madockisser reblogged
trick question eva youre getting both
tfota as weird Pinterest pics lol part 3
Cardan and nicasia that time they went to the undersea together (idk abt this one guys)
How Val, lolli, Dave, and Luis looked to everyone after glamouring themselves in the mortal world:
Prince dain when coming to the conclusion of kill his gf and baby or become king instead(he has deer legs do u get it):
the roach when Jude miraculously healed him from an incurable poison and his almost gf confesses her love for him right after:
madoc scheming to kill the bloodline that he was sworn to and betray the prince helping him so that he could put his son on the throne and be king:
Humans w their Rowan berries and salt to the fae:
Jude trying to remember her school work, spy work, poison ratio she has to take every night, and her training w madoc (she is actually insane for this bro):
Madoc when Jude brought cardan into balekins coronation:
Madoc when Jude exposed his plot and beat him at a duel after poisoning his wine:
how cardan expected Jude to come home to him after receiving his love letters:
lol check my masterlist for the other ones bc linking them is too much work ok bye 🫶
Jude/vivi and madoc parallels
Jude gets revenge on Madoc not just by scheming to keep madoc from coming into power, but by doing to him and oriana what he did to her mother and father.
of course, Jude didn’t kill them, but she did take their child from elfhame to be raised in the mortal world.
She made a changeling out of oak after madoc made a changeling out of her and her sisters.
I like how Madoc and Jude both could use the excuse of having “honor” to justify why they did it. Madoc took Jude and Taryn out of honor and obligation, perhaps a little shame and guilt. Jude whisked oakey to the mortal world out of her obligation not toward him as a sister, but as the high kings seneschal and by being loyal to the greenbrair line, because oak too, is a greenbriar prince.
The same way she goes out of her way to protect cardan consistently is the same way she protects oakey. She was loyal to first dain, then cardan, and through protecting cardan does she protect oak.
anyway- meanwhile madoc, betrayer of the greenbrair line, plans to put oak, his adopted son, on the throne, but in doing so would he more than likely cause oak great trauma. The same way he traumatized his girls, partly by shoving them into the violent and unforgiving high court.
He was loyal at first to eldred, then to balekin, and was ready to be “loyal” to oak before jude stepped in. (Wayy later he was eventually loyal to her and oakey: “I’ll bend my head to you, and only you”.)
add on: i like how madoc raised Jude to always have honor and loyalty, and Jude absolutely lived by that. Through living that way, she maintained her relationship w Taryn, continued to serve in the court of shadows after dains death, serving the greenbriar line thru oak and cardan, became elfhames queen, and was loyal even during her exile. Meanwhile, madoc was loyal-less he had more ego and power hunger than honor, and it cost him everything, his status, his home(bro got exiled), his relationship w his family, nearly everything.
anyway those parallels are crazy, they mirror each other really well. Their plans were literally opposite, but their methods, using multiple greenbriars to come into power, were similar. only Jude was loyal and had good intentions and madoc was not loyal and had bad intentions.
Now, Vivienne and madoc are opposites in this, vivienne didn’t kill her lover and take the lovers children, instead, she brings her lover a child-brother to care for with her.
Anyway idk moral of the story madoc is a hypocritical idiot and Jude is so much better than he ever could’ve been lol.
i also love how Jude learned everything from him. ofc by being the model soldier, endless loyalty and strength, swordmanship, strategy. and then she used it all against him, all while having loyalty to the king. maybe it’s not as a big deal to have honor in tfota as i thought, esp since madoc seems to lack it sm, but i always thought that he’d be pretty proud of her for beating him all while doing what he couldn’t. Being loyal and having honor.
