#anyway lol – @monsterfuckermilligan on Tumblr

i’m sure this has been said before but when adam and michael are talking in the bunker about the possibility of michael’s dad being a grade a asshole, there’s something so so so important to me about how adam points out michael’s hypocrisy.

ADAM: Point is…. Parents keep secrets. Does it hurt to ask the question?

MICHAEL: Yes! It would mean I doubt him. The good son; the favorite doubts his father.

ADAM: You still care about that? After he left you in the cage?

this matters because michael was JUST criticizing sam and dean for leaving adam and how he is in unable to trust them. he doubts them because of their actions.

MICHAEL: You’re asking me to trust you. You who doomed me, you who let Lucifer walk free while your own brother sat in Hell.

in turn, adam is pointing out that clearly michael has a line for his family members and it’s been crossed by michael’s own, so why is his dad any different than sam or dean? what makes michael different than adam? why does his dad get to betray and abandon him and still get michael’s trust and loyalty? ~~why is michael expendable?~~

he’s really tapping into michael’s beliefs that were just established to us as the audience at the diner. (ie: family sometimes hurts you and just because they’re blood relatives or ‘family’ doesn’t mean they have your best interests at heart. sometimes there are things more important than family, sometimes walking away from your family is freedom) and he’s holding michael to the same standard he’s set for the winchesters.

side note: another thing i enjoy about this interaction is that adam is being gentle, although it 100% appears as if they’ve had this conversation before since he literally rolls his eyes, and not to mention that michael is an archangel. he could easily be mean or not even care about his feelings or michael could not even take his opinion into account and do what he wants. but despite everything, adam asks for michael to listen to him, and he does. and in turn adam appeals to him with logic and reasoning, because he’s overall a very rational and strategic being that’s simply been groomed from the get go in his dad’s weird cult. adam appeals to his emotions in a way that’s familiar. they share this experience. adam knows michael is protective of him and that it’s easy for michael to hate sam and dean for the same things his dad has done. but michael’s own lack of self worth that was drilled into him by his dad for aeons is being challenged, and it’s uncomfortable for him, but adam doesn’t back down and he helps get through to him. it’s really a great scene. this post wasn’t meant to be so long but yeah i have lots of thoughts about this short interaction!

#also the fact that michael compares him and adam being together for years (around 50k) as comparable in importance….#he’s not saying that adam is less important he’s presenting a logical fallacy. there’s been so much time. he can’t change his belief now #it’s been eternity! what does that mean for him? it’s the logic of the sunk cost fallacy #he’s invested so much time in it that he has to continue and adam is pulling him away with appealing to his compassion for a situation #adam was also in. and the nail in the coffin was castiel showing him those memories. it’s one of the reasons why #15x19 feels so odd because he is very 0-100. he 100% had faith his father and then had no faith in him #so it feels kinda ooc for him to suddenly go back when he spent 6 months coming to terms with something he had already been questioning #then for him to go back to his dad? why? what does he gain? both he and lucifer actually have this issue where their motivations aren’t #exactly established. we can assume lucifer is told a paradise type fantasy where he gets to have jack or something of equal importance #and we can assume michael is told that he will bring adam back but both of them have been betrayed so many times (and so recently) it’s #whiplash for them to be suddenly team god again. also michael killing lucifer is ooc imo as well #it just feels too convenient considering jack needed to absorb more power in regards to both their deaths #anyway lol #supernatural #adam milligan #dean winchester #sam winchester #spn #michael spn #15x08 #spn 15x08