just-another-kurtsie replied to your post:The Harrowing of Ohio? Heaven & Hell on Glee.
Did you see my meta on Cupid and Psyche relative to Kurt and Blaine? Psyche journeys to the Underworld, and then drinks the elixir that makes her equal to Cupid.
No, I haven't seen that meta, and I'd be very keen for a link! It's a fairytale & myth that's dear to my heart with Kurt & Blaine; e.g., it's a motif-y thing that recurs in ITWOS. (They even do a little roleplay!) I've liked Psyche's story for Blaine especially much. Psyche is a BAMF.
notenoughtogivebread mentioned Orpheus & Euridice in a reblog. Both Kurt and Blaine have been, at various points, Orpheus. (I had that vibe so strongly back in 2x18, even as it was changed up a bit, the resonances are there from the start in "Teenage Dream" "Don't ever look back".)
And Kurt has been Thoth to Blaine's Osiris and Sebastian's Seth. And he's been Janet to Blaine's Tam Lin, and Blaine's been Persephone or Adonis, called back to Hades in the autumn but holding the promise of rebirth in the spring.
(And some have talked about Blaine and Inanna/Ishtar as well, though I still generally associate Inanna more with Santana.)
Anyway, mash up all the stories! There are a lot of dying gods and journeys into & out of the underworld and fairyland, all the stories!. It's a very powerful mytheme & I love the way Glee riffs on it. (which is not me implying or assuming intentionality, btw, for new readers.)
The Harrowing of Ohio? Heaven & Hell on Glee.
This is kind of a continuing conversation for me, but I have new followers, so I'm unsure how to carry on with it exactly? I'll just jump back in, though I'm very rusty.
(tl;dr I like symbolism and myth and Jungian archetypes and all the stories.)
All right. From the NYC as Paradise and/or Heaven from seasons 4 & 5, to Rachel's 6x01 declaration of having died and gone to Hell, Sue's triplet of Cerberus evoking dog heads & McKinley's atmosphere of explicit imprisonment & punishment, Blaine being back in fairyland, and Kurt's sad but hopeful, "maybe we can find our redemption here together?" I spent some time thinking again about the Descent Into The Underworld mytheme again. It's recurred on Glee several times now & looks like we're in for another round of underworld shenanigans this season.
Cut for length. A warning if needed? I'm referencing a pre-biblical Christian myth from an atheistic standpoint.
A little more 5x20 Kurt/Blaine clothing meta
Okay, so this shirt (see previous post, it's the blue printed polo Blaine wears in "Pompeii") isn't printed with tiny mandala-like symbols as I first thought, but tesselating hexagons with little suns and/or daisy-like flowers inside them:
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(cutting for length)
fashionofglee:
Paul Smith Mushroom Print Silk-Blend Scarf - $175.00
Worn with: Paul Smith sweatshirt
I noticed the mushrooms! Mushrooms are a new motif. But, in an episode with a lot of mortality in it, fungi flourish in decay. They transform death into new life.
Ooh can I do mushroom meta? Because they don’t just decompose. Lots of mushrooms are symbiotic with plants - they effectively let plants expand their roots, getting water and nutrients the plant wouldn’t have been able to access before. In exchange, they get sugar from the plant.
And this episode was a lot about Kurt expanding his roots, so to speak - seeking out new opportunities, getting into new areas. It was, in some ways, also about symbioses? Relationships that benefit both people in different ways.
Yes! More mushroom meta! :D Symbiosis with plants is very, very cool, since plants are the foundation of life, so this reinforces that lovely sort of ecological ouroboros, a cycle of endless return. (The Circle of Life)
gettinglostinneverland, also pointed out in my inbox that most/all of these are poisonous mushrooms.
dreakristina I’m in New York y’all! #glee @ Kurt & Rachel’s Loft
Circular (!) mirror looks like its border is made up of serpentine kind of scales, like Ouroboros: eternal cycle/return/renewal.
Bebe Printed Scuba Mini Skirt - No longer available
Printed minis are Santana’s go-to. Here are some cute alternatives:
(making a new post because I can’t tag answers any longer.)
Anonymous asked you:
phoenix tattoo mirror image of promo image — you can find it at tinsley transfers temporary tattoos phoenix xl 106
Thank you, Anon! Yes, this looks like it exactly! :D Awesome!
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And another, better quality screen grab.
wait. that’s his? i thought it was an unnamed character.
It's unconfirmed. Hence the glee speculation tag. But last night we were discussing that this could be Kurt's back (slim, masculine, the right skin tone?). The "Kurt's tattoo for bl" tag is so people who don't enjoy discussion of Kurt and a tattoo can skip the post. I'm sorry if i was vague. We don't know whose back this is; it might be Kurt's, when he gets the botched initial job fixed. But, we don't know. Regardless, the phoenix is a really interesting symbol, whether it's Kurt's back or an extra.