i love Jude’s character sm. she is so loyal and she really does what she can for her family no matter how much it hurts her. On the other hand, madoc does things for his family but sacrifices their well being for it. 😭😭 their parallels are endless and i could go on and on but I’ll spare you
this was just thought soup,(i said the word “honor” way too much didn’t i) and i really hope it made sense lol, feel free to add on! 🫶
tfota pictures w captions for giggles (i hate the word meme guys i can’t take it anymore)
faeries upon eating in the mortal world (namely madoc, vivi, oak, and Kaye):
madoc when Jude yelled at his green ass in tpt:
Eldred when all of his sons turned out to be absolute cunts that all wanted him dead(the land of promise was his only option but it’s ok bc his son beat him to it):
Valerian watching with his pale blue eyes as Jude, from across the battlefield, destroys cardans ego (secretly wishes it was him):
Dain and balekin to each other throughout the entire first book and probably long before that:
Cardan when jude never found out that he sent her a pretty dress and instead forced him to be king instead (atleast she tied him up👅):
Madoc locking in when his least fav prince finds out his dead wife was actually living happily w three kids including his own with his human servant blacksmith, and that prince uses that info to make him do his bidding:
Half of the royal family (pic reminds me of grandpa eldy tho) spotting cardan and Jude having a very heated fight across the mock war field:
Jude when her sisters bitchass husband who is also her ex bf jumped her for fun and stole her sisters wedding gift so he could give it to her sister instead:
How i see oak in every book he’s in: (this FUCKINF PICTURE LMAOOO)
Part 1: here
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madockisser reblogged
How is no one talking about- “Alive or dead, I never cared for him. I only cared for you. If you're sorrowful hes gone, then I am sorry for that. If you wished he were returned to life so you could kill him again, I recognize that feeling. But perhaps you dispensed justice and are only troubled that justice can be cruel.” …. Not only does Madoc understand his daughter to such a good degree that he mentions how she did justice and just doesn't like that justice is violent, he also validates her feelings and has compassion for her, even though he personally does not understand her feeling of mourning over killing someone. Like…. Say what you will about Madoc, but he was a damned good father, though misguided at times holy fuck.
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Anonymous asked:
Ive just finished reading tfota series and something that makes me go awww was Jude wearing a ring that Madoc gave her then Cardan using it to propose to her.
Im very invested in Madoc and Jude's relationship. Father-daughter relationships are such a ride.
This ask makes no sense haha
Jude’s wedding ring symbolism, + how madoc and balekin play into Jude’s place in elfhame
hi! yes omg i adore the complicated Jude madoc relationship, and how cardan comes into play with how madoc sees her and treats her.!
not sure if you can call it a parallel, but madoc bringing Jude into elfhame, and also being the sorta non present ring bearer at their little proposal is kinda crazy to me, while Jude was the one who earned the seneschal title all herself, madoc was still the one that brought her to elfhame, and i think that ring represents that.
say what you’d like about madoc, and I’d probably agree, but him and balekin play such a crucial role in both Jude and Cardan’s upbringings/ how they turned out.
and it’s funny that just before cardan proposes to Jude and marries her, jude kills balekin.
The man that is solely responsible for her being in elfhame.
I see it’s as quite symbolic, like she has finally earned her place in elfhame by killing balekin, not just by becoming its seneschal and queen.
She earns it her own way, the way madoc taught her to. she doesn’t earn her place through cardan, or through having power over cardan (though that undeniably has a large role)
She earns it by killing that man that was responsible for the death of her parents.
Then she ties the knot officially by exiling madoc.
And it’s not just what balekin means to Jude, but also to cardan.
I’ve said before that balekins death was very necessary. Not just to the fate of elfhame and the undersea and whatnot, but to cardan and his happiness.
I like how cardan finally marries jude after balekin is finally dead. And while he doesn’t know it, it also feels a bit symbolic to me.
Like now that balekin is dead, cardan can finally be free of his abusive hold and have the relationship and feelings toward humans (and one human in particular) that he wants.
Anyway, sorry for the word soup, im emptying my drafts, waiting very impatiently for my faeries never lie book to come. feel free to add on!! 🫶🫶
madoc and eventually jude following into her fathers steps. father like daughter ig
madockisser reblogged
Father’s Daughter 🔥 | this a piece that I did for a DTIYS of a fellow artist and I loved it. What do you think?
jude duarte everyday in tcp and twk:
eva duarte:
cardan greenbriar:
what oriana thought jude was gonna do to oak:
jude to cardan throughout twk:
nicasia and orlagh to everyone, all the time:
cardan and valerian tweaking over their sadistic crushes on jude:
Madoc/ Oriana parallel
something about oriana cutting liris womb open to salavge all that is left of the woman she loves and madoc cutting down eva and taking the twins to salvage what he had left of the woman he loves, is what makes me love orianas and madocs relationship so much.
the parallels between a loving friend, using a blade to honor her close friends last wish, to protect and save the child whom she then protects with her life and regards as her own child,
and a general’s bloodthirsty, vengeful nature, of which tends to spiral out of control, using his blade to defend his honor, and then caring for the children of his victims as though they are his own, are just so fucking beautiful.
