@plotwholls you. Keep talking.

ok so I love the idea of a strong visceral reaction but, 1., that would make them suspicious, 2., they’re alive

Having said that, anyone who’s been dipped in the jesus juice probably has some level of reaction to it, because shit’s rank, and probably doesn’t register the same way as regular ectoplasm— so all that nasty gone-bad sourdough starter we’re supposed to call Lazarus Waters is probably trying to give them a reaction.

Problem: they are alive

And what does your body do when it experiences something and is like “oh Oh oH No That Is Not Supposed to BE HERE”?

Introducing, the solution: allergies

Give them allergies like it’s pollen season and they’re in a goddamn flower field

Either Clark is allergic to Ivy’s flowers and so he takes the Kryptonian equivalent to Claritin before he comes to Gotham, or he’s allergic to All The Pollen and is therefore Used To It

You Cannot convince me he wouldn’t act like he was dying if this was his first experience with allergies. Look me in my virtual eyes when you lie to me. 👁 👁

I am Beholding You and you’re so right. This man doesn’t really know pain that isn’t magically induced or fighting. He’s never experienced allergies before, he has a superhuman constitution.

Allergies hit him HARD. It’s not super super terrible allergies either, he’s simply never experienced hay fever so it SUCKS for him

when Constantine learns of this, he is torn, he so wanted to use it against them, but… but he would never risk Deadman

I wish I'd made it clearer when I make this post but shit like that is super common.

Every Jew has had someone "joke"/threaten/say they were gonna sneak pork into our food. Every single Jewish person, who keeps Kosher or not has had someone say something about giving us bacon or whatever without us knowing

I've had people passive aggressively ask if I wanted any bacon or ham and literally wave it at me while speaking.

I can't count the number of times that the first question out of someone's mouth when they learn I am Jewish is "but do you eat bacon" "have you ever tried bacon?" "what about ham?" "do you want to try bacon?(as in right now this very minute 30 seconds into knowing me)"

Countless Jews have spoken to the person in charge of an event, weeks or even months in advance about their Kosher needs, been assured up down and sideways that those needs will be met to show up and find no Kosher option.

and finally SO! many Jews do indeed have a story of being tricked into eating something not Kosher, and most commonly something pork related.

like this is one of the most common antisemitic micro (and not so micro) aggressions Jews face and is one of the reasons lots of Jews don't keep Kosher, they can't trust even (so-called) friends to have even baseline respect or to learn anything about Kosher.

To have a vegetarian sister and a gluten-intolerant aunt and my own dietary restrictions, it already sucks.

But at least in the case of my aunt and mine it is a health problem and refusing us a clear answer (or access to the list of ingredients in my more specific case to absolve oneself of responsibility) can be considered as a poisoning and therefore a crime.

But in the case of my sister who had to repeatedly argue that her case is as legitimate as mine to know if there are things like animal gelatin to use disgusts me, the number of times I have of claiming to have a headache because of writing too small to give her a list of ingredients so that she can also check…

If someone threatened my sister to fake her food, I would go ballistic, even though I know she is doing it for an ideological issue.

But that this is a threat regularly verbalized by some, arg, I am so outraged.

I mean in my sister's case, she would be outraged. In my case, I would be very tired the next day, in my aunt's case she will have digestive problems for 1-2 days with recovery period….

But here we are talking about religion! So also of salvation and life after death. Some seriously think that it is a damnation! You don't play with that unless you're a very, very big asshole!!!

Strength and courage to you. No one should experience this

Conner Phantom, learning to live

It had been a few years since Vlad and Danny had stopped being enemies, years since Amity had been at peace with the ghosts. Danny spent his days teaching his children (he assumed they were his children) about well, everything.

Dan and Ellie had prefabricated knowledge, the halfa couldn't quite get it, but the point was that while they knew who was the creator of the chemistry, they had no idea how to do 2 + 2, so he made it his homework to fill in all the gaps.

No one at Amity blinked at the 30-year-boy-who-was-actually-12 and the 15-year-girl-who-was-actually-4, Danny guessed they had gotten used to the weirdness. One day, Vlad called and pointed out that someone had entered his database a few months ago (apparently he checked his digital security very little when he didn't make "evil" plans) and they had stolen the plans for the cloning capsule. Danny had a bad feeling.

Of course, it was after a month of searching that he found out about Lex Luthor's little "project." To say that he was angry was an understatement; he found the poor Superboy being mind controlled. He felt sad when he remembered Ellie's situation and well, he ended up stealing a clone child and destroying some laboratory. Like old times.

The world did not know of Phantom; Amity was suspicious, almost jealous that their protector could be taken away if they said a word, so they didn't say anything out of the city. It's not like the League did anything when they called. Danny didn't care, less tedious meetings and contingency plans for him. Besides, he wasn't excited about going back to the field if he didn't have to, as long as Amity was safe, the world could be destroyed for all he cared.

