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Hello I wanted to talk about mc magic in lesson 53 they said this about mc magic.

Mephistopheles: When you intervened to protect Simeon, you cast that spell without any sort of incantation.

Lucifer: If not, then it means that the magic you produced was involuntary.

Diavolo: No. If the spell was involuntary, it means the magic is uncontrolled, you see.

But isn’t this a contradiction to what lucifer taught in season 2 lesson 24 of NB?

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Yeah, it's said by both Lucifer and Solomon that if a human/demon is skilled enough, they don't need incantations to use magic.

But I think the way this is different from what happened when MC saved Simeon was that they didn't mean to use magic at all. Like, usually when MC is going to use magic the dialogue options are something along the lines of "use [certain spell]" "do [certain action] with magic" but this time the dialogue options were to either yell out his name or warn him about the attack, meaning that MC's magic manifested itself without any previous intention from them to use it?

Which is similar to what happened in s2, except that this time around their magic acted up on it's own and protected someone instead of causing harm, coming from their worry for Simeon's safety. So MC is unconsciously using magic based off strong emotions they feel and they need to learn to control their powers to avoid causing harm again like in previous seasons.

I guess that the Ring of Light only stabilizes their powers to a point, and MC's magic can still get out of hand if the situation is dire enough?

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So I finished the new lesson and I have to ask, why wouldn't MC tell everyone what happened?

We got kidnapped and thrown into another timeline by an unknown entity who's still out there and will probably come looking for us again, had to deal with the just recently fallen brothers and so much shit happened, and even though time didn't pass while we were gone, the entire cast can tell that something is REALLY wrong, but MC just chooses to let everyone stay confused and concerned and not say a thing?

I thought MC's memories were messed up and that was the reason (they didn't really understand what was happening themself), but from the conversation with Solomon on the phone (that also felt really weird btw) it seems like they're fully aware of everything so...why?

I know they'll probably explain it later, but I'm just leaving my initial thoughts here.

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I'm sorry, I'm re-playing S2 and let me tell you: the way that MC is given the choice to kill Lucifer in order to save the world and they not only refuse but tell Solomon that maybe they all just need accept things as they are (that everyone is going to die) is so-- dhshsjjsjs

What's that one quote, "A hero will sacrifice you to save the world but a villain will sacrifice the world for you"??? MC really said "I'd rather let EVERYONE die than live in a world without YOU" and that's so fucking insane, I swear

Proof that MC is just as unhinged as the demon brothers (if not more) when their loved ones' lives are the ones on the line

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Imagine MC who laughs as a stress response so in season one they burst into laughter whenever someone threatens them, they get hurt, or almost die.

That’d make the situation so much worse.

Diavolo: “Welcome to the Devildom!”

Lucifer: “You will stay here for a year.”

MC: “Heheheh…”

Diavolo: “ Um…are you okay?”

Mammon: “I’ll eat you!”

MC: “Hahahahaha!”

Asmodeus: “Wow Mammon, they’re laughing. That’s just sad.”

Mammon: “Shaddup! Show me some respect dammit!”

Leviathan: “You may not make it back to the human world alive!”

MC: “BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!”

Mammon: “Wh- you idiot! You’re making this worse!”

Satan: “How DARE YOU!”

MC: “Hahahaha!”

Leviathan: “Lucifer! Lucifer HELP!”

Lucifer: “You MET BELPHEGOR!?

MC: “Pft—“

Mammon: “Ah fuck, someone call Diavolo!”

Belphegor: “Struggling to breathe?”

MC: “Heh…heh…”

Belphegor: “Why the hell are you laughing?”

Bonus if they say some really awkward or unhinged shit right after

Diavolo: This is Lucifer, vice present of the student council and my right hand man.

MC: Ohohoh...hahaha... no way... you're telling the actual Lucifer is some grumpy old man with a fancy accent and a stupid suit?

Lucifer: Excuse me?

Diavolo: We found out that you're actually a descendant of Lilith...!

MC: *starts wheezing*

MC: Yeah, right... What are you gonna say next, that Solomon is my dad who ran away when I was a child and never came back?

Asmo: Hun, your dad did what now?

Lucifer: Explain how you got into this fight again...?

MC: This one demon threatened me for bumping into him on my way to class and as a response I started laughing nervously and insulted his mom...

Lucifer: *sighs*

Levi: Man, how does your mind even go there...

MC: I have no idea...

NB!Mammon: Who the hell are ya?

MC: Hahahahah...

MC: ...I swear, I'm gonna deck you in the face if you don't say sike right now.

NB!Mammon: Huh?!

