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Steven Universe side blog where I like Garnet a lot okay
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i'm so glad i've mostly dodged the pearl/greg discourse lol. taking umbrage with doodles that arent even canon is silly. you are getting angry at literal colors and shapes. go outside.

if you want my actual interpretation, i see pearl as a lesbian in canon. i think that's probably more-or-less what they landed on, since canon never implied otherwise. in later seasons, she has like 500 gfs and nothing else is mentioned. she seems annoyed at male attention.

but i also see SU as a land where gender and sexuality are fluid, even more than in other gay media. gemkind approaches the idea of earth gender from an outsider pov. i think that's very intentional, this gender-nonconforming perspective from a non-binary creator. it's not just a gay show, it's a queer show.

the boundaries we call "gender" aren't that strict. amethyst can transform into a "male-passing" wrestling persona on a whim, then undo it just as quickly. steven can do drag and gems can present all over the place. its never a big deal. nobody cares whether their gender is "supposed" to do that.

i also think seperationism is lame as hell. i dont see a need to police who gets to be included in what gendered label, especially in fictional self-expression. all of that is based on a very strict, cisnormative, binary ideal of gender in the first place. that's not to say your individual, strongly held binary identity (i'm a binary man!) isn't "valid", just that being honest here, we cannot afford to police this stuff without invalidating other people. and while critique is allowed, i think one should be especially cautious in critiquing other people's creative expression of their own gender and sexuality.

Agree--as presented in canon, Pearl hasn't shown any interest in anyone who wasn't a Gem or a human woman, and has spurned the attraction of at least one human man (Dewey). But if the show had taken stuff in this direction, made this part of Pearl's character, then THAT would have been fine TOO.

Just like in real life, attractions that happen can change what we call ourselves. It would be OK if characters did that too.

And it's important that we understand our existing attractions do not constrict what attractions we can have in the future. If you are queer or have a large number of queer people in your social circle, the first thing you'll notice is this shit is MESSY. And I don't mean that in a negative sense. It's not easily defined. It doesn't stay in boxes. It doesn't always have a term immediately available. But the worst thing we can do with that is say "it can't happen because Person A identifies as Identity B." What we have to do is let the label catch up to the person. The messiness is exploration; it's freedom and adventure. It's one of the best things about queer communities. We splash around and find out what's out there, if we're fortunate enough to escape from the expectations that have always told us we'd be wrong to jump in.

They DIDN'T end up writing Pearl with attractions toward men onscreen, but if they had, that wouldn't have been an insult to lesbians. It would have just revealed aspects of her that we hadn't known about. (And we sure got some unrelated-to-sexuality revelations about things that had always been part of her toward the end of the show, so it wouldn't have been unheard-of.) Pearl makes sense how she was written in the show, and she'd also make sense if these writers had written her a different way, because past does not dictate present or future. I would have trusted Sugar and the Crew to carry that version of the story too, and do justice to it. I have several very queer people in my life who are in relationships that look heteronormative from the outside. Queerness involves throwing away the chains of what an identity label expects you to do and letting your feelings lead the way--and worrying what to name it afterwards.

There are lots of developmental materials that did not become canon and I think people also need to realize that. It's also true that Crew members played around with what-ifs, and now that we have the story they chose, looking at some of those what-ifs feels a little weird to some of us. It's OK if some of the things they thought about doing contradict with what they ended up doing, even if we like the final product better.

Oh yeah and as an addendum I really wanna emphasize that "what we feel now doesn't preclude things we can feel in the future" is NOT an excuse to tell someone ELSE, from OUTSIDE, that whatever they identify as isn't real and therefore lesbians should date men or asexual people should keep trying to be something else, etc. I understand that it's a problem (especially in women-loving-women circles) where sometimes any trace of fluidity is a signal that someone can come and demand that an individual person TRY to change. Recognizing fluidity, evolution, reevaluation, and broadening horizons is NOT the same thing as suggesting everyone is fluid and therefore obligated to TRY to change. (Especially, as I said, if it's through pressure from outside.) As an asexual woman I've had tons of pressure, mostly from men, to "be open" and "stop being so close-minded" when I say I know what my attractions are. Same goes for lesbians. This is a matter of respecting and recognizing when someone follows their own heart to something we didn't know about them before (and THEY may not have known about themselves before). It is NOT an excuse to pester queer people into doing something they AREN'T into, perceiving them as having no convictions of identity, or rewriting someone's real identity into something others can and should negotiate.