I could’ve worded this better but i will say this now and forever, holly black, you are a fucking genius.
and i am waiting on that madoc/ oriana book pls 🙏🛐
(Emptying out my drafts bc i have 82 of them but most are unfinished)
#tfota#the cruel prince#jude duarte#the folk of the air#holly black#tcp#madoc#oriana tfota#madoc tfota#madoc x oriana#oriana x madoc#the wicked king#eva duarte#jurdan#jude#taryn duarte#vivienne duarte#vivi tfota#tfota analysis#fota#the cruel prince series#the folk of air#the folk of the air series#folk of the air
madoc after learning how to live in the mortal world:
madockisser reblogged
𝙈𝙮 𝙛𝙖𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧'𝙨 𝙛𝙖𝙫𝙤𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙚 𝙙𝙖𝙪𝙜𝙝𝙩𝙚𝙧
This is my entry for @/eclipvze_art (ig) 's DTIYS! Had a lot of fun with it <3 Make sure to check her original illustration in her instagram profile!
madoc/eva/jude memes out of pinterest pics of animal ppl or old men, spoilers for tfota trilogy! pt 1. out of what will probably be many
how madoc probably looked trying to seduce eva in the mortal world (he has catlike features do u get it):
madoc when he found his unfaithful ex wife was alive after she ran away w their child but she was married to his blacksmith and they had two more children together (his only rational choice to recover from this was to kill them both and steal their children):
madoc when his unfaithful ex wife’s daughter, that she had w another man, poisons him and ruins his only chance at becoming king:
madoc when his unfaithful ex wife’s daughter, became the 2nd highest rank in elfhame in a few days after it took him his entire life to become the grand general, and even then the royal fam treated him like garbage, but he saw how the last royal left loved her, while also treating him like garbage:
madoc when his unfaithful ex wife’s daughter, became a better ruler than he ever could be:
madoc when his unfaithful ex wife’s daughter, pretended to be her twin sister after kidnapping her, and then infiltrated his camp to spy on him and later foil his plans:
madoc when his unfaithful ex wife’s daughters husband turns into a giant snake and is heading straight toward him (and crushes his already bad leg, effectively crippling him):
madoc when his unfaithful ex wife’s daughter, exiled him after he killed her parents, repeatedly treated her like garbage, and stabbed her, and left her for dead:
hope this made sense lol here’s part 2
Could you do a analysis on Jude and Taryn’s human beauty compared to the fae beauty
faerie beauty standard, human/faerie attraction, jude and taryns beauty, and short faerie breeding analysis!!
hi, gladly!! this is another long one bc to fully understand, i threw in some faerie facts lol! hope u don’t mind!
let’s start w what we know,
holly says (at a washington convention !!) that faeries and their beauty is very alien like. they can be beautiful in many ways, beautiful in a way that is not sexually attractive. she compares faeries with the alien man in the movie “shape of water” (this was all found on a tumblr post by a deactivated acc!!! i attached a cropped pic below of the extent of what holly said!)!!
above that pic however, is a letter from holly black herself, explaining faerie beauty standards and if humans would find jude or nicasia more beautiful, to which she says that humans would find jude more beautiful, bc humans have different beauty standards as well.
she also says that beauty is suggestive, which it is. what i am attracted to in a person differs from what YOU are attracted to in a person. this is the same for faeries.
their standards of beauty are ofc centered around faeries and not humans. but that does not mean that they do not find humans to be beautiful, bc they can and many do!
but to them, it’s just a different sort of beauty that they are familiar with, humans do not look like falling stars, they do not have translucent teeth that only shows when they catch the light. they do not have fangs or webbed fingers or green skin.
another thing abt humans and faeries is that faeries can be very skinny and lanky, and jude says that her fingers are rounded like her cheeks and ears, while the opposite is true for faeries, they have cutthroat jawlines and cheekbones, and pointy ears.
every faerie sees humans differently, and every human sees faeries differently. ESPECIALLY since faeries have advanced eyesight, and can see in the darkness, makes me wonder if they can see shadows very well, (like if jude’s eyes always look amber, like the sunlight is shining in them, which is what cardan implies in htkoelths when he says that her amber eyes are alight, despite them flying at nighttime.)
