Iron Man 2 was funny as fuck like imagine you’re battling a terminal illness and at the end of what is arguably the worst week of your life some guy shows up and is like “we’ve been conducting a secret job interview for a position you didn’t apply for and we’ve decided to reject you” and you just go “alright fuck you too then” and revolutionize the energy business.
The high evolutionary is a great example. He's not someone who has universal power he only really has power over his creations. But the thing is one of those creations is Rocket someone we the audience care about. That's all you need, not a villain who's the biggest threat ever just one who is shown on screen to be a threat to things the audience cares about.
In a time where the MCU has villains that could wipe out planets it was Wilson Fisk was the guy who had audience attention. The Kingpin was never going to be a global threat, not even a government level threat but he was threat to Daredevil and that's all he needed to be. It took the time to make him a character the audience was intrigued by showing who he was and what he wanted.
Like the MCU can tell the audience that Kang is a big and powerful and has totally killed all these heroes for other universes, but who cares if destroyed worlds no one's seen? Who is Kang, what does he want who is he to Loki or Scott? He's just a threat and anyone can be a threat if you say they're dangerous. The fate of the world doesn't have to be at stake every time just something the hero cares about.
The world/universe is to big and undeveloped for people to care about. Like, either they're not go through with or they would only to immediately take it back or switch to a new world. We see the people and capital city of Wakanda we know what it means to T'Challa and Shuri so the audience cares when it's under threat. We know what it means to Natasha to reduce the Black Widows so we care about them. If the world is always at threat it doesn't mean anything anymore.
I think Doctor Doom should have been phase 4 big bad precisely he is a smaller threat than Thanos. He could personally effect multiple heroes in a way that's believable because of his ties to science mystic arts and politics. The heroes don't have to be sucked into this poorly thought out cosmic nonsense that really doesn't suit them just so there can be a a justification for them meeting. Also Doom is some who can start more ground level and gain power and that be the threat rather than claim this is the most dangerous person only for them to lose to ants and still have insisted this is someone the audience should fear.
Whoa look at this leaked Secret Invasion script from a deleted scene!
damn seriously the writing on this show was rough. Also, wow they cut so much stuff? The foreshadowing in this scene is wild.
I can’t believe Maria died for Operation Glasses.
no because the bone i have to pick with marvel over the development of female characters. why do we only explore their characters when they’re dead, or going to die. seeing maria in such a personal way with her glasses on and minimal makeup just for her to die? getting black widow when natashas already dead? exploring wanda’s character when they make the switch to villian/anti-hero? not when she’s trying and she’s hurting? but steve has three movies, and bucky has an entire backstory, and we just keep adding onto tony’s long list. these women are constantly a second thought, or a last resort to boost engagement, and i’m sick of it.
every show has its weird tropes that it cant let go of and agents of shield is how whenever someone lands a good hit against their opponent, they pause for dramatic effect and give them time to recover. like peeps the amount of bullshit we couldve stopped from happening if yall spent less time posing and more time hitting the bad guys is astounding but you gotta look cool. priorities
So the second episode of Secret Invasion basically confirmed that Maria Hill died as the “woman in the refrigerator” to Nick Fury more or less similar to Natasha’s death.
If Natasha Romanoff’s death could be argued with furthering her own character arc (which imo is complete BS), Maria died for no other reasons than to “ignite” Fury’s fury to fight back. (Pun intended 🔥)
I still remember in the early days of the avenger’s MCU, they were the only two female heroines I saw with consistent presences in a heavily male dominated superhero franchise.
They deserve better than a death only to further the male characters' storyline and they definitely deserve a sincere farewell from other main characters.
I’m glad to see that now both MCU and DC are putting out more female superhero characters on their big screens for the world to see. But it’s these details of how they are actually treating these female characters make me think that they are only giving us the female superheroes for the fear of being called misogynists. They don’t actually care about them as much as they do to their male characters. They are only using these women as tools to further the male counterparts’ storylines rather than to develop their own arcs. Call me a petty pessimist, but their actions speak louder than their words. And for that, I don’t believe for a second that they are genuine in supporting female empowerment using their own platform.