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i'm so glad i've mostly dodged the pearl/greg discourse lol. taking umbrage with doodles that arent even canon is silly. you are getting angry at literal colors and shapes. go outside.

if you want my actual interpretation, i see pearl as a lesbian in canon. i think that's probably more-or-less what they landed on, since canon never implied otherwise. in later seasons, she has like 500 gfs and nothing else is mentioned. she seems annoyed at male attention.

but i also see SU as a land where gender and sexuality are fluid, even more than in other gay media. gemkind approaches the idea of earth gender from an outsider pov. i think that's very intentional, this gender-nonconforming perspective from a non-binary creator. it's not just a gay show, it's a queer show.

the boundaries we call "gender" aren't that strict. amethyst can transform into a "male-passing" wrestling persona on a whim, then undo it just as quickly. steven can do drag and gems can present all over the place. its never a big deal. nobody cares whether their gender is "supposed" to do that.

i also think seperationism is lame as hell. i dont see a need to police who gets to be included in what gendered label, especially in fictional self-expression. all of that is based on a very strict, cisnormative, binary ideal of gender in the first place. that's not to say your individual, strongly held binary identity (i'm a binary man!) isn't "valid", just that being honest here, we cannot afford to police this stuff without invalidating other people. and while critique is allowed, i think one should be especially cautious in critiquing other people's creative expression of their own gender and sexuality.

Agree--as presented in canon, Pearl hasn't shown any interest in anyone who wasn't a Gem or a human woman, and has spurned the attraction of at least one human man (Dewey). But if the show had taken stuff in this direction, made this part of Pearl's character, then THAT would have been fine TOO.

Just like in real life, attractions that happen can change what we call ourselves. It would be OK if characters did that too.

And it's important that we understand our existing attractions do not constrict what attractions we can have in the future. If you are queer or have a large number of queer people in your social circle, the first thing you'll notice is this shit is MESSY. And I don't mean that in a negative sense. It's not easily defined. It doesn't stay in boxes. It doesn't always have a term immediately available. But the worst thing we can do with that is say "it can't happen because Person A identifies as Identity B." What we have to do is let the label catch up to the person. The messiness is exploration; it's freedom and adventure. It's one of the best things about queer communities. We splash around and find out what's out there, if we're fortunate enough to escape from the expectations that have always told us we'd be wrong to jump in.

They DIDN'T end up writing Pearl with attractions toward men onscreen, but if they had, that wouldn't have been an insult to lesbians. It would have just revealed aspects of her that we hadn't known about. (And we sure got some unrelated-to-sexuality revelations about things that had always been part of her toward the end of the show, so it wouldn't have been unheard-of.) Pearl makes sense how she was written in the show, and she'd also make sense if these writers had written her a different way, because past does not dictate present or future. I would have trusted Sugar and the Crew to carry that version of the story too, and do justice to it. I have several very queer people in my life who are in relationships that look heteronormative from the outside. Queerness involves throwing away the chains of what an identity label expects you to do and letting your feelings lead the way--and worrying what to name it afterwards.

There are lots of developmental materials that did not become canon and I think people also need to realize that. It's also true that Crew members played around with what-ifs, and now that we have the story they chose, looking at some of those what-ifs feels a little weird to some of us. It's OK if some of the things they thought about doing contradict with what they ended up doing, even if we like the final product better.

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how am i supposed to move on with my day know rebecca sugar just posted the messiest pearlrose content imaginable in the year of our lord 2024

what are any of us supposed to do with this . dear god.

Fan: "Post young Greg sketches!"

Rebecca: Posts young Greg sketches. And pictures of Pearl being a distilled, deep-frozen and deep-fried, quintessential fucking stained glass mural of desperation

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Buck Dewey, in “The Good Lars” (#126)

Buck in “Sadie Killer” (#135)

Buck in “The Big Show” (#142)

Buck in Steven Universe The Movie:

Buck’s getting pretty comfortable with his guitar there. How’d he learn to play like that? 

A line from “The Big Show”:

If you didn’t catch it . . . Buck isn’t crediting Greg in a generic sort of way. Greg actually did teach him everything . . . specifically, how to play guitar.

Buck in “Shirt Club” (#47)

We may never actually see this happening, but apparently from #47 through the next few seasons, Buck had become Greg’s customer. 

Huzzah for Guitar Dad!

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In “Mr. Greg,” when the group goes to Empire City, Greg breaks a table and asks an attendant to bill the damage to his bank.

Sometimes people misinterpret this scene! 

A hundred bucks to pay for a broken table in a ritzy hotel? No way that would cover it! My shitty kitchen table cost $240! Why is that concierge even thanking him?”

Nah y’all. He’s not paying for the table with that $100. He’s giving this guy $100 as a TIP with instructions to bill the damage to the table to his bank. The billing hasn’t happened yet and Greg has no idea how much it will cost him. But the $100 is just to cover the attendant’s trouble having to do that.

“Gee thanks!” indeed.

I certainly never got a tip of any kind or any offers to pay for damage customers caused when I used to work in a service position so. They’d just wreck stuff and act like it was their right. Greg’s a good egg.

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Steven finally learns how to warp at the beginning of “Island Adventure,” aired as episode 30.

A few times in reactions and liveblogs I’ve seen people express confusion about why they’re acting like Steven has a new ability here even though he’s used the Warp Pad by himself before. 

He hadn’t up to that point--this is his first time triggering the warp pad.

“But what about ‘House Guest’?” said those people. “That aired as episode 27. Steven was able to go back and forth to check on his dad. He was using the Warp Pad without the Gems.”

He wasn’t using it under his own power yet.

The Warp Whistle doesn’t just function as a signal for Greg to use. This whistle is triggering the Warp Pad and making it possible for those who can’t naturally use Warp Pads--like Greg--to still travel using them.

Steven never activated the Pad by himself in that episode. He only traveled between home and the Geode when Greg blew the Whistle.

As an aside, the Whistle’s existence made me think the Gems must have had human allies at some point--humans they trusted to travel using Warp Pads even though they couldn’t be taught to use them because of not having Gem powers. Otherwise they wouldn’t have developed a tool that can do this.

Neat!

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In “Laser Light Cannon,” the key to activating the cannon was to say the password.

Some folks didn’t notice that that’s why it started glowing inside the storage unit right after Greg said it!

Not sure what triggers it to then actually fire, since it only did so when Steven said it, but it’s definitely responding to Greg here!

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Misconceptions I wish people would stop repeating about Steven Universe

  • That Steven “is” Pink Diamond in some way even though they made it very clear he isn’t
  • That Amethyst was horny for Greg and jealous he chose Rose
  • That the closer a Fusion is to humanoid, the better/more stable their relationship is
  • That “So Many Birthdays” was somehow Steven’s thirteenth birthday, the division between when he is 12 and when he is 13 on the show
  • That Steven’s “real” last name is DeMayo even though his father’s name was changed to “Universe” before he was even born
  • That Sunstone’s Gems are on their lower Garnet-like hands–they’re not, they’re on the top hands
  • That Prosecutor Zircon is green (she’s yellow) and that Yellow Diamond wears a helmet (that’s her hair)
  • That our Pearl was made for/initially belonged to White Diamond–she’s been confirmed several times to have been made for and “owned” only by Pink
  • That Steven “is” Pink Diamond in some way even though they made it very clear he isn’t
  • That the comics are canon to the show and can be mined for info on truths/background for the history and culture
  • That any of Steven’s Fusions with Gems exclusively use a binary pronoun (yes, Smoky, Rainbow, Sunstone, and Obsidian all accept they/them, even though in a some cases there are other sets that are OK too), or that pronouns mean a character is male, female, or nonbinary
  • That Rainbow Quartz’s name is somehow more of a misnomer than any other Fusion’s name just because neither of their components is actually a Quartz (no one ever seems to have a problem with Garnet, a silicate, being formed from two corundum stones, but I’ve seen DOZENS of complaints that Rainbow Quartz should be Rainbow Diamond–this just has never been how Fusions are named, folks)
  • That Rose fusing with anyone but Pearl should have revealed her secret (Fusions only know what the components shared or would share in their relationship)
  • THAT STEVEN “IS” PINK DIAMOND IN SOME WAY EVEN THOUGH THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR HE ISN’T

PEOPLE!! Steven is Steven. Pink Steven is not Pink Diamond. Pink Steven is not Pink/Rose pretending to be Steven. Pink Steven is not a separate entity from Steven. Steven getting more Diamond powers, looking/acting like his mom, or exhibiting her traits is NOT Steven “turning into” his mother, nor is it his mother reviving and expressing her frustration, nor is it a sign that she has re-arisen because of the rejuvenator, nor do any of Steven’s powers, feelings, or tendencies belong to anyone but him.

Heredity is a thing y’all and just because I sing like my grandma and probably got my talents from her doesn’t mean her name goes in the program when I’m on stage, OK?

Since you articulated my frustration with the Steven-Rose-Pink thing thoroughly and better than I could’ve, I’m gonna take a minute to scream about the ‘Steven’s REAL last name is DeMayo’ thing instead, especially in light of what the Mr. Universe episode taught us.

Even before that, Steven said “Wait, are you telling me Universe isn’t a real last name!?” in the episode he met Andy and Greg immediately, somewhat defensively, responded “It is a real name! I had it changed!”

Like, there were so many clues that Greg’s parents were abusive- and they were subtle, so okay, maybe you missed them! That’s cool! But he states he very deliberately changed his surname and some of you decided ‘nah that’s not valid.’ And then y’all saw the Mr. Universe episode and really decided to still call Steven by the name Steven DeMayo instead of Steven Universe like

Right. Regardless of whether you processed Greg as abused (protip tho: don’t ever argue with someone about whether something “counts” as being abused), he clearly felt like his real self wasn’t valued, so he renamed it after something symbolic of what moved him: music. Which his parents didn’t support and wouldn’t support their son at his shows.

Steven apparently did decide to incorporate “DeMayo” into his mishmash of middle names, and seeing as how he also included “Diamond” it’s clear he knows how complicated this is and acknowledges names can be taken with mixed meanings and mixed feelings. He wants to feel connected to the part of his family represented by Andy, perhaps partly because it is such an unknown and still important to him.

But beyond what he chose and why, CHOSEN NAMES ARE “REAL” NAMES. Greg went one step further and even adopted the name legally (which should shut up even the people who insist that they Only Acknowledge LEGAL names, despite that they’re usually shitty anyway), so unless you confront married people who changed their name in marriage and inform them that their REAL name is always the one they were born with despite legality (and that it transfers to their children too), I think refusal to apply those standards here (and to real people who changed their names) is an intentional prejudice that echoes exactly what Greg wanted to get away from. That you “are” who your parents say you are, and that you will not be given the means or the option to escape it or redefine it.

This also makes me think people who still process Greg’s “real” name as DeMayo and transplant that name onto Steven would not accept the name changes of one of the vulnerable minorities that most frequently changes names for self-affirmation: trans people. Deadnaming a trans person is often an intentional, violent act. And even though Greg isn’t in that situation (being both fictional and not trans; he doesn’t refuse to acknowledge that he used to be Gregory DeMayo, he just isn’t anymore), I think the reasons behind some people’s refusal to acknowledge his autonomy are similar. You don’t get to decide whether someone’s name change is silly or illegitimate to you and determine that you don’t have to respect it. Listen to people when they tell you who they are. There are many reasons to change a name, and it serves no one if you inject yourself into their identity and try to tell them how the symbols of it should read. I don’t trust people when they answer “My name is X” with anything resembling “but not REALLY.” Definitely makes me think their ideas on what counts as “real” come from places I don’t respect.

I wasn’t sure if I was being too sensitive about my head also jumping to trans people given that the name in question was a surname–even if it was also a question of identity–so thank you for that validation.

Because I absolutely thought of that too and it just. Names are important, you know? For multiple reasons. Let people pick their names and then use them. It’s not hard.

Right. I think it’s important to acknowledge that it’s not the same at all (because having someone intentionally deadname you as a trans person is almost always about denying their gender), but in general I think people who don’t accept chosen names or non-birth names or “weird” names or names that aren’t or can’t become legal for a variety of reasons tend to draw their reasoning from the same places. They look to some immutable Truth At Birth to respect as who someone is, and surprise surprise, they’re almost universally fine with cis women changing their “maiden” names to “married” names because, ya know, that’s acceptable as a symbol of her birth identity being subsumed in a family identity and renamed for her husband, and hey, that’s Real! But other reasons a label someone is born with is not properly representative of who they are won’t be accepted by the same people. Because deep down, they don’t actually think that’s real. And they want to make a lot of noise about legitimacy, even though they LITERALLY LOSE NOTHING if they respect someone’s identity.

So yeah. The crime of deadnaming a trans person is not particularly similar to the refusal to acknowledge a “real” name for fictional Mr. Universe, but you’ll find very similar ideals behind these folks’ choices if you question what makes a name legitimate in their minds. What authorities they give the power to dictate reality in the world says a lot about them. Especially since a shitton of them blather about legality and needing the piece of paper, then turn right around and say a piece of paper cannot change heredity or a biological truth or whatever. (The biology they learned a simplified version of in sixth grade and never expanded upon to see its true complexity, but still somehow think represents a basic and universally true representation of how gender and sex works.)

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