it came to my realization that 99% of my fandom related headaches would be cured if everyone understood this
proud “this type of media fetishizes abuse and shouldn’t exist” antis who are jackfuckers r peak leopards eating faces partygoers. the same people you’re standing beside are the same ones who have or supported doxxing people and calling them p*dos for thinking jack kline is an adult character who can be interacted with as such.
#the people calling jack a literal child are the people who also bully/harass wincesties for simply existing#because they feel morally superior for viewing jack as his ‘canonical age’ despite his existence being unique and him regarding himself as#an adult and being treated like one. they’re the ones who call people who ship jackharper gross and disgusting#they’re the ones who make people think that anything involving nsfw content with jack needs to be marked as underage on ao3#and as a jackfucker you can get mad all day about wincest/winkline and want to exist in a little bubble without it#but ultimately there’s a reason that jackfuckers are often wincest or winkline shippers#and it’s because they’re not in a moral purity dick measuring contest who say there’s a ‘correct’ way to interact with jack’s character#or (as) involved in sanitizing his character so that he’s a baby in an adult body because they can’t grasp the concept of him being a nephil#where his existence doesn’t abide by human rules and his physiology/psychology is inherently different and influenced by#having a power imbalance to the winchesters while still lacking experience and knowledge but being cognitively competent as an adult#all this to say that jackfuckers are superior but jackfuckers who are strong antis have a lot of#cognitive dissonance going on due to anti culture and fandom purity culture which is ironic but understandable as it is#cool and hip to be an anti these days for whatever reason despite most antis not actually being antis and simply#wanting to be seen as morally good and correct versus actually being a book burner#because antis are book burners. there’s no other way to describe them atp#supernatural#whiskey speaks#fandom purity culture#fandom wank#jack kline
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purity and cancel culture make people think artists who write, draw, sing or make things about subjects that are (rightfully) considered disturbing and socially unacceptable — as well as fans who like fictional things that are (rightfully) considered disturbing and socially unacceptable — are “red flags”, “predators”, “deserving of having their hard drives checked”, etc, when in reality people can like or make fictional things about subjects that are (rightfully) considered disturbing and socially unacceptable without condoning these things in real life.
artists who create (fictional) contents about triggering subjects aren’t automatically “predators who condone these terrible things in real life”. artists who create (fictional) contents about triggering subjects are just artists who create (fictional) contents about triggering subjects.
people who like (fictional) contents about triggering subjects aren’t automatically “predators who condone these terrible things in real life”. people who like (fictional) contents about triggering subjects are just normal people who like (fictional) contents about triggering subjects. for reasons that aren’t nobody’s business but their own.
(as long as they don’t act out these things in real life and hurt real people, they’re normal people like you and me, and 99.99% of people who like fucked up fictional things are normal people who don’t hurt anyone in real life.
if someone watched a fucked up movie and acted out the antagonist’s crimes in real life, then it still meant that this individual was already fucked up and a predator, and they would have done terrible things whether or not they watched a fucked up film; the art itself don’t make people do terrible things.)
art has never been restricted to only rainbow and sunshine and unicorns.
art is also about the depiction of macabre, things that are disgusting, unpleasant, violent and unacceptable. (as long as nobody in real life actually gets hurt.)
you can’t claim to “accept art and artists” and then say “but if you write fics about (X) or if you like this movie then you’re a red flag and are disgusting 🤢”
it’s absolutely okay if you personally hate these types of fictional works that revolve around triggering subjects that are (rightfully) disgusting and socially unacceptable, it’s okay because it just means these types of works are not for you (no one forces you to watch, read or listen to them), but it’s not okay if you start harassing artists who create or people who enjoy art you personally hate, just because you hate them and therefore you believe other people must hate them too or else they’re terrible people.
you are a terrible person if you harass anybody in real life over fictional things that aren’t real.
you are the one who aren’t able to separate fiction from reality.
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sorry
or fuck someone up tremendously with the worst mommy issues imaginable, permanent grief, a guilt complex about surviving, give them a responsibility they never asked for, suicidal ideation, and horrific identity issues
oh wait yeah that happened with jack
*coughs* anyways
#i hate coming back to tumblr and then being like oh yes this is why i logged off for a month#hehe haha i hate being adopted#disregarding like everything about my own personal experience just the fact that this shirt and these jokes exist fucking annoy me#sorry i’m having a moment#angry adoptee#moment to be specific lmao#but also im right#like in regards to jack. so there’s that. AGAIN the only person who can talk about adoptee adjacent jack is me!#now y’all have got my brain going grrrr jack brain worms ahhHhHhh#i need to stab something#jack kline#supernatural
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"Being over-involved is no longer parenting." ↳ 11.21 - ALL IN THE FAMILY
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Forgive me if this doesn't make sense but
Dean understands himself. He is not drowning in internalized homophobia. He doesn't not know that he's into men. What Dean is, however, is a liar. He lies to everyone, all the time. I think this touches on the queer experience in a way we dont always see in media. We always talk about coming out and coming out scenes but why never talk about why we come out. It's because of how difficult the lying is. But deans lied about everything, all his life. Not just about his sexuality, or things related to hunting. But he lies (directly or by ommission) about the music he likes, the clothes he likes, literally everything, just to fit into this box of what everyone expects him to be. He understands himself, you just don't have the critical thinking skills to see past his lies, you take his word at face value even though the show has told you repeatedly that dean is a liar
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Jack: *passes out*
Sam: Oh my goD Jack fainted!
Castiel: Quick! Call 911!
Dean, panicking: What’s their number?!
Jack: *wakes up momentarily* Seriously?
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Kidnapper: I kidnapped your kid
Dean: And I assume you want me to pay for ransom?
Kidnapper: No I will pay YOU to take him back
Jack in the background: Tie it tighter I can still feel the bloodflow!
can someone follow me so i have 69 followers? thanks
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Anonymous asked:
oh that is an amazing fic i love all of their fics so much
it is and *gazes lovingly into the distance* sameeeeee
Anonymous asked:
completely agree with ur thoughts on sam being 'woman coded' but what do u think about ppl saying dean is. I don't think he's woman coded because he likes to clean or whatever moreso because he's been shoved into a weird position in his childhood where he comes out of it acting like the eldest daughter. Does that make sense
hi, anon! i actually wrote about this on a post that i since deleted. i think his ‘girl coding’ is heavily influenced by john’s parentification and emotional incest. i actually see him more narratively compared to women (if we’re going off of family dynamics on the family is hell show) than sam, but this isn’t me arguing for him being girl coded. idk if that makes sense. it’s more like, if we’re going to talk about that, can we talk about it in a way that doesn’t compare sam and dean’s masculinity? because a lot of those readings don’t take into account dean’s femininity and kind of use him as what a man is, when he’s consistently over performing masculinity as part of his mask.
under the cut are the screenshots of my rb on someone’s post about dean’s typical girl coded readings, which were all the things u mentioned. my views on these types of readings have also evolved since I wrote this, so please keep that in mind.
#also quick disclaimer i think i was being a little too ‘i see what u mean’ about sam’s girl coding because iirc#i did Not ‘agree’ but understood what they were saying so i think this is part of why i ended up deleting it#there’s other reasons and most of them come back to my gripes with the aspects of bio essentialism in the ‘girl coded’ stuff but i don’t#want to sound like a broken record lmao. i think the point of my post was to reiterate what i said in my response to your ask anon#which is that if we wanna talk about this stuff then we should but if sam’s ‘girl coded’ readings are dependent on dean#and his masculinity and the contrast between them then i don’t think it’s that solid of an argument#and also to shed some light on how i perceive dean’s relationship with femininity and part of why he over compensated with his#performative masculinity that’s not truly who he is#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#hw.asks#whiskey speaks#gendernatural
Anonymous asked:
It's also because Sam x Dean, y'all need someone to be the "woman" in the relationship. It's gross and sexist as fuck.
Gay couples do not need a "woman role" or "male role" in mlm couples. Gay men can be bears together. Not everything has to be stereotypical.