Also just look at how these people treated Captain Marvel and Brie Larson. They are so quick to defend their straight white male actors/characters, but for their female colleagues/characters… oof you’re on your own, pal.🤡
Sorry this has turned into a full blown vent, but these superhero blockbuster movie franchise, especially the MCU, are pissing me off so badly with their corny performative “female empowerment” messages. (Yes, I rolled my eyes at that all female superhero lineup scene in that avengers movie. Almost had to hold back my laugh in the movie theater because how the scene seems all too fake and intentional like the MCU is screaming in our faces to try convincing us that they are for women empowerment. But by all means, if you enjoyed that scene and that scene inspired you, awesome! Keep enjoying it. I’m glad someone got some positive messages out of it. And I suspect if I didn’t have my beef with MCU already, I’d be able to enjoy it a bit more too.)
The ‘raise the stakes’ argument only ever applies to female characters in the MCU, and fans have a right to be upset about it.
I’m getting weird marvel bro DMs about the Talos setting up Maria theory and why I am so wrong but actually I think it’s a pretty good explanation of how such a smart character can fall into such mistakes that seem pretty unusual and echo the mistakes Skrull Maria made with Talos/Skrull Fury in Far From Home.
Not just men are allowed to post their Secret Invasion theories and you are just adding to the point that the MCU *many fans included* have a problem with women. But let’s move on to the real issue here…
the PROBLEM with using Maria’s ‘situation’ as a plot device in the first episode of Secret Invasion is that they are using this a “real” demise to raise the stakes of the show—but similarly male characters demises are often fake outs/reversed/or they are revived. Yet people like Maria and Natasha do the work when the male heroes are gone or having an emotional crisis. Yet those men get all the credit and they come back from their ill fates and fans cheer. Instead of these women getting similar treatment or ability to retire, have a life or family, or even just rest they get axed in brutal, cold, lonely ways and we are told to move on.
We have yet to see the return of female characters that we have seen with the male ones and if Maria is not important enough to matter that she can be killed solely for a plot device with absolutely no development that she deserved what would be the point of bringing her back? Her death wouldn’t raise the stakes if she’s coming back or can be brought back from death a second time so easily. Yet men can retire, die and come back, and we are not supposed to feel less for the writing and plot?
Fans are angry about this because as I’ve already addressed a few times in this blog the phase 1 women in the MCU are stuck in a vicious cycle. And particularly, Maria fans were given a lot of Maria content/press/ and interviews that there was going to be something for her that we have been asking for over ten years. The little that has been done with Maria is actually a great testament to her portrayal by Cobie Smulders who has done a lot with what little they give her work with and that’s why Maria has resonated with so many fans.
Don’t mind me, I’m just having a MOOD about Wanda Maximoff...
(Possibly) unpopular opinion: Wanda Maximoff is fundamentally a selfish person. Wanda is a bad person that only believes she’s a good person.
I’m going to work my way backwards on all the truly ridiculously shit she’s done that the writers have handwaved.
WandaVision - I think most people can agree she was not the hero of this story. She mind controlled dozens, if not hundreds of people for over a week and kept them enslaved for her own happiness. Initially, it was accidental. Fine, but by episode 4, she has realized (at least on some level) that this is fake. But by episode 6-7 she more or less knows exactly what she’s done and continues on anyway, even if she doesn’t know the extent of the pain she’s putting these people in.
The second half of that last sentence is actually irrelevant. It doesn’t matter if these people are not in pain. You don’t get to intentionally steal all of someone’s documents, keep them locked in your home for months and pretend you haven’t committed a crime just because you’re not also beating them on the regular.
Wanda didn’t stop in the end because she is a good person. She would have stopped much, much earlier if she were. She stopped because the way that the people were treating her completely removed her ability to pretend she wasn’t a bad person doing bad things all this time.
Let’s briefly go back to Captain America Civil War.
I’m not blaming her for the beginning of the movie (side note: that was Steve’s fault. Wanda clearly has only been vaguely trained on her powers and shouldn’t have been on the field at all). We’re actually starting from the middle of the movie. Where she “breaks” out of the compound. That she’s treating like a prison, when she had, at most, been grounded. Even calling it a grounding is debatable, considering she hadn’t even known about it for the several days between the bombing and when Clint came by. She was basically being advised to keep a low profile while things calmed down (probably due to VISA issues).
