grill. Fur isn’t needed in most parts of the world, but it does make our lives easier. It’s warm, beautiful and a natural resource to use respectfully. Many indigenous groups still use fur for cultural reasons (yes, also a lot of farmed fur!). Wether you think it’s a legitimate reason or not, fur has given me confidence and improved my mental health.

In the end you have to remember that no animal cares why it dies, its instinct is to survive. As long as we treat animals well and give them a painless end it’s all the same to me. Farmed animals are used entirely just like any beef cow would, we just can’t eat foxes or minks because it’s actually illegal in some parts of the world for the meat to be used for human consumption.

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Anonymous asked:

Hi! I saw your post mentioning crystal foxes and I was wondering what they looked like? I think I saw some pelts up for sale on Etsy that were crystal foxes but I thought they were dyed. They’re the brownish ones right?

Yes Crystal foxes are not natural.

They can be made from Silver, Blue Frost or Blue arctic fox. Used is some kind of chemical to lighten the underfur to brown, but keep some of the darker guard hairs and white tips. I suspect the top picture is altered, I’ve never seen ones this pretty anywhere else.

I think it looks nice especially on Silver fox. Not many tanneries offer this kind of treatment though.

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Hope you won't mind me asking! Why are golden island foxes typically more expensive than other popular hybrids like blue frost?

I've heard it's due to color inconsistency but shadow blue frost foxes seem to vary wildly in color too. Is it because of the popularity of the color or because golden islands are difficult to breed?

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Both Golden Island and Blue Frost are popular hybrids, the most popular ones. Their price fluctuates a lot, the last auction here in Europe (where afaik 95+% of hybrid foxes are bred) actually had higher prices and higher clearance for Blue Frost.

They aren’t difficult to breed at all, one parent is a Silver fox and the other either a Polar (for Golden Island) or Bluefox (for Blue Frost). They are the most common foxes to find in captivity. Other pairings also produce Golden Island and Blue Frost but usually the above pairings are used.

One thing Blue Frost has over Golden Island is size, it comes in size 50 while Golden Island caps at size 40.

Blue Frost is also sometimes dyed while Golden Island is not. Crystal can be produces using Blue Frost pelts (Bluefox and Silver are also used).

Breeders pay close attention to the December fur auction at Saga Furs. It actually didn’t happen last year at all so that provided some challenges. If Blue Frost sells well in December, people will breed their Bluefox females to a Silver male. If Bluefox does better, they breed pure Bluefox. This doesn’t happen to Polar foxes, the female parent of Golden Island. Polars stay much smaller so the pelts have less value. You will always have to make hybrids with them.

For me, I price both Golden Island and Blue Frost the same as I buy them at the same price.

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I have started to update all my Etsy listings so I can hopefully find homes for a good amount of my pelts. I’m expecting some new pelts soon and my small workspace can only hold so many pelts!

Because Etsy charges me about 12% of the value in fees, I have no other choice than to add those to the price. I can however send you an invoice on Paypal for a 7% reduction in price (Paypal charges me 5% fees). A bank transfer from European countries has no fees so you get the regular price.

I’m willing to do deals on multiple pelts!

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Not a big Etsy fan but lately I’ve sold a few pelts through Etsy.

I’ve added some new pelts, like some large Marble Frosts as well as a mountable wild tanuki pelt. Everything on Etsy is also available through Paypal payment for a 7% discount. I can send you an invoice and you’ll have 90 days to pay off the pelt.

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Who doesn’t love vet bills? I adopted two kittens from the animal shelter 3 weeks ago and it’s been one issue after the other 🙁 Luckily nothing life threatening, but the costs do add up!

I’ve decided to participate in the Etsy Black Friday sale which will start in a few days. All non mountable pelts will be 15% off! I chose to do this because Etsy deposits funds the next day.

