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INTJ and INFJ

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This is what happens when an INFJ and an INTJ decide to make a blog to have a record of their actual conversations (+ occasional attendance of our MBTI friends).Hilarity ensured. Or maybe not. We post originals. Requests and asks are always welcomed. link to INFJ's blog
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intj & infj - episode 38 (or intj’s paralysis by perfectionism part 7^87)

INTJ: It feels like a failure.

INFJ: No! The fact that you tried is honestly a success n itself

INTJ (rolling eyes already): Yeah. Sure.

INFJ: Dude.

INTJ: I mean, sure, I can “appreciate” that type of mindset, but it doesn’t apply to my own mind.

INFJ (Laughing hysterically): Omg. You freaking air quoting while you say appreciate was a dagger to my heart, asshole.

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INTJ: Oh, hello, insomnia. Long time no see.

INTJ: *After a few hours ends up sending ENTP brother a long vocabulary list of various adjectives as an alternative to using the word “very”*.

ENTP: … ENTP: Have you seriously woken me up for this.

INTJ: Oh, didn’t mean to.

ENTP: It is 4 freaking 30 am.

INTJ: I know?

ENTP: Isn’t it too early for being such a nerd?

INTJ: It is never too early to enlarge and improve your lexicon! :D

ENTP:… ENTP: Jesus Christ.

INTJ: I also have a list of pagan deities, wanna see?

ENTP: Go. Back. To. Sleep.

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intp (distant) vs. intj (cold)

My phone decided only INFJ was responding so here’s part 2 for the last ask ffs.

Why INTJs are referred to as cold and INTPs as distant. 

INTP INxPs live inside their heads more than any other introvert. And it makes so much sense since Ne is the least extroverted of all E functions. Extroverted intuition is all about ideas and theories rather than concrete objects of the outside world. The result is that they come across as if they were elsewhere very consistently. 

INTJ On the other hand, we have auxiliary Te here. Extraverted thinking is in fact very concerned about the outside world; as long as the INTJ is collecting observable data from the world for posterior analysis, they won’t look distracted at all, but I guess it is to some degree evident that they are using all these elements (human behaviour included) as objective facts. If that doesn’t come across as cold, I don’t know what will.  (Sorry for the splitted answer and thanks for the cool question @intp-moments. I’d love to read the thoughts of other INTxs about this).  – INTJ

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INTJs are referred to as cold, while INTPs distant -what's the difference?

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So much sense. Okay, this is my reasoning for this, and I am a very silly human, so this my be very silly conclusion:

Both INTJ and INTP are disconnected. However, the object of their disconnection makes them seem either cold or distant:

- INTJ looks disconected from feelings and therefore are considered cold.

- INTP looks disconnected from our reality and therefore are considered distant.

There are distant INTJs and cold INTPs for sure, but I think they are defined better as cold nerds (INTJ) and distant freaks (INTP)

– INFJ

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Anonymous asked:

How do I live in a world where I'm completely surrounded by feelers or sensors. Like not that it's bad but it's more than I just stand out a lot and it's like, I've got friends who have families with newborn babies and stuff and they show it and everyone's drooling over them and I have to fake it otherwise people stare at me like I'm insane like, is it that weird that I just don't like to do that and that I rarely notice changes like people wearing a new shirt becuase in lost in thought??

I completely get the struggle. As an xNTx, it can be very draining to be in situations that have S or F traits, especially if they involve too much extroverting because it enhances these traits. I also get the “standing out” frustration when all you want to do is mind your own thing. I think too rigid behaviours are not something to strive for and people should try to adapt to others to a certain (limited) degree. We’re different, we don’t work the same way and we’re not interested in the same issues. Why do people have to point it out all the time, making others stand out as if it was not already obvious for that person in the first place. Let’s just get over it. 

To answer your first question in particular on “how to live in a world surrounded by F and S”:

  1. The previous remark on trying to get a little adapted is also applicable to you. It’s okay to show a little more interest than you feel if it’s something that is really important to others.
  2. It is also okay not to do so. If you don’t feel comfortable with yourself because you think it’s too fake, then don’t. 
  3. Sometimes you will feel like you’re different to everyone else in a room. That’s okay. Try to internally validate yourself. I’m sure you wouldn’t want to think differently and your opinion about who you are is the only one that truly matters.
  4. If you end up feeling lonely after these situations, try to engage in activities that validate your own preferences. 
  5. Then try to talk to someone with whom you can relate more. It doesn’t even have to be friends from your surroundings. 
  6. You can always message me talking about the most F and S stuff you’ve been through that day and we can talk about how different we perceive it from everyone else. 

