#want to sound like a broken record lmao. i think the point of my post was to reiterate what i said in my response to your ask anon

Anonymous asked:

completely agree with ur thoughts on sam being 'woman coded' but what do u think about ppl saying dean is. I don't think he's woman coded because he likes to clean or whatever moreso because he's been shoved into a weird position in his childhood where he comes out of it acting like the eldest daughter. Does that make sense

hi, anon! i actually wrote about this on a post that i since deleted. i think his ‘girl coding’ is heavily influenced by john’s parentification and emotional incest. i actually see him more narratively compared to women (if we’re going off of family dynamics on the family is hell show) than sam, but this isn’t me arguing for him being girl coded. idk if that makes sense. it’s more like, if we’re going to talk about that, can we talk about it in a way that doesn’t compare sam and dean’s masculinity? because a lot of those readings don’t take into account dean’s femininity and kind of use him as what a man is, when he’s consistently over performing masculinity as part of his mask.

under the cut are the screenshots of my rb on someone’s post about dean’s typical girl coded readings, which were all the things u mentioned. my views on these types of readings have also evolved since I wrote this, so please keep that in mind.

#also quick disclaimer i think i was being a little too ‘i see what u mean’ about sam’s girl coding because iirc #i did Not ‘agree’ but understood what they were saying so i think this is part of why i ended up deleting it #there’s other reasons and most of them come back to my gripes with the aspects of bio essentialism in the ‘girl coded’ stuff but i don’t #want to sound like a broken record lmao. i think the point of my post was to reiterate what i said in my response to your ask anon #which is that if we wanna talk about this stuff then we should but if sam’s ‘girl coded’ readings are dependent on dean #and his masculinity and the contrast between them then i don’t think it’s that solid of an argument #and also to shed some light on how i perceive dean’s relationship with femininity and part of why he over compensated with his #performative masculinity that’s not truly who he is #supernatural #dean winchester #sam winchester #hw.asks #whiskey speaks #gendernatural