I will also be offering the same discount outside of Etsy which is an even better deal because prices outside of Etsy are lower (Trello link below shows my full inventory, click on the picture of the pelt for details). The only condition is that there will be NO payment plans. I need this money now to pay for bills. I can hold paid items for you to ship later if needed.

Sale starts November 18th and ends November 30th. This is the biggest sale I’ve ever done, I don’t do this often at all! I really can’t afford to as I would be losing money.

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Anonymous asked:

Do foxes on fur farms recieve decent enrichment/comfort? Like the wire floors and stuff seem irritating and I've been led to believe they're just always caged. It's a concern for me given that I think every animal in human care deserves to live a happy, healthy life, even if they will eventually be killed.

Wire floors don't cause foxes any problems. Farmed foxes have extremely long, thick fur on the bottom of their feet that acts as a cushion. Multiple studies have been done where foxes were given access to various floor types (wire mesh, wood, sand etc.) and even with access to other flooring the foxes still regularly chose to use the wire mesh. They wouldn't do that if it was in any way uncomfortable. Breeding females also get access to wooden nest boxes where they can raise their young.

Here's a comparison of the paw of a farm fox (top) and wild fox (bottom). Note how much bigger and fluffier the farm fox's paw is!

High welfare farms do also provide enrichment, usually in the form of large bones that they can chew on/play with. Foxes also have raised platforms in their cages as they like to be up high.

Imo, I'd like to see more varied enrichment. A single bone will probably get a bit boring after a while. Some studies have shown that access to a sandy digging pit significantly improves welfare, as digging is something foxes really enjoy and can also be used as a way to relieve stress or burn off excess energy. It's definitely something I'd like to see a push for in fur farms in the future. It's all well and good meeting an animals physical needs, but their mental wellbeing is just as important.

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Honestly it would be awesome if multiple/novel forms of enrichment were required for fur farms (....and all other animal farming). Different toys, exposure to different smells, species-specific stuff like sand to dig in for foxes or a swimming section for mink, just overall more. While cages may be comfortable enough for them and safe from the elements and anything dangerous being bored is very much a thing. Extra stress relief is always a good thing.

I agree with this. Sadly it will probably never happen.

The progress we’ve seen in welfare for cattle is because there’s enough of a customer base for organic or better welfare meat. Fur has been suffering from less demand for some time, so who would be paying for the expenses of extra enrichment…Pelts are already selling at cost, or less than that.

Most of the farms I work with to provide extra enrichment, like fresh straw, meaty bones for foxes (lots of farmers are also hunters) and lots of human interaction. Just because they want to. That’s why I pay above market price for those pelts. But it’s still not enough for them to even start to think about building playpens for foxes 🙁 I wish there was more demand for fur, so prices would go up dramatically and we could slowly start to demand things to improve animal welfare more.

I have a book on fur farming in the UK in the 1930s that shows an exercise pen that was supposedly common at the time (at least on UK farms). No idea how they managed to get them all back into their main pens!

I think there's a misconception that because fur is often an expensive luxury product that fur farmers must be super rich. In reality, the price farmers get for raw pelts is often very low, and what little they do make goes back into the farm. It’s not that fur farmers don’t care about their animals. Most farmers do care and want to give their animals a good life, but if a farmer is barely scraping even then it’s just not possible to make those kind of improvements. 

Once again it’s the animal rights movement doing more harm than good. Their heavy push against fur has lowered demand and thus lowered prices, which in turn makes it harder to improve welfare standards.

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I will be updating all pictures and pelt inventory (I have a few pelts here and there that didn’t get added before) in the coming weeks.

Most pelts are for sale on Etsy, but with shipping already included in the price and a 12% price increase to compensate for fees.

Trello has a list of all the pelts I currently have, along with pictures and info on the pelt. Picking a pelt there and messaging me directly (here, on Instagram or on Facebook) and paying through Paypal is cheaper than buying via Etsy. I can’t take credit card so that’s where Etsy comes in handy.

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