I hope this helps. Your story with the baby pictures is so funny, especially for the way you were wording it. If you want to laugh at my own misadventures with xSFx situations in return, you can find it >here

Keep it up! – INTJ

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xNTx Friends

ENTJ:

  • Crazy schedule, still manages to hang around with friends.
  • Insanely driven. Vital necessity of being The Best™.
  • Doesn’t have time for bullshit, ever.
  • Generally sweet, scary when mad (emphasize ‘scary’).
  • Highly motivated and ambitious.
  • No drama, thank you.
  • Flawless facial control (low-key scary as well).
  • INTP’s recklessness makes her have a mini heart attack every now and again.
  • Manners matter.
  • Has been super busy lately.
  • And by ‘lately’ we mean since always until forever.

Common phrases include:

– “You might find this of some help”. – “This is so interesting”. – “Yes, I’ve read about it”. – “Sorry, I already have plans”. – “I’d actually prefer to do it myself”. – “Really, just let /me/ do it :)”.

ENTP:

  • Sharp tongue.
  • Comeback generator.
  • Laid back attractiveness and incredible charisma.
  • Bulldozer mode when mad.
  • Put-together and confident.
  • Has a fame for being flirty.
  • Hasn’t had that many partners at all.
  • “wrecking ball” (- mother mother) is his life theme song.
  • Is actually quite delicate.
  • Almost all his facial expressions are masks.
  • Hiding his real emotions seems to have become a life purpose.
  • His deep interests surprise most people.
  • “Is very intelligent, but way too lazy at school” squad with INTP.
  • Is seen as a bad influence.
  • Actually has a pretty solid moral code.
  • Fashion style score: BADASS. (the aesthetics are real).

Common phrases include:

– “Think about it this way”. – “Why, am I bothering you?” + smirk. – “Sorry, I wasn’t paying attention to your bullshit”. – “Why does everyone believe I’m lying?”

INTJ

  • Works silently because success speaks for itself.
  • The library is his natural habitat.
  • Very specific fields of interest.
  • Seems very polite, and he is.
  • (Doesn’t actually believe in politeness itself, has only learned to follow formalities in order to make his life easier). 
  • Efficient™.
  • Crisis over personal traits of which the analysis were thought to be concluded. 
  • Really brain, why this again. Why.
  • Has learned to master several skills that he doesn’t even enjoy.

Common phrases include:

– “No”. (Default reply to INTP’s proposes). – “That is /such/ a bad idea”. – “Actually…” (*insert unasked correction*). – “I’m still considering it”. – “What do you mean it’s not polite to tell them how wrong they are?” – “Of course I cannot change my schedule” (to ENTP).

INTP

  • Has strong opinions on matters that she has given a lot of thought (and we mean a lot).
  • Gets overwhelmed by being the center of attention.
  • Became an Ancient Rome expert overnight.
  • Comfy discrete clothes.
  • Deadlines are a very flexible concept.
  • Actually, every concept should be prone to constant revision.
  • Study time is the perfect time for introspection and/or new ideas development.
  • Either absolutely hyped or completely indolent.

Common phrases include:

– “My nights are a mix of insomnia and belated lunch”. – “What if we…” (Proposes crazily awesome plan to INTJ). – “There are pubs in which you can hear a much more refined language than in the Congress”. – “Because apathy is the foundation of my being” (as a response to ENTJ asking her why she doesn’t just /do/ the stuff).

Shared traits

  • Difficulty to compute feelings (we know, we know, ‘such a cliché’. Still true).
  • Allergies: stupidity, ignorance, illogical social rules.
  • “WHY do people refuse to THINK”.
  • Rich lexicon (xNTJs’ default mode, xNTPs’ show it when the situation is worth it).
  • Best debates between them, NFs are sometimes invited.
  • Would always choose knowledge over ignorance, even if it implies unhappiness.
  • “What do you mean it was offensive? It’s the truth!” (As a response to ENFJ).

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