anyway, to make it simple, you can compare it with human traits, hair color, eye shape, hair cut, lip shape, smile, teeth, etc etc! what YOU find attractive or pretty in a person is yours and yours alone, no one will have the EXACT same attraction as you (ever heard someone say “i don’t see the appeal”??)
anyway, take for example, eva duarte and madoc. madoc is a big green guy w tons of sharp teeth that poke from his bottom lip and two cat eyes. YOU may find that scary or ugly, but to eva, she is attracted to him. whether she finds him handsome is another story, bc attraction and good looks don’t always go hand in hand-yk how ppl are attracted to funny but unattractive ppl, it can be like that.
now let’s compare how cardan sees jude. cardan is attracted to jude, lusts for her and desires her despite not liking her, because he’s attracted to her. he later on reveals that to him, her beauty is overwhelming, distressing, alarming, etc.
BUT he also says, “some of you may swear jude is unlovely” bc that is the faerie way, jude does not conform to the faerie beauty standards of being this sunrise eyed, blue haired, skinny to death sort of beauty, like faeries do.
now onto jude’s overall appearance:
we know jude is of average height; abt 5’4, she has the wavy red-brown hair of a willow tree, and she has amber eyes. she is described by kaye, as someone who is comfortable in her body, someone that has the body of an acrobat, or a soldier. jude says that she is musclier than taryn, and only when she rises from the undersea does she look sickly and pale. (just mentioning that i don’t think she is pale skinned, i imagine her w warm brown skin) and lastly, she has freckles across her body.
i also wanna add that another things faeries and humans do not have in common aren’t just their looks, but the shape of their bodies. jude’s hips and breasts are heavier than that of a faeries, mainly because faeries are so unfortunate in fertility, that their bodies do not grow to suit childbearing, because few of them have any children at all if ever.
i suppose that trait is something that could’ve been passed down through natural selection(or they just simply were never built for childbearing), as faeries started using human midwives and human women to help care for babies had, and to help strengthen the bloodline. (bless it w the fertility that comes w being a human)
and since faeries breed true (if a human bears a faerie child or if a faerie bears a child w a human, the child will still be very fae, more than it will be human) human characteristics (like heavy breasts and wide hips) are not passed onto those children, and instead they acquire glamour, curse breaking, magic weaving etc.
now onto jude:
one thing abt hollys writing that differs from many other authors is that she does not consistently remind the reader of the main characters looks.
but, fortunately for us, jude’s looks are described a few times by a few faeries.
in book one, immediately, valerian comments that jude and taryn are recognizable in any crowd, and that there is no head more plain.
which i actually find funny. since he was attracted to her.
nicasia in the first scene that she has any lines, speaks down on jude’s appearance, comparing jude’s looks to that of a faeries beauty, “did you think [this hair pin] would make you as we are?”
nicasia says that jude is not pretty like faeries and merfolk are, bc she isn’t, which jude finds disheartening bc the fae are painfully gorg if they aren’t frighteningly disgusting.
now me personally, the way that ONLY nicasia mentioned jude’s looks out of the whole group makes me think she’s sorta insecure bc she knows that locke is seeing one of the twins, and she’s not outright dumb, she prob also sees that val and cardan look at the twins in such a heated sort of manner.
but again later on, nicasia actually ends up calling her a “pretty thing” so, pretty contradictory but she just means that jude will never look the way a faerie does, but she admits that jude’s still pretty in her own way.
later on, jude visits the mortal world, where “milo” the human boy, circles jude at the mall before approaching her, hitting on her, and asking for her number, promptly before jude clocks his shit for grabbing her. (as she should queen, what was he grabbing at her for 🙄)
time passes and locke tells jude how beautiful she is (twice, like a “winter night”), yaddah yaddah yaddah, in book two, balekin says jude has a pretty face, and ofc smooches on her, and val moren calls jude pretty. in book 3 grima mog calls jude pretty, and later grimsen takes a liking to jude since he likes pretty things (pretty sure he said something to her abt that along those lines, or oriana did, too lazy to get my books)
as for taryn, jude often says how pretty she is, like a princess out of a story book, soft and beautiful, how impossible it seems that they share the same face. taryn also encounters a faerie that describes her beauty as “divine”
i mention all these things bc faeries cannot lie, so jude is beautiful, atleast in those faeries eyes.
lastly, i wanna add; that of course there is human-faerie sexual attraction, bc cardan feels it for jude, as does valerian. jude feels that way for cardan, and once even locke (? tbh she didn’t long for his touch like she did cardan so) but there is also eva and madoc, val moren and eldred, whom val moren was willing to burn his life away just to feel eldred touching him again, there is val and ravus, and hazel and jack. and more.!
so moral of the story, while jude’s and taryns beauty do not fit the faerie beauty standard, they are still seen as beautiful and desired by many faeries, just not all of them, since they all have their own attractions.
i hope this made sense, and thank you for the ask! feel free to add on in the cmmts!