BUT the moment she decides she wants to leave and is told, “Maybe, don’t,” she sends VISION, who she supposedly loves through god knows how many floors of a building that was meant to handle super soldiers training in it. Did she know he would be okay after that? That he would survive it? She didn’t check. And then, during the airport battle, she chides Clint for holding back in his fight with Natasha. Like, she’d forgotten that some of these people were her friends (or at least friends of her friends). But for Wanda, once you’re no longer on her side, your life means pretty little.
Finally we move right on back to Age of Ultron. Let’s leave out any theories on whether it was even reasonable for her to blame Tony for the deaths of her parents (was it Stane? Were those even real SI bombs?), grief isn’t rational. So fair enough. She blames Tony for her parent’s death and wants revenge. And decides to join Hydra for the chance to get powers for this revenge. Wanda was 26 in AOU in 2015, and even assuming that she got her powers the minute Hydra/SHIELD got the scepter in 2012, she still would have been 23. An adult, not a kid. Combine that with her powers literally allowing her to read minds, there is no way that she didn’t know she was working with Hydra. After which she went on to work for Ultron.
Now, here’s the rub. There is no possible explanation for working with actual neo-nazi’s in the 21st century and a mad AI intent on destruction (because he was totally planning on retiring to be a nurse after destroying the world’s heroes, right?) and still believing that you’re on the right side. Never mind the fact that the rest of the Avengers literally had nothing to her beef with Tony. Never mind that she let Tony go in that state of panic, hoping he’d do something destructive (and joining up with said destructive AI) or setting off the goddamn HULK.
All of that was totally done with the belief that no one would be harmed. Of course.
Of course not.
Wanda and her brother didn’t defect from Ultron because he wanted to kill a lot of people. They left because they and their country would die too. If it had just been America he was planning to destroy, they likely would have left him alone. She left Ultron because it benefited her to do so. She joined the Avengers because it benefitted her to do so. After all, what else was she going to do? Go on the run, living in poverty for the rest of her life? Remain in Sokovia and possibly be brought up on charges for her part in helping Ultron, Hydra and the disaster in Johannesburg? No.
Over and over again, innocent people get hurt or killed because of her. But these movies/shows treat her as if she is someone to sympathize with. Like it’s reasonable to intentionally cause the death and torture of people over and over… because she’s sad.
In all fairness, I can acknowledge that AOU soured me on her hard since they never actually showed feeling any sort of real remorse while she was doing all of that really evil shit.
I find it fascinating that people in the Loki fandom don’t want to accept that Loki stabbed Thor as a child simply because he was being a naughty little shit.
Once I stabbed my sister with a table fork because she was sitting in My Chair and wouldn’t get out of it
And once a again Wande leaves scot free...
Working for Hydra, Working with Ultron, Unleashing Hulk on Johannesburg, fire in Lagos and now the Hex without facing justice. And everyone is OK with that because she is a “hero”!
I’d genuinely like to know what Wanda ever did that was heroic.
I’m not asking this to bash her; I like her as a character (or, the concept of her), but ... it’s the same thing as the Vision relationship. The narrative tells us Wanda is a hero because she’s an Avenger; she fights alongside them when needed, but it doesn’t show us her heroism. She’s passively heroic.
The times when she does take the initiative to act, she’s acting out of her own interests and wants. In Civil War, she wants to get out of the compound, she wants to not be feared because of her powers, she wants to join up with Steve because it’s the side that benefits her rather than restrains her.
In Infinity War, she’s acting out of a desire to save Vision. Preventing Thanos from getting all of the infinity stones is secondary; what I mean is that her primary motivation for stopping Thanos is because his success means Vision’s death, and she doesn’t want that to happen. I’m not saying that she wouldn’t care about stopping Thanos if it weren’t for the threat to Vision, but I am saying that if the mind stone had been anywhere else besides on Vision’s person, her role would likely have been passive, preferring to let Steve and Nat lead.
There’s nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing wrong with not being a leader and there’s nothing wrong with acting in one’s own self-interests. But it’s not exactly heroic, either. Not to mention, Wanda has never shown remorse for either making Bruce hulk out, or for getting inside of the Avengers’ heads (Nat’s flashbacks were particularly traumatic). She accepts that she’s a hero as easily as the audience is supposed to accept that she’s a hero.
I don’t think I’m explaining myself well lmao, but what it comes down to is that the hero-coding of Wanda is inconsistent with her actions and motivations, and this is a narrative choice wherein, once again, tptb are telling us one thing but showing us another. I like Wanda, but I don’t think she’s particularly well-written, and this is pretty much why.