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Nah my biggest criticism of Obey Me is the fact that WE had to apologize for "manipulating" the boys into pacts before they ever apologized for trying to kill us

Imagine you get kidnapped and almost murdered over and over and you have to apologize to your kidnappers?? Are you kidding? I'd laugh in their faces.

It made no sense either because the brothers (minus Lucifer and maybe Satan) knew we were making pacts for Belphegor's sake since we TOLD THEM the reason we wanted the pacts was to "get Lucifer's respect" so he'd be willing to listen to us when we tried to convince him to talk to Belphie and fix their relationship.

Like, they discussed this together TWICE. First at Hell's Kitchen after their pact with Beel:

And the second after the retreat:

And all of them were fine with it?? (It'd be weird if they weren't, we were trying to help their brothers)

So this right here? 👇

Complete nonsense 🫠

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Therapist: *looks up from her notebook* So, what brings you two here?

MC: He murdered me.

Belphegor: And I regret it.

MC: But Lucifer wants us to "actually talk about it" instead of making jokes that "make everyone concerned."

Belphegor: Can I nap in here?

MC: You have a nice office.

Therapist: Uh... *smiles nervously* How about we schedule weekly sessions from here on...?

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I know it's late at this point but here's an idea: what if before hopping into the nightbringer timeline Solomon turned the brothers into seven rings and gave them for MC to wear?

Like, the brothers are stuck on those forms and can't change themselves back because Barbatos didn't want to risk them showing themselves in the past and fucking up that timeline so they're basically locked in those forms until MC comes back to the og Devildom

But they hear everything happening around MC while they're wearing them and can communicate with them inside their head

The comedy potential, like-- imagine them just cringing at the things their past selves do and say, giving MC little tips on how to handle them, etc

The brothers being pissed with themselves for the way they treated MC during their "being consumed by their sin" arcs and everyone (including Lucifer) ganging up to shit on past Lucifer for trying to keep MC in the nightbringer timeline

But also the brothers growing closer after hearing their past selves talk about their struggles with MC in a way they didn't open up to each other back then and finding out stuff they never knew about each other

Them growing a new-found respect for Solomon too, for sticking to MC's side and keeping them safe throughout the whole thing because they can't do it themselves since they're stuck on ring form (yes, I'm thinking about that scene where Solomon shows up right when Belphie tries to attack us. Like imagine the sheer panic the brothers all got into when they realized Belphie was about to strike and MC had frozen and couldn't do anything but then Solomon intervenes and they're just sooooo relieved and grateful to him because of it) plus them understanding him more after hearing him talk about his past and the reasons why he's so set on gaining more and more power

And the angst potential too, of course, them not being able to do anything when past Lucifer tries to kill MC at the fountain, and being worried sick when MC faints and is unconscious for days before they finally "wake up" in their paralyzed state where they're aware of what's happening but can't talk or open their eyes

I don't know, just a silly little thought

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*5 minutes into MC being in the Devildom*

Diavolo: Our kingdom isn't exactly a safe place for humans, but that's why we've made sure to assign you a guardian of your own!

MC: *confused frown* Wh- like a parent?

Diavolo: *stunned*

N-No, not that kind of guardian... 😅

MC: Oh.

Lucifer: I'll have to ask you to refrain from ever again alluding to the calamity of a scenario that would be Mammon having children. I really don't need that kind of extra stress in my life.

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Solomon, Satan, Simeon, Luke & MC: *studying for a magic studies assignment together*

Solomon: *helping MC with a spell* There it is, you did it.

*smiles* You're my best student, you know? As your teacher, you make me proud.

MC: He says as if his other students weren't all dead.

Simeon: *spits out his drink*

Satan: ...! *tries to stifle a laugh*

Luke: *big gasp* MC, you can't say that! And you two, don't laugh...!!

Solomon: No Luke, it's fine. 🥲

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Asmo: Hey, I just passed by Lucifer's office and saw MC sitting by the corner in silence while looking very unhappy, what's going on?

Satan: *reading his book* Oh, that's the new punishment Lucifer has set for them, they have to sit still on that chair for an hour while he works without uttering a single word.

Belphie: Ehh? So they just gotta sit quietly for a bit?

Isn't that too light of a punishment...?

Mammon: Oh trust me, it ain't!

As a fellow ADHD haver, just havin' to sit still for ten minutes would be enough torture!

Levi: Lool, maybe Lucifer should make that his new way of punishing you too then.

Mammon: Hey, ya better not go givin' him ideas!

Back at Lucifer's office:

MC, still sat on the chair: ...What happens if I run?

Lucifer: *doesn't look up, continuing with his work* I'll drag you back, tie you to that chair, and leave you there for the remaining day. Also, you spoke, so ten minutes have been added to your timer.

MC: Fuck.

Lucifer: Ten more.

MC, thinking to themselves: I'm never leaving this room again, am I? 🥲

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MC: You know, it actually takes a lot longer than people think for someone to die from strangling.

Solomon: Oh? Well, that's...interesting. Did you read that on a book or something?

MC: Nah, it's from personal experience. 🙂

Solomon: ...

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At some point during MC's first weeks in the Devildom:

Lucifer: My brother Beelzebub keeps going to the kitchen at random times of the day and eating all our food while no one is looking.

Because of this, me and my other brothers have to take turns checking the kitchen throughout the day to ensure everything is in order.

MC: *confused* You're telling me all of this because...?

Lucifer: Because I need you to stop him. Your room is next to the kitchen, which means you can hear him from there and stop him in time, sparing us the trouble of doing it ourselves.

MC: What do I gain if I accept? 🤨

Lucifer: 30 Grimm for each time you succeed.

MC: *immediately* Count me in. 🤝

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Lucifer: *coming back from the hair salon, having dyed the white tips of his hair black again*

MC: *gasps dramatically* WHO ARE YOU????

Lucifer: The same demon you saw leave the house this morning. Stop being so dramatic.

MC: *pulls out a cross* Begone, strange demon!

Lucifer: *unfazed* MC, there's literally no difference apart from my hair being completely black now.

MC: Exactly! It's ruined! Now you look younger and boring! Your beautiful hair... it's ruined...! 🤧

Lucifer: ...

*internally* I don't think I'm ever dying my hair again.

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Mammon: Wait, wait, wait. So you're tellin' me that if Lucifer had been nicer, you would've never tried goin' up in the attic a second time?

MC: Yeah.

Levi: Wait, what? How…?

MC: Alright, look. There were two reasons why I wanted to go into the attic. One: I was hearing Belphie's voice from there asking for help, and two: Lou was acting suspicious as fuck about it with the whole threatening me and shit.

Lucifer: I-

MC: Shh, let me explain!

Lucifer: …

Belphie: Pff…

Satan: So what, you're saying that if Lucifer hadn't acted the way he did, you would've just given up? No trying to go into the attic, no suspicion, you would've just ignored Belphie's voice and went on with your day?

MC: Absolutely. I mean, think about it: I had just gotten here, and someone not wanting a stranger to go into certain parts of their house is kinda reasonable. And like I said, it wasn't the "not letting me go there" thing that made me want to go there, it was the suspicious behavior!

Because again, you threatened me and just started being an overall dick after you caught me trying to go upstairs.

Lucifer: MC-

MC: But I understand your reasons, you were worried, wanted to protect your family, and bla-bla-bla. Don't worry, it's fine. We've come a long way, I love you, you love me, and there's that. But going back to the topic…

Asmo: 🤭

Lucifer: 👿

Asmo: 😦🤐

MC: So the point is, you catch me going to the attic, and you threaten to kill me if I try doing it again. You don't try to explain, don't try to convince me I shouldn't go there, you just go: "I have this tea that will put you to endless sleep, muahahahaha."

All brothers (except Lucifer): *try not to laugh*

MC: And in my head, I go: "Bet. Imma see what the fuck's up there, and you old man, you ain't stopping me."

Asmo, Beel & Mammon: 😨😦😳

Belphie & Satan: *wheezing in silence*

Lucifer: *glares at them*

MC: But that could've been prevented! Like, if you hadn't threatened me, and tried to explain why I shouldn't go there in the first place-

Lucifer: I couldn't tell you the truth.

MC: Well, you could've come up with anything! Because remember, I had just dropped here, in literal fucking hell. So you could've told me literally ANYTHING and I would've believed you. Like, you could've just told me the room was cursed by an evil spirit or something. Because I'd hear that and go: "Alright, have a nice day. I'm never stepping foot on these stairs again."

Beel: Pff...

MC: But nooo, Mr. Pride had to go: "I won't give you ANY explanation, and I will KILL you if you try going there again." And that combined with the strange voice asking for help? It did not give you a great look, I gotta say...

All brothers (except Lucifer): *already laughing their ass off at this point*

Lucifer: …

Belphie: Wow...

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Simeon: Tell me, if you could choose between being a demon or angel, which one would you chose?

MC: *no hesitation* Oh, demon. Definitely.

Luke: What, why?!

MC: Sorry Luke, I just don't think I'd make a very good angel...

Simeon: MC... Why would you think that...?

MC: I can't follow orders, and I curse too much.

Solomon: *snickers*

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