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𝖩𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖺 𝗀𝖺𝗅 𝗐𝗁𝗈 𝗌𝗉𝖾𝗇𝖽𝗌 𝗐𝖺𝗒 𝗍𝗈𝗈 𝗆𝗎𝖼𝗁 𝗍𝗂𝗆𝖾 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗄𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖣𝗋𝖺𝗀𝗈𝗇 𝖠𝗀𝖾. 𝖠𝗇𝖽 𝖨 𝗌𝗈𝗆𝖾𝗍𝗂𝗆𝖾𝗌 𝗁𝗒𝗉𝖾𝗋𝖿𝗂𝗑𝖺𝗍𝖾 𝗈𝗇 𝗏𝖾𝗋𝗒 𝗌𝗉𝖾𝖼𝗂𝖿𝗂𝖼 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗌 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝖣𝗋𝖺𝗀𝗈𝗇 𝖠𝗀𝖾. 𝖨 𝖺𝗅𝗌𝗈 𝗁𝖺𝗏𝖾 𝗆𝗒 𝗈𝗐𝗇 𝖺𝗅𝗍𝖾𝗋𝗇𝖺𝗍𝖾 𝖼𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗇 𝗐𝗈𝗋𝗅𝖽 (𝗐𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖨 𝖼𝖺𝗅𝗅 𝖣𝗋𝖺𝗀𝗈𝗇 𝖠𝗀𝖾 𝖯𝗋𝗂𝗆𝖾) 𝗐𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝖺𝗅𝗅 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗉𝗈𝗌𝗌𝗂𝖻𝗅𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝗈𝗍𝖺𝗀𝗈𝗇𝗂𝗌𝗍𝗌 𝗂𝗇 𝖺𝗅𝗅 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗀𝖺𝗆𝖾𝗌 𝗅𝗂𝗏𝖾𝖽 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗂𝗇𝗏𝗈𝗅𝗏𝖾𝖽 𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗌𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗒. 𝖤𝗏𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗎𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗒, 𝗈𝗇𝖼𝖾 𝖨 𝗀𝖾𝗍 𝗉𝖺𝗌𝗍 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝗌𝗍𝗌 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗅𝗂𝗌𝗍𝗌 𝖨'𝗏𝖾 𝗆𝖺𝖽𝖾 𝗈𝖿 𝗋𝖺𝗇𝖽𝗈𝗆 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗌, 𝖨 𝗐𝖺𝗇𝗍 𝗍𝗈 𝗐𝗋𝗂𝗍𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝗍𝗍𝗅𝖾 𝗌𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗎𝗇𝗂𝗏𝖾𝗋𝗌𝖾 ☺️ 𝖻𝗎𝗍 𝗎𝗇𝗍𝗂𝗅 𝖨 𝗀𝖾𝗍 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾, 𝗒𝗈𝗎'𝗅𝗅 𝗆𝗈𝗌𝗍𝗅𝗒 𝖿𝗂𝗇𝖽 𝗆𝖾 𝗉𝗈𝗌𝗍𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖼𝗋𝖺𝗓𝗒 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗈𝗋𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝗈𝗋 𝗌𝗂𝗆𝗉𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗈𝗏𝖾𝗋... 𝗐𝖾𝗅𝗅, 𝖺𝗇𝗒𝗈𝗇𝖾 𝗋𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗒! 𝖥𝗂𝗇𝖽 𝗆𝖾 𝗈𝗇 𝖳𝗐𝗍/𝖷 𝗍𝗈𝗈! @𝗆𝖺𝗀𝖾𝗌𝖿𝗈𝗋𝗍𝗁𝖾𝖽𝖺𝗌 🐉
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Ahh, Lucanis. So let me first say, his scenes make total sense and I'm happy with what we got - we all want more from our faves, but they did manage to compact a lot of trauma and resolution in some fairly compact quests. Here's what I think happened that wasn't made explicitly clear though:

  • Lucanis chooses the pantry to sleep in because he's been imprisoned and tortured for a year, and he's not ready to leave captivity yet, not inside his head. He locks himself in there because it's familiar misery to him, which is easier to deal with than scary freedom.
  • Lucanis' letter to Rook before he asks Emmrich to bring Zara back for questioning tells us he's suicidal at that point, and probably has been for a while. Spite, however, doesn't see him as a lost cause - he never uses that to take over Lucanis' body entirely. This is so interesting to me, when we know things like that pretty famously happen all the time in Thedas. He's determined to keep Lucanis alive - and he asks for Rook's help in doing so.
  • We are in the NORTH now BABY! Attitudes towards spirits and demons are different here, especially in Rivain, and it seems with our Rook too, who never expresses any chantry-esque hang ups (that I've seen). Seer Rowan greets Spite as Determination, and that's how he's introduced by Isabela (with some excitement) if you fight in the hall of Valor. What happened to Spite is just as sad as what happened to Lucanis. He was violated, perhaps corrupted, and definitely trapped - and hurts Lucanis sometimes in his frustration. But, I think he likes Lucanis! He's his host's little head gremlin, and I think the relationship they have (that we don't see too much of) is healthier than any of the possessed individuals we've seen before.
  • Because? Lucanis is not a spiteful person. He wants revenge, yes, and he's angry, but he doesn't hurt everyone around him because he's in pain. One of the first things he does when he becomes part of the team is go shopping for them. And despite how Ilario and Caterina have hurt him - and you can argue all day whether he's right to be like this - he still cares for them.
  • I think that when we help Lucanis leave the prison inside his head, we are helping Spite to return to his original nature as Determination just a little more. We're determined to help our friend, and you know what? Spite is too. For himself, firstly, because Lucanis's pain is hurting him, but in the end, he's done it for Lucanis too. There's an argument there that Determination didn't get corrupted at all - just hurt, and that Lucanis, with his loving nature, has been keeping him from turning into a mindless demon of pain.
  • I thought for a long time that when Lucanis breaks away from kissing Rook, it was because Spite said something horrible to him. But actually, I think it was Lucanis himself, remembering how trapped he is. Thinking about the eventuality of killing himself - I strongly suspect that's what he was thinking about before he fell asleep, and that's why Spite was trying to go walkabout - trying to get out from where Lucanis can't. Lucanis got lost in the moment, but of course he doesn't want to drag Rook into that.
  • Lucanis making dessert for Rook and thinking that's the same as asking them out (but not actually asking them out) is so completely on brand for him I laughed. He has no idea what he's doing. It would have been nice, though, for Rook to reply to one of the companion's 'so you're together?' banters with... 'we are?' Or for Rook to be able to ask him. Unfortunately, we don't get those convos where we can spam ask questions etc like in DA:I - I did wonder if that got cut and we missed some resolution to that.
  • Lucanis gives no shits about everyone knowing he's Rook's love interest. He's not ashamed of himself or scared he'll hurt them - Rook has helped both him and Spite. And judging by the way Spite's wings come out to embrace Rook as they kiss Lucanis, I suspect that Spite might love them, too.

Oooooh, I love absolutely all of this but I especially want to point out the line about how Lucanis isn't spiteful. Like, usually you think of abominations as demons possessing a host, and usually demons need to find the right one: desire, pride etc, they can only possess someone if they have that emotion to fuel themselves. Another abomination we know that did start as a spirit is Anders, who had a very strong sense of Justice.... But his more complicated emotions eventually turned that to Vengeance, which again was something that fed off of Anders himself.

But Lucanis and Spite were forced together, neither by choice. Determination was tortured as much as Lucanis was, and eventually became the demon we know; but then the host he found himself in didn't possess the kind of fuel that spite would require. Sure there are other intelligent demons out there, but personally I feel like Spite has even more facets, maybe because through Lucanis, and with Rook's help, started to heal and find that determination again. Like the determination to speak up in protection of Rook when Solas is talking to Lucanis.

Ohhhh I have so many feelings about them ❤️

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