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pinterest photos i found as tfota characters (but it’s only jude and eva) and it’s pre canon or set during tcp (tcp is so comforting to me idk)
jude getting ready for schoo 😛(or a ball ig):
jude wandering madocs stronghold to look at his foul ass redcap:
jude and l*cke smoochin it up by madocs crib:
jude’s fit when traveling to the mandrake market to watch madoc argue abt overpriced faerie products to the vendors (he’s def one of those dads that has the money to buy expensive shit but NEEDS the cheapest price available):
jude laying in bed thinking abt how much cardan hates her and being physically unable to breathe bc she just hates him sm!:
eva duarte contemplating faking her death bc when the hell will her deadbeat husband come home from war:
eva duarte getting ready for another night w out her goblin husband (may or may not end up cuddling it up w the human blacksmith idk):
eva reuniting w madoc after he was away at war for like 362358 years:
justin duarte appearance assumption
i think that holly black was watching spanish dramas/telenovelas when writing the justin duarte/eva duarte/madoc love triangle, bc a beautiful woman leaving her sexy husband for another sexy guy to go live a better life just screams the plot of a spanish drama show
anyway i imagine justin duarte as this absolute looker, seeing as his appearance isn’t described…
jude says that justin would never raise a hand to even discipline the girls, and madoc says that justin was interesting and strange, personality wise.
justin refused college,(it totally caught me off guard when madoc mentioned college bc WHY does he know what college is LOLL 😭 unless eva mentioned it or smth) and chose to #studytheblade
a human woman snuck him into museums at night so he could study ancient blades (bro prob seduced her (or he was just so fine) like why she out here risking her job for nothing(but i get it babe))
he traveled to fairfold to discover grimsen and asked grimsen his opinion on justin’s work, then made his way to elfhame at some point where he met madoc and eva and worked at madocs estate crafting blades since he was the greatest human smith in the land (and could’ve been the greatest smith ever if he kept practicing but gave it up for eva, which i think is so bittersweet)
anyway, i always imagined him young and naive since he was dumb enough to brag abt stealing madocs wife (i would too king)
but overall a sweet loving dad, and a caring husband, willing to do anything to protect his family. (including burning a pregnant humans body w eva, assuming they did that together, and also trying to take madoc down when he came to their house)
this is how i imagine him younger, in the 90s or so, working at madocs estate (the actor is not latino but this is sorta just how i imagine his appearance)
but as he grew older and continued #weldingtheblade and also being a father and a sexy husband, i imagine him as:
the man here is a mexican actor (and from the 60s or something), but i forgot his name since i made this post ages ago and just now am editing it 😭
for the younger pics, i wanted him to look more boyish, and in both pics i also wanted to atleast attempt to encapture the fact that he is canon latino, (which is crucial to include, but i imagine him w darker skin, it was just absolutely impossible to find a match that looked like irl flyyn rider(which is how i imagined him during the book) but w darker skin) and i imagined him having wavy/ curly hair!
since the duarte twins had wavy/curly hair as well, i imagined both him and eva having wavy / curly hair.
and ofc i wanted to find a reference that was super good looking bc i also imagine madoc being super good looking, so it sorta makes sense why eva and him started screwing around (looking past the logical reasons lol)
anyway here’s mr steal your girl! i’m not sure if anyone actually gaf abt him (and precanon tcp in general) but i sure do!! and since i made an eva version i wanted to make a version for him.
lastly i just wanted to add that these are ofc opinion based, especially since, again, his appearance isn’t mentioned at all. i just love speculating on all tfota characters, esp such important ones that had little page time! if u imagine them differently, which i’m sure u do as everyone is subjective, then great! feel free to add on or speculate in the comments!