see though. the thing is. me being pretty and flirting with a guy can absolutely make him feel entitled to me and my body. but the fact that he finds me attractive doesn't mean i OWE it to him to find him attractive. you're acting like I'm choosing not to be interested, when in reality i can't and won't force myself to pretend to be attracted to someone I'm not interested in just because they'll be upset i don't reciprocate their feelings. I'm not 'leading him on'--he's just refusing to process his emotions like an adult and treating me like im maliciously choosing not to be into him
I’m like, personally offended that achilles wasnt in the underworld saga at all. the conversation he has with odysseus is really fun.
this segment from the odyssey is really cool, this is the first thing Achilles says to Odysseus in the underworld. He characterizes Odysseus by his wits, and simultaneously refers to him as “Incorrigible”.
Achilles and Odysseus are parallels. Achilles knew from the beginning he was never going to return home, and Odysseus’s journey home is literally Fucking Cursed to be deadly and dangerous. They are the mortal parallels to Ares and Athena, Wrath and Strategy. They are one in the same, and all too different.
here is another screenshot from that website describing odysseus and achilles’ conversation.
Yeah i just really like them.
Honestly I would have loved to have a whole song, separate from "The Underworld", where Odysseus actually speaks with everyone like he did in the Odyssey. Achilles, Agamemnon, Heracles...
But alas, EPIC is an adaptation, and not always a completely faithful one.
Specifically, though, the whole Anticleia scene; I wanted the chance for her to say,
"...So too fate brought me to the grave. It was not the clear-sighted Goddess of the Bow who slew me in the palace with gentle arrows, nor did I die of some disease, one of those that often steals the body’s strength, and wastes us wretchedly. No, what robbed me of my life and its honeyed sweetness was yearning for you, my glorious Odysseus, for your kindness and your counsels."
A. S. Kline
If we're going with the "Odysseus needs to shed his kindness" theme, as we are in EPIC, I think it would have made a poignant song.
ohhhhh the way I want to write a whole essay on the parallels between achilles and odysseus because there are sooooo many of them and things I can draw from oh my lord the thoughts I am having @prompted-wordsmith someone tell me to write it. jesus fuck