(making a new post because I can't tag answers any longer.)
Anonymous asked you:
phoenix tattoo mirror image of promo image -- you can find it at tinsley transfers temporary tattoos phoenix xl 106
Thank you, Anon! Yes, this looks like it exactly! :D Awesome!
[SOURCE]
And another, better quality screen grab.
I am just fascinated by that neckpiece he’s wearing in this scene, because it’s not any of his usual ties or cravats or scarves, and I can’t find it anywhere on fashionofglee. It looks more like a collar than a twisted neckerchief, and like it might be studded the way some of his other unusual neckpieces have been…and it’s more pink than purple (at least on my current screen).
Items around Kurt’s neck usually has to do with either death stuff, or his ability/loss of ability to speak.
I'm 99% sure that it's a fuchsia/magenta bandana with royal blue paisley and a black border (there's a photoset I reblogged where you can see it better, check my #unexpected paisley tag), and yes, some death stuff there in the paisley, which has origins in Persian art as a representation of the cypress tree (funerary, the underworld, death, but also incorruptibility and eternal life). Additionally, the paisley has origins in Indian art too, where it represents the mango fruit (eternal life again, food of the gods, spiritual attainment, and perfect divine love).
Is anyone gonna talk about how the other girls took Tina and basically gave her a cleansing ceremony. There were closeups of them using the towels to wipe her clean. She came out a different person.
Or was that just how I saw it?
nope totally saw that too. And the boys recreated her crowning ceremony and gave her new title/persona.
Anyone else seeing this as a rebirth? I mean, I know the point of Carrie was that she kills people, but with the cleansing and the new dress (her old dress looked like she was molting) and the way she stands on stage and announces her name…I don’t know, it was like watching a phoenix to me.
I just realized that catyuy basically said that (she’s a different person), but is anyone else thinking that maybe Tina died on that stage?
ALSO SHE LITERALLY COMPARES HERSELF TO JESUS
Instead of just taking the forced, blood-red baptism, Tina opts to be cleaned and reborn properly.
When Sue was announcing the prom queen nominations, Tina was thinking "Please let it be me God, please let it be me Yahweh" and they did the repetition of the phrase "bigger than Jesus" (which is a Beatles reference)
In S4E11 Sadie Hawkins, Tina asked Blaine to the dance by singing “I Don’t Know How to Love Him”, Mary Magdalene’s song from rock opera “Jesus Christ Super Star”. This was a different season, but the same school year, as this episode.
ALSO INTERESTING Kitty presumably got her new outfit from that costume rack they cleaned and dressed Tina behind, which is also presumably former Glee costumes, right?
So Tina comes out in Kitty’s dress, and Kitty comes out in jeans and a white shirt, and I go “that looks familiar”.
At first I thought it must be from S1E14 Hell-O’s “Hello, Goodbye”, due to the Beatles theme, but that song had suits for the boys, and black dresses with white boys for the girls.
The jeans + white shirt combo is from S2E3 Grilled Cheesus, from the final song of the episode, “(What If God Was) One of Us”, in which Tina was the first soloist to begin the song.
Oh, I missed the mention of Yahweh! The Beatles episodes are very determined that we remember everyone’s proper race and religion (half-Black John Lennon, Asian Blaine, Black and Jewish Rachel Berry, Jewish Tina Cohen-Chang).
It’s amazing that Kitty slips into one of the “One of Us” outfits, considering she’s dropped the act of being obnoxious about her religion.
I’m watching Funeral and it just makes me think of how Finn is connected to death almost as much as Kurt is (along with Tina and Artie) and how there should be more meta about that.
Also, death not only brings Kurt and Blaine together romantically, but also leads Finn back to Rachel, though the occasions are different.
[whispers] endgame
Also, one of my favorite ever Glee scenes is Quinn and Finn in the car after Jean’s funeral. It says so much about both of them.
more proposal related rambling. life, death, and growing up...
Remember how we talked, last season, about Blaine playing, starting with the cups and jump rope in the courtyard for “It’s Time?” And Isabelle’s advice to Kurt to keep his youthful optimism? … and now, when they finally come back together after that divide, their song in the courtyard this year is about nothing so much as play. And this time (not for the first time, or the last), they’re playing together.
Remember the discussion about Dalton as fairyland, and the dome as a mausoleum, and how both Kurt and Blaine needed to escape its enchantment, and is it really a good place for them to get engaged? … and now, look at Dalton in “All You Need Is Love.” The doors have been literally thrown open, the place has been filled with color in a way it never was (and we see areas that we’ve never seen before) - it’s been transformed.
