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note to self, do some concept art before starting an animatic

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simoondraws

...Then Diomed prayed, saying, "Hear me, daughter of aegis-bearing Jove, unweariable, if ever you loved my father well and stood by him in the thick of a fight, do the like now by me; grant me to come within a spear's throw of that man and kill him. He has been too quick for me and has wounded me; and now he is boasting that I shall not see the light of the sun much longer."

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hymnoeides

Sooooo the recent mlp comic loosely based off the odyssey (+ other myths featured)…..

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i actualyl want to really design amphitrite now hold on- and maybe polish my poseidon design he looks like a wet cat

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Something I'm starting to notice about this fandom; y'all can like Epic's version of Odysseus without trying to paint Calypso as a rapist.

Odysseus in the original tale did cheat on his wife. Several times. And there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. But trying to paint him as blameless and all the other women as rapists for seducing him is not the winning move y'all think it is.

Like Tiktok is becoming the worst when it comes to the topic of Calypso.

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katerinaaqu

Have you read Homer though? Because for starters you say "several times" while we have only two female figures in the Odyssey and those are Circe and Calypso.

With Circe Hermes tells Odysseus that he has no choice but to bed her if he wants to save his men who were held hostage and with Calypso he clearly states that he was unwilling:

(I translate both passages in my answer there)

Now of course there is a passage about Calypso which I analyze here:

So no it is not "several times". If anything only Calypso is the person that seems to leave the element of doubt for many and even then the idea that he was willing is clearly debunked by Homer's definitive ουκ εθέλων εθελούση (unwilling [m.] by the side of the willing [f.]).

It is post-homeric scripts including Hesiod that mention the affair with Calypso starts as willing but Homer clearly states that Odysseus was unwilling by the side of Calypso (he even proceeds to write an amazing psychological passage when Odysseus doesn't let women touch him for quite a while for example refuses the help from Nausicaa's maids and wants to bathe himself instead) and Circe was a powerful goddess that was holding his men prisoner at first and then Odysseus claims how much he fears her. Not only does he pray to Gods and begs her to let them go but also passes the night by the ships after they return from the underworld till Circe herself summons him)

It is perfectly fine if you want to follow the idea that Odysseus was unfaithful if you read other sources but interestingly enough Homer mentions how unwilling he was. What is more both of the women that he associated with are powerful immortal goddesses. It is no different than female characters being conquered by Gods in mythology. I am sure you would not blame Leda for "seducing Zeus" right?

And again no matter what even if you assume the affair with Calypso started willingly he was still raped by her. Either it started and he tried to end it and Calypso didn't take no for an answer or he never wanted that and then it is even worse.

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mushyooms

Poseidon: after everything you've done, how will you sleep at night?

Odysseus:

based on this incredible tweet below i only drew over it HAHA
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