In which I react to the trailer, bit by bit, because why not?
This post is long and image-heavy; sorry, dashboard.
So first of all, the line that keeps running through my head is a line from a fic AU - Have Tesseract, Will Travel by WinterDusk - wherein Alternate Timeline Loki catches up with Post-Endgame Thor. It’s a glorious series and everyone should go read it right now.
“The Tesseract skids to a stop at Loki’s feet. Loki, not being entirely stupid, picks it up.”
It’s such a good line that it should be, like, a narrative voiceover or something. But anyway.
I have to say, I love seeing Loki’s “old” armour again, as opposed to what he was wearing in Ragnarok/IW (and what he died in, sorry, what?). His hair is definitely doing something inconsistent, but I’m not terribly bothered by it. (I’m glad his hair looks natural and a bit chaotic, as opposed to the stiff, awkward wigs.) And he’s landed in a desert - so, where has he ended up? On Earth? On another planet? Another galaxy? I guess we’ll find out.
“You’re taking me somewhere to kill me.”
I think it’s interesting that Loki assumes that they’re going to try to kill him. He doesn’t look afraid, he doesn’t look surprised, just resigned: You’re going to kill me. I think it makes sense that this would be his reaction, in that he can’t fucking catch a break and he knows it. I’m interested to see how they managed to overpower him enough to get that collar around his neck, which I’m assuming is something that suppresses his magic. A fight scene?
Another note: the scar on his forehead has already healed up; depending on how quickly he heals, this could be a few days or a few weeks after the opening shot. Either he wasn’t captured right away, or he’s been sitting in a cell for awhile before they deign to bring him elsewhere.
Also, I didn’t recognize Owen Wilson right away. He looks like a kinda weird combination of Howard Stark and General Ross, lmao.
Idk about the “you love to talk” line bc Loki doesn’t really like to talk - but, it’s also fair to say that the assumption could be made if one was basing his understanding of Loki on what we saw in Avengers (similar to how Tony says Loki’s a “full-tilt diva,” it doesn’t make it true, just makes it someone else’s perception).
I really like Loki’s “wtf” expression when he looks at Owen Wilson, though.
Friendly reminder that Loki is the protagonist in his series, which means he’s probably going to going up against whatever big bad this is. Which means we get to see him in the context of being the one the audience is rooting for, instead of the villain.
I think Loki looks the most beautiful here. Look at that face, that tiny little smirk, that luscious hair. Aw yisss. More of this Loki please (for aesthetic purposes).
I like his expression here; reminds me a bit of when he’s brought in front of Odin in TDW, but a bit more uncertain - as if he’s thinking, I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I’m not going to let you know that I’m concerned. If that makes sense.
I also dig the music.
I wonder if they’re showing Loki possible futures (considering he’s now created a new timeline) or if it’s strictly Loki-Prime’s life, and if it’s the latter, I am super curious to see how he reacts to the loss of Asgard and the subsequent run-in with Thanos. I hope he does not get shown his death because, butter-knife-stupidity aside, it was so brutal that showing it to him would just be cruel, I would think.
This shot is interesting to me bc it’s from Loki’s POV - it’s what Loki sees when he realizes he’s surrounded. So where are these images coming from, anyway? Maybe the collar isn’t a magic thing, maybe it gives them the ability to see inside of Loki’s mind - or, to at least pull images from it. Idk. I like how Loki is still not showing much emotion, though; he’s just sitting there, arms folded, like okay, sure.
Until here. What does Loki see that makes him close his eyes and turn away? He looks annoyed, he looks exhausted, he looks fed up. My first thought was that he was turning away at the shot of the Avengers - the reminder that he lost, or that he failed. Maybe Owen Wilson was saying something taunting about it. But really, it could be anything. It’s a really interesting moment, though, because it’s a genuine reaction from Loki and I’m hoping that it implies he feels some kind of way about New York and perhaps will talk about it - like that he lost on purpose, or he’ll mention Thanos, or something. Again, Loki being the protagonist means that there’s a ton of potential for really getting Loki’s side of things, and if they’re going through his memories, then we might get to see Loki talk about those memories.