Remember, again, that Burt called Blaine and Kurt kids when Blaine asked for his blessing to propose to Kurt in “Wonder-ful.” But in “Love Love Love” he says that Kurt is a man (and can make his own decisions). And… I wonder if that moment on the staircase, where Blaine promises ‘fearlessly and forever,’ knowing, I think, what it means… isn’t when he stops being a kid, too.
I think so, too. It was in the quality and sentiment of the speech, I think, which was *surprising* in a way--deep and sincere--coming after the overly idealized political rah rah set up of "Help" and Blaine's reflexive/defensive "Kurt and I will have a happy ending". When Blaine started speaking on the stairs, under the dome, was when I believed he was ready for this. And I think, the very real possibility of Kurt saying "no" (via Kurt's expressed uncertainty) added to the sense that this wasn't an act of immaturity for Blaine, but an enormous leap into a new mature love. (The risk Blaine took there was huge). Even if he doesn't get all that forever will entail in the same way Burt explains it to Kurt, Blaine's ready to face that great unknown, with Kurt, fearlessly. He grew a lot last season, and, yeah, it makes sense for him to come back here, to Dalton, when it's all reaching this threshold for them both. (And for some reason I'm thinking about supernovae again--since we talked about them last season with all the astronomy stuff--and those big star ending explosions being engines of creation and life, because it's embedded in our atoms, and that wheel keeps turning symbolically on Glee: death rebirth death rebirth...)
Old symbolism meta: the Dalton dome
I learned something new this morning. I’d been thinking of that dome as resembling the top of a cage and hadn’t thought much more on it beyond that. But, I was poking at Wikipedia this morning, I discovered something I didn’t know about domes, which I had thought essentially started with the Pantheon, but they’re older (I realize this may not be news to others):
"from the late Stone Age the dome-shaped tomb was used as a reproduction of the ancestral, god-given shelter made permanent as a venerated home of the dead.”
and
"…the dome had also become associated with celestial and cosmic significance, as evident from decoration such as stars and celestial chariots on the ceilings of domed tombs."
and
“The Christian use of domes acknowledged these symbolic associations. The traditional mortuary symbolism led the dome to be used in Christian central-type martyria in the Syrian area, the growing popularity of which spread the form. The spread and popularity of the cult of relics also transformed the domed central-type martyria into the domed churches of mainstream Christianity. In Italy in the 4th century, baptisteries began to be built like domed mausolea and martyria, which spread in the 5th century. This reinforced the theological emphasis on baptism as a re-experience of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The dual sepulchral and heavenly symbolism was adopted by early Christians...” [x]
Dalton isn’t just a cage, it’s a tomb. But it’s one from which you may be resurrected.
Reblogging more old meta because this all seems relevant again to what we saw in 5x01, the death (conversation with Burt/Dalton is otherworld) and funerary (the lilies brooch is interesting) stuff, Kurt dressed like a peacock (a symbol not only of Hera (and thus matrimony [marriage proposal] and maternity [reminders of Kurt's mother]) but also of Christ's resurrection [this is Spring] and immortality [Blaine talks about forever and eternity]), and of course the reading that the proposal itself was the [spiritual] wedding in many important ways.
And hey, look, in 5x01 we have symbolic death & resurrection.
So, the proposal has had me thinking about Kurt and times when he is emotionally overwhelmed in the best possible ways. I started thinking about how much I like that Chris Colfer plays that overwhelmed-by-good-things with a certain degree of shock or fear or something (that I've seen some attribute in 5x01 to Kurt not being 100% on board with his own saying yes somehow? IDEK. It doesn't make sense to me.)
But, anyway, I think it's super interesting and smart, and it tells us a lot about Kurt and how when he gets the dreams he's coveted most passionately (and he's always wanted the forever romance just as much as he's wanted this artistic respect and accomplishment), that achievement comes with a kind of existential alarm and moment of disbelief. In this photoset, the dream is the standing ovation from an academically and artistically highly qualified and critical audience in New York. It's something Kurt has always desperately wanted, this particular validation (but maybe feared was an impossible dream).
He has a similar response when he actually gets the NYADA acceptance letter at the end of the episode. He looks outright distressed. Rachel assumes something terrible has happened when she sees his face. But as he speaks to tell her, and the good news settles, he smiles as the joy comes through.
These are moments of enormous transformation, and, as we talk about a lot in this fandom, death is the big transformation metaphor. So these moments of achievement are also moments of loss, and in those moments, Kurt is aware of this. I love that about him, especially as he comes into adulthood, how conscious he is of this mutability in our lives. As Burt says to him before he goes to meet Blaine: "You know this [that we only have limited time] better than anyone."
yet another not a reaction post
Post premiere Tumblr is overwhelming me today so am going to head off and do other things for a bit. But first:
This is not well organized thinking. I'm still processing the engagement: