To every person who protested Kamala due to her views on the Palestine/Israel war, are you happy now?
magneto is like... fully just a mutant zionist for the record. the man's Mutant Ze'ev Jabotinsky. the zionism contributes to him being morally gray. i wouldn't be surprised if he was created and his character was developed in part as a criticism of zionism and israel, even if more recent runs have just gone straight ahead w/ krakoa being purely a force for good (they kind of removed any ability to have any meaningful criticism for zionism or other nationalistic movements by straight up creating an empty strip of land that the mutants can go live on without any repercussions).
if you're capable of supporting magneto and the creation of genosha, but the instant someone says the word "zionism" or "israel" you're immediately repulsed... man, i just don't think you've got very good reading comprehension skills. i don't know
twitter is a cesspool, but they’re so, so very comfortable saying these things
how did she know you were visibly Jewish? Are you just making shit up for internet clout
This is re the person in the supermarket who was wearing a Palestine shirt, entered the aisle I was in, looked at me up and down multiple times before leaving and only going down the aisle after I left
I absolutely wish I could face reveal rn. But I can't for my own safety.
I look visibly Jewish. Like most people who look at me, do so and go "jew". I have a very Jewish nose which I love very much which has been passed down by my ancestors.
I look so visibly Jewish that when I was 8, I had a boy come up to me at school who I didn't know, and at the time I wasn't walking around telling people I was jewish, and say I have a jew nose and bullied me for being jewish.
When I was 13, I had a different boy come up to me, also say I have a jew nose and follow me around school telling me that I'm disgusting and that he was going to gas me himself.
Earlier this year, I wasn't wearing my magen david as I stopped for my own safety, and these two teenage boys made fun of my nose and called me a kike.
I wish I was making all of this up for clout.
I would trade all the antisemitism I have experienced to make it that I never have and am lying.
Whether you like it or, judaism is an ethnoreligion, jewish features are a thing. People can tell what is Jewish features and what isn't.
And by sending me this ask, you have participated in real antisemitism which I am going to use for "clout"
"how did she know you were visibly jewish?" she... looked. what the fuck is this question? "visibly jewish" means you look jewish, what's there to be confused about.
You'd think the tumblr userbase, of all groups, would get why "committing a premeditated hate crime is okay as long as at some point between you planning it and you doing it, a member of the group you're targetting does something shitty" is a bad precedent to set, and yet
"If there was ever a black, Asian, Hispanic, (or) middle eastern community, where a group of them had done something earlier in the day and there later there's a hunt for every member of that community to attack them, nobody would say it's justified. They'd say these are different people.
The reason that you apply collective responsibility into jews and no other community is because of this concept of de-individualisation. The jew is no longer the individual, they are no longer a singular person. They are part of a collective and the entire collective is responsible for each of its parts. So it isn't just the harm that you justify against jews, it's the harm you justify against all jews that you won't justify against any other community. It isn't just that you treat jews as a collective that are all responsible for each other. It's that you treat jews as a collective but you treat every other member of community as an individual. Who only has personal responsibility. It isn't just seeing all jews as the Israeli government. It's seeing all jews as the Israeli government but every other member of every other community gets to be a person.
We've seen these patterns in history before and these patterns should reveal to you, the thinker, that your brain has been primed to justify harm against a community. And if you are already there, I urge you, I urge you to walk this back"
- Elica Lebon on the Amsterdam pogrom
Being a Dutch Jew, here is some information about the violence in Amsterdam that is either common knowledge in the Netherlands, or is from some sources in Dutch that might not be commonly available for an international audience.
- First of all about hooliganism, Amsterdam's football club Ajax is known as a 'joodenclub', a 'jewclub', because Amsterdam used to have a large jewish minority, many of whom were supporters of the club, and because several Dutch Jews were members of the team at one point. Ajax supporters take pride in this name. Because of this, there is a good relationship between Ajax and Macabbi, and the match was considered at low risk for football related violence and supporters of both teams mixed freely on the train back to the city center. In fact, only a pro-palestine protest was moved away from the stadium, because the police had recieved information that 'harde kern' Ajax hooligans were planning to stop that demonstration.
- On that note, I have seen mixed information on what the Macabbi supporters were singing, but regardless, because Ajax is known as a jewclub, a common chant among the fans of opposing Dutch teams is "Hamas, hamas, alle joden aan het gas," or "Hamas, hamas, all the jews to the gas." Yes, a chant heard at pro-palestine protest is originally from Dutch football. Authorities have been cracking down on it in recent years, but a cursory google found people being arrested over it as recently as may 2023. Somehow, jews have never attacked random supporters of opposing teams at matches where this was chanted. Any Dutch person trying to justify things would be well aware of this.
- About media coverage, I get my news about Amsterdam from Het Parool, a left-of-center, Amsterdam-based newspaper, that grew out of a WWII resistance paper. This is the current (about 16:30 Dutch time) front page of the newspaper website. In it the violence is described as an 'antisemitische klopjacht' an antisemitic manhunt. Most articles about it are paywalled, but firefox screenreader mode can bypass it.
- Finally, I recognised a lot of the terminology in intenational news coverage from yesterday's press conference by Mayor Halsema (the woman in the picture above), which was also shown live by the dutch public bradcaster. In it an AP reporter asks in Dutch about Macabbi provocations, and they partially quote the police chief's answer, but not Mayor Halsma who came in right after, and said that the violence was in no way justifiable. I'm linking the full YouTube video of the press conference below. It is mostly in Dutch, and I have no idea about the quality of the autotranslation, but at about the 30 min. mark an Al Jazeera reporter asks a similar question in English, and the Mayor's answer in English is very clear.
I don't have time for a full transcript, but Al Jazeera English asked 1) What about how the fans/Israelis/Jews provoked Arabs by tearing up the Palestinian flag and chanting hateful things and 2) If the mayor felt that Israel was being over-reactionary in its response, which consisted of immediately sending in planes to transport its citizens back home and whether or not this is insulting to The Netherlands and making it seem like their government was incapable of handling the situation.
The Mayor responded:
- What happened last night was not a protest, it was a crime. And no amount of "provocation" makes those actions acceptable. She did describe the context generally and had someone else explain the context more in detail. And while tensions are high and there was disrespect, it still does not justify the crimes that took place.
- While she is not responsible, and does not wish to be responsible, for official statements about the Dutch relationship with Israel (and she directs the "reporter" to ask those questions of the Prime Minister, whose job it is to answer them), she says that after more than a year of tensions and trauma she absolutely understands that Jews might be losing patience and saying less than kind things and be motivated by anger and frustration.
This was a very graceful and appropriate response.
At this point anyone I see calling themselves "anti-zionist" I'm going to assume is antisemitic.
So much of this boils down to white guilt and the desperate desire to shift that guilt onto some other racial group that they can label as Even Worse Than The Whites and therefor be absolved of ever having to think critically about their own actions and privilege ever again.
I just saw someone describe the phenomenon of all kinds of minority groups allying with people who want to kill them too as long as they also want to kill Jews and accepting all the bigotry that goes along with that even when it's directed towards them themselves as "intersectional antisemitism" and um yeah wow I think that is a really useful term.
Watching DP with friends for the first time. Coming to conclusions
Wisp of a Thing is one of my favorite fanfics for that reason
This is your daily reminder to learn your Jewish history with pride. We renounce Jewish hate in all its twisted forms.
yeah the claiming of Jewish figures and prophets as Muslims is a major supercessionist problem with Islam specifically that people don't actually talk about
That's a huge vein in the entire antizionist movement that goyim don't want to deal with.
“a satanic symbol” referring to the Magen David is a very old, very stale (very untrue) libel too.
you will not be surprised to learn that not only was the commercial spot in question not “about how we all need to stand with Israel”, but israel & palestine are not referenced or alluded to in any way whatsoever.
here’s the ad:
it’s not even an ad primarily about antisemitism. it’s a campaign called “Stand Up To All Hate” about standing up to racism, Islamophobia, homophobia, sexism, antisemitism, etc.—all hate, as the name suggests.
and, for a split second, there’s a kid wearing a kippah. that’s it. shaq appeared in an ad where a kid wears a kippah and that is what is getting him accused of “supporting genocide”
“it doesn’t matter what zionism ACTUALLY is because it's being used to justify horrible crimes-“ ok well antizionism is being used to justify hunting down jews in the streets. so where does that leave us exactly.
And another reason why the whole "apartheid" claim is fucked up is the DARVO of it al. Do you know how many years Jews suffered under what was essentially apartheid?
Unable to own land, to vote in their country, relegated to certain careers, at the mercy of the next antisemitic attack....
Like quite clearly Arab (and other non Jewish) citizens of this country have equal rights, the dame as Jews.
In the few middle eastern countries where small populations of Jews still live, they do still suffer under apartheid. Countries like Iran have seperate penal codes for the majority Muslim population and everyone else. A Jewish man was just executed in Iran for killing a Muslim even though it was ruled to be self defense, as he was attacked in a hate crime. However under Iran's penal code, if a non-Muslim kills a Muslim, the family of the killed gets to decide whether or not the perpetrator is executed, even if it is ruled self defense. They decided they wanted him dead. If he hadn't been Jewish the family would have had no such power to decide his fate despite the court ruling the killing self defense
@gingerswagfreckles This deserves a reblog