This looks like Loki’s gone from being the TVA’s prisoner to working for them, which is interesting, but not entirely unexpected, if we’re to assume that the TVA’s interests lie in defeating the hooded big bad from before and they need Loki to do it. I’m also curious if they never intended to capture him long-term at all but, in fact, sought him out because of his magic/skills/etc in order to help them. That would also make sense - that it’s more of a recruiting thing than a punishment thing - considering that Loki isn’t even the one who fucked up the timeline to begin with and that the Avengers are the ones responsible for that.
We love a flippy-knife Loki, don’t we?
Post-apocalyptic future? Potential of what could have happened if Loki (and, by extension, Thanos) had won? Or an alternate timeline altogether? I have no idea. Loki looks so smol though, all alone in the ruins.
I really hope this is a wig and Loki didn’t cut his hair, bc this just looks like Tom with short black hair, lmao. Like the Night Manager with a Loki smirk. It’s not bad, I just don’t care for it. I wonder how Asgard will react when Loki shows up looking like that.
Action shots! Loki doing stuff! Fighting! Random twirly girl! I’m here for all of the action sequences and I’m not sorry.
Imagine being that girl. Hoo.
Everyone was talking about Sam jumping out of the plane without a parachute and haha, another one like Steve, but just look at Loki’s bad ass soaring through the clouds. Also, I am a loser, but the one inconsistency in the “Loki is DB Cooper” theory - for me - is that I thought it was night time and raining when DB jumped. But, that’s just me.
Also, has Loki always pronounced Heimdall like that? HeimDAAALL, like with a hard A? Or is that also just me?
And there’s the Bifrost, pulling short-haired DB Cooper Loki to Asgard.
(That little window for the Falcon trailer came up and I couldn’t minimize it, sorry.)
I have no idea what is going on here, but I have to say, that gravelly come on! What did you expect? is all kinds of pleasing to me. I have always loved Tom’s deep Loki voice. I am assuming this is something from the comics or that it’s an alternate reality Loki or something like that, but again, context matters and this was really the only part of the trailer that (the first time) made me go, uh can we not? Who knows.
And there we are. My honest opinion is that, while some of it seems questionable, it overall seems kind of promising to me? I think that if you read between the lines, so to speak, and pick up on all of Loki’s little tells and micro-expressions, what we’ll probably end up seeing is a combination of Thor 1/TDW Loki with a side of Avengers and some Ragnarok-flavored sprinkles. I also think that the trailer has probably sliced up and served the juiciest bits to appeal not just to Loki’s core fanbase but to the Ragnarok fans and to the casual MCU fans who may want to tune in for fun.
Again, we’re getting approximately two full-length movies worth of a story in which Loki is the protagonist. And I’ll just say it: my initial overall reaction was that I liked it. I’m apprehensive, but I’m hopeful. Look at it this way: nothing in this series will be worse than what we already had to endure in Infinity War.
So, yeah. We’ll see what happens, but I think it’ll be okay and, even if it’s not? Well, on the bright side, there’s more footage and content to inspire brilliant fanworks (fics, music vids, art, etc), which is just the new life that needs to be breathed into the Loki fandom right now. In my opinion.
I fact it was aleady the short Loki intermezzo in EG which set the tone. 'Avengers' Loki was royalty™. You still get the vibes when he comes sashaying in with his jailors like a king with his life guard. And somewhere on the way the mood changes from royalty to jester. The Loki parrotting Cap is already the new one. Different from Loki shapeshifting into Steve in TDW. That was sharp and witty: 'This costume! A bit tight....I can feel the righteousness surging'. The EG scene was hullabaloo.
I think you've just hit on what's so glaringly missing for me (or one of the many things that are missing, I guess). From Thor (2011) all the way through to The Dark World, there was this elegant, regal air to Loki even when he was at his most beaten down, whether physically or emotionally. That innate sense of royalty and otherworldliness was missing from Ragnarok, and it's missing from this trailer. There's an overall sense of... disempowerment(?) that I just can't shake. He feels too... human.
Dear Leader™ Steve Rogers was so woefully inept at reading the room that he thought grilling a traumatized, emaciated man about the source of his trauma just hours after he returned home was a smart move. He could’ve asked those same generic questions to Nebula, on account of her being with Tony all that time, and would’ve gotten far more useful information — such as the existence of Thanos’ garden. But, nope, he had to prod and push until Tony snapped, and Crap stans