He wondered if spending too much time with Dan was affecting him, but in the end he dismissed the thought. Upon arriving home, Superboy had woken up and was being interrogated by the Phantoms. He chose his name to be Conner (sounds good apparently) and agreed to take classes to fill in the gaps of knowledge, just like Ellie, he seemed uncomfortable with the gaps.

The poor boy looked uncomfortable, waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it never did. After finding out whose clone he was, he wondered if they would take him to Superman, but Danny just snorted. By the end of the week, Conner was a Phantom, and he was fine with that. Danny even told him that he could live normally if he wanted to, and the boy happily accepted the offer. Conner didn't want to be a hero, at least not that early, and Danny was happy with his decision.

Danny frowned thinking of all the heroes who would say that is "selfish" for someone with power to not to use it. But he believed that they were doubly selfish. Being a teenage hero wasn't fucking easy. He hugged Conner, welcoming him to the family and within days, the whole town already knew about him (they also knew whose clone he was, but they didn't really care, they weren't snitching).

Curiously, it was Tim Drake who noticed the strange family visiting Gotham (a 23-year-old seemed to be berating a 30-year-old for stealing tires, he snorted at the irony). However he froze when he saw Clark?, but much younger, speaking in Kryptonian and laughing. He called a meeting in the batcave and tried to call the family, but as soon as they saw the expression in his face they vanished from sight.

Hell, he needed to report it to Bruce.

Danny saw the Wayne kid staring at Connor and knew he recognised him. Shit. He was not letting someone steal his kid. What were the chances really? Bloody Fenton luck. He grabbed Connor and turned them both invisible. Ellie and Dan followed suit. He dragged them all off to their hotel.

Once they were somewhere safe again he sat down turning visible again. His kids looked so confused.

Danny: A Wayne brat took one look at Connor and recognised him. And the Wayne's fund the Justice League. They are going to dig into this. We need a plan.

Dan: Uh, Dad? We planned for this remeber?

Ellie: Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss!

Connor: Dad. It's ok. If they find out they find out. What are they gonna do really? If they wanted a say in where I live and what I do they should have rescued me!

Danny: I mean. Yeah. But still. I meant for our holiday. Are we just going to ignore them. And just go about our holiday. Or..... Are we going to cause chaos?

Ellie: I vote chaos. But! Connor is the one affected so....

Connor: I vote chaos too. How are we gonna do this?

I think it would be funny if the Gotham Rouges decided to play keep away with the obviously Meta family that just wants to chill.

Tell me that Waylon, Harley, Ivy, and maybe a few others wouldn't go "oh, they don't want in on the life" and try to keep them out of it.

That would be hilarious! Rogues see a meta family on holiday. Being stalked by the bats. And just go nope! Not on our watch! Hey guys! Wanna cause some trouble! Let's keep pulling Shit and ditching. The bats have to keep running after us. Letting the poor family escape!

Brice is confused as hell because why the fuck is all his Rogues choosing now of all times to make a mess of Gotham!? It's interrupting their investigation into the Meta family with what is likely a Superman clone! It's Harley who spills the beans that it's the entire point.

"Like, so what if the kid looks like Supes!? They ain't doing anything, they're just a family on vacay!"

"It's the fact he is clearly Kryptonian that's the issue, Harley."

"I don't see how? Is he destroying buildings and shooting lazer eyes!?"

Harley: They're civilians B! Leave em alone!

Meanwhile the Phantom's? Are just pleased to not be stalked. And may have slipped Harley and Waylon some inventions to play with. Harley loves her new mallet. She has no idea who they got it to be so light! And it's collapsible!

Waylon? Now has tazer gloves. He is a happy man. The bat brats ain't gonna know what hit em!

Throughout this all they make only one, singular mistake. They forgot to check what Joker was doing. And when the Clown Prince of Crime found out there was a family of Meta civilians his fellow Rogues were putting out all the stops to keep off the Bats' radar, let's jsut say he became very, very interested and offended that nobody even bothered to invite him.

Joker made the mistake of believing he was dealing with human metas. Fortunately for the Phantom's? They are all only half human. And well.... Danny is a very protective Father. Joker didn't get very far into his stalking before he was spotted. Which made him give up observation to attack swiftly. That proved to be a mistake. His last mistake.

Danny sucks Joker's ghost up into his thermos & sends it to Walker, gift-wrapped. Walker's been *waiting* for this guy to enter his jurisdiction.

After that incident? They go home. After phasing the body into the ground. Look, what Batman doesn't know, won't get Danny arrested! No body, no proof! And as ghosts? They can't be caught on camera. Gotham cameras are not Ecto proof. So any that might have been able to see? Would have been unusable static.

Getting back home is good though. Clockwork had agreed to do a special trip for Connor to connect to his Kryptonian heritage. They were going to visit Krypton years before the destruction! Danny was super excited to share it! And a few Kryptonian ghosts had been teaching them all cultural stuff anyway. It would be a great trip!

Clockwork "accidentally" arranges for Danny, Dan and Ellie to be mistaken for/become Kryptonian Gods of Balance and Death, and Connor their demigod son/ward. Both because it would give them all additional protection, and because the expression on Superman's face when he recognizes them will be PRICELESS.

Superman gets shown a sketch Damian made of them and freezes. He states at it for a moment and then looks at Batman.

Superman: You are sure? It's, that's what they look like?

Batman:... Yes.

Superman pull a up a file from the fortress. And shows a portrait that matches the four perfectly. With a description of the beings in the picture.

Superman:.... They were believed to be God's. And if they are still around now? Looking the same as they did then?

Batman: ... I see.

Superman: If.. If they are God's of my people? They might be here. On Earth. Because of me, Jon and Kara. The last known Kryptonians.

Batman: Why Gotham?

Superman: Why not Gotham? We are known to be friends.

I can see from here Batman grunting at the word "friends" but not really denying it… but verbalizing an emotional attachment? Clark, a little modesty please!

Ellie worked undercover at Cadmus

So, Ellie has grown up and become an Adult living on her own by now.

She is doing her best to make the most out of her life. She went to school, graduated from College, and even got a Job.

She grew up in a Lab, and learned quite a bit about Genetic Engineering over the course of her life both before and after escaping (Both from Vlad, and from Danny during that Point in time where they were trying to permanently stabilize her).

So, when she gets an offer to join a new start-up Company called Cadmus, she jumped at the opportunity to use her Knowledge to help others. (She was told it was a Research Company that used Genetic Engineering to make medicines)

It wasn't until she had already signed the NDA that she figured out that this was an Illegal Cloning Lab.

Thankfully, she was immune to the Mind Control that they had tried to use on all of the Scientists to make them okay with all of the illegal shit, but she still had to play the part so she could help the poor clones who would be created in this project.

She went Undercover for years. Any time a Clone was deemed a "Failure", she would try her best to save them. She did manage to save a few, sending them to Danny so he could help them find a home, but unfortunately she couldn't save them all.

After a few years, the other scientists began to stress out. The K-Series had been a total failure so far, and none of the Clones had even come close to being Viable. Even the most successful one, identified as Match, couldn't come close to being called an actual success.

So, they went a different route. If Kryptonian DNA didn't want to be Cloned, then maybe they could splice it with some other DNA and force it to work with them?

The Scientists began splicing Human DNA into the Genome, running trials to see if it would be Viable at all before even attempting to create a Full Clone. And they did find some success, preliminary tests showed that Human DNA was uniquely adaptable when it came to splicing, and theoretically it could be used to make a Fully Viable Clone!

When Luthor heard of this, he deemed that nobody aside from himself was worthy of being the "Father", and gave his own DNA to the Scientists to use for the Experiment.

Ellie was put in charge of transporting the DNA to the Lab, but in a random accident (we both know it wasn't, Clockwork), she ends up dropping the Sample. In a rush, she just puts some of her own Blood into the Vial and gives it to the Scientists working on the Gene Splicing Project. (She was panicking, ok?! Nobody would be able to work in a lab like this without getting a little bit of anxiety, and she hadn't gotten a wink of sleep in days at that point!)

They are thrilled! They don't know why, but Mr Luthor's DNA was so much better at Splicing than any other Human DNA they had ever tested before. He was certainly right about his own DNA being the beat suited for the Job!

Ellie meanwhile is having a bit of a meltdown. She can't believe she just gave them some of her DNA! And they already used it to make a Fetus! She's a mother now! She never wanted to be a Mom!

But she guesses that none of that matters anymore. She's has a son now, and she needs to get him out of there. But how to do it? As the only successful K-Series Clone, he was under the most heavily guarded security imaginable, so there was absolutely no way she would ever be able to sneak him out of there. Even if she used her powers, the Security was primed to scan for any and all foreign energy signatures, even Ecto Energy.

So for now, she was stuck. She couldn't break him out, and she also couldn't just leave the Company and let them abuse all those poor clones like that! She just needed to wait for the right opportunity to get her son out of there, even if it meant that she would have to stay behind.

It wasn't until a team of errant Sidekicks broke into the Lab a few years later, that she had a way out for her son.

At the first sign of superman rejecting his son Dani will jump out of the shadows, kidnap him and drown him in acceptance and aggressive parenting.

I thought you were saying Dani was kidnapping Suoerman too. And thats a hysterical image.

Imagine, Superman is flying around for a patrol and this random white haired Meta drugs him and kidnaps one of the strongest Heroes in the world.

When the JL find them, she's giving Suoerman the Ethics lecture if a lifetime

I admit it's a funny picture:

Superman flying slowly enjoying the sunset after a long day. A white-haired woman arrives who rushes at Superman unaware of his approach (she is intelligible so makes no noise despite her speed) and tackles him complaining about theft, uses her intelligibility to drug him and put him to sleep. Puts it on his shoulder and becomes invisible.

It was filmed and published.

The Justice League spent the night looking for him.

Clark Kent goes to work the next day even though he has a strange facial expression

Consider, Both.

She's still not done lecturing him so she has Amorpho copy him until lunch time, when they switch out but he has the same expression on his face.

But if we add justice league? There is at least one who will check clark.

BUT Amorpho know the secret identities? AND which must remain secret? :') not sure…

And then without warning it's Clark again while the whole justice league is still between confusion and alert

Non Shrike AU content yet again but idea where Danny takes on being a superhero more or less out of Amity Park once he’s slightly older. Danny continues to go by Phantom. He’s a sudden unknown with a rogue gallery who seems to follow him no matter how quickly he travels from city to city. The destruction that follows him is hard to notice and as a result the Justice League attempts to intervene but it’s leaving them questioning who exactly this new hero (or foe) is. He is able to go toe to toe with some of the veteran League members until he usually realizes he can’t exactly win against them (experience vs. raw power doesn’t always work in his favor) and runs away. The League is trying to get a grasp on his powers and abilities and in the end, since he doesn’t seem fond of actually interacting with the League, Danny is deemed a threat. It’s especially concerning when some members spy him lingering on the edges of Earth’s atmosphere star gazing.

Danny views the situation differently, he’s trying to contain ghosts appearing from an influx of natural ghost portals throughout the country while juggling being a freshman in university. His goal is get them under controlled as quick as possible, no time for banter, no time to interact with the local heros. He has a job to do. However when the Justice League starts coming after him he believes they realize he’s a ghost/part ghost and trying to detain him under the ecto acts. He’s terrified and views them as a threat so of course he’s going to fight them if they try to get to close.

Danny is eventually captured by Superman after a rogue battle in Metropolis that was extremely difficult so having Superman come in directly after was a losing battle from the start. He’s taken to the Watch Tower and given cuffs and a collar that blocks/dampens meta abilities and it manages to actually work on Danny. He refuses to cooperate with any members who try to question him since it’s pointless to fight against them now that he’s captured. Danny views himself steps away from being fully dead as he believes the Justice League will hand him over to the Men in White once they’re finished with him.

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Phantom had been silent as the grave since Superman brought him to the watchtower. He hasn’t even needed restraints in addition to the power restrictors. At first he seemed to be staring and listening intently to the various heroes attempting to interrogate him. But the longer he refused to crack the more he seemed to be staring into space. The only emotion he displayed was brief, muted interest the first time they passed one of the many windows looking out into space. Just when they were about to bring out the big guns and have Batman take a shot.

When Batman finally reached the interrogation room Red Hood was with him- the League needed Hood’s insight for a case. When the pair stepped into the viewing area of the interrogation room Red Hood froze the moment his eyes landed on Phantom.

“B you need to get Martian Manhunter or an empath in here now.”

“What’s wrong Red Hood?”

“I’ve only seen that look when someone in a tight spot is convinced they won’t survive. And it’s gotten to the point where he’s dissociating.”

Batman’s eyes widened and he immediately sat at the console and started typing away. “Red Hood, make sure nobody tries anything before he gets here. It looks like we haven’t done our research.”

The moment J'onn stepped into the room his expression turned thoughtful, even concerned. “Red Hood was right to ask for me. On the surface there’s just a wall of resignation, but if you look past it there’s also fear.”

“We just want to question him. What sort of past does he have to react like that?”

“That’s what I have to find out.” Then J'onn entered the other part of the interrogation room and sat across from Phantom. “I sense much resignation and fear… and you clearly expect to die. Why is that?”

J'onn’s words snapped Phantom out of his daze. “What do you mean ‘why’? I’m half ghost and under the ecto laws my existence is illegal. You’ve caught me. Everyone knows ghosts that are brought into a Guys in White facility only come out again if they’re broken out or they’re strong enough to break out unassisted. It’s why I work so hard to get my rogues gallery back to the Ghost Zone before hunters or the GIW can catch or kill them.”

J'onn and every other League member present felt their stomachs drop. Weren’t ghosts the spirits- usually of the deceased? Why would ghosts be illegal?

“We need Justice League Dark. Someone call Jason Blood and Constantine. I’ve got some laws and secret organizations to look into.”