Lesbians can be both girly and sweet. Yes they can be fem x masc but they can also be fem x fem
You people just hate to see Sam as what he is. A man who is kind and caring and vulnerable, a man who actually has feelings, a man who's actually somewhat of a decent person.
i agree with you, anon. albeit less harshly, but i’m not going to tell u to be polite about it because you can say what u want in my inbox haha. in regards to what ur saying, i often see the same dynamic with dean and cas, where cas is coded to be ‘the girl’ in the relationship, and this especially picked up after jack was introduced. it’s quite annoying to me personally because it is steeped in heteronormativity (in my eyes) and stereotypical gender roles. in the case of wincest, this is what it turns into: sam is the woman and dean is the man (and this often turns into dean is the abuser and sam is his victim) and i simply don’t see the point in arguing for that’s how things are in canon when that’s not the case. people can do what they want when it comes to headcanons and meta and allat, but i do think when u break down what people are saying it is ultimately rooted in gender essentialism, misogyny, and a pepper shake of homophobia, because as you said, queer couples don’t have a heteronormative dynamic. that concept is rooted in homophobia. and yeah, i think in that regard, you’re right as well. sam is soft [compared to dean] so he’s the woman. like get me out of here lmao men who are kind, caring, and vulnerable do exist. it’s also not an inherently feminine trait to talk about your feelings.
#and again i’m reminding people that i’m ftm because a lot of the time the justifications for sam being ‘girl coded’ are things that could be#said about me. so there’s probably some influence there#if there’s anyone who is more educated on these concepts please feel free to send me an ask or dm me or whatever. i really enjoy#this discussion#oh and when r we going to talk about how sam might *talk* about his feelings but very rarely feels them#and mostly intellectualizes them *coughs* and then proceeds to get annoyed at dean for expressing his emotions#😳 anyway#i don’t mean to be rude i really really don’t. i see all points of view with this and i appreciate both sides#talking about their readings and how y’all view these characters. there’s just something about ‘girl coded’ stuff with sam#that nags at me and i can’t exactly figure it out still. i think it’s a mix of things#but as a trans person and an autistic who likes to read about gender theory and such….i can’t ignore it completely#and do see that the same threads that are constantly pulled on and when i pull on them it sometimes reveals something icky to me#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester
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different person here but also, dean does constantly compare sam to female characters, especially in the early seasons, which is a big part of the reason i (and others) think dean somewhat sees sam as a women/questions his masculinity
i understand that, anon, and i also think supernatural was made in 2005 and the writers were/are misogynistic. this falls away more in the later seasons, especially when dean becomes more comfortable in his own masculinity and femininity and isn’t performing to the degree he is in originally. i don’t take much stake in this as a reading unless it takes into account that dean is the one who is narratively compared to women (he’s named after his grandma, deanna, compared to mary, has baby as a metaphor for his body who he refers to as she/her, is a direct comparison to amara, etc.) and is chastised for being too emotional by sam. it’s not to say that they’re invalid readings, or that headcanons aren’t perfectly okay, but i think when we’re comparing two characters who are written as men (particularly cis men) in canon, discussing who is more girl coded is just odd to me. that’s my personal opinion. i’m a big fan of transnatural as well, so this not a criticism of that by any means. headcanons, fanart, fanfic, etc. do not have to be based in canon. but i stand by my belief that many of the people who say sam is girl coded in canon are particularly focused on the pain and shame of femininity, and i just don’t like to think in that way. i think we could better focus on characters who are written to be women.
#this is possibly influenced by me being trans so take that caveat as you will#on the topic of transnatural tho: where’s transfem charlie? claire? alex? literally any women#i see t4t deancassie and i loveeee it so i wish we saw more of that. i usually see a Lot of focus on sam with this stuff and i get it bc#they’re our two main characters but i also wish there was some more variety. trans!amara enjoyers WHERE R U!#i also might be projecting bc there’s not enough transfem dean content when there’s more basis in canon imo#men who are insecure in their masculinity often pick on people who are secure in their own as a projection. i think that could be a valid#reading of dean but i never see those discussions. it’s stuff like u said anon#and this isn’t me picking on u or vehemently disagreeing or anything. i just wish there was more variety and nuance in the topic#whiskey speaks#hw.asks#sam winchester#supernatural#dean winchester
Anonymous asked:
ngl you should drop that midam fic link, even tho I've prob already read it
hehe i’m fairly certain it’s no shortage of sordid (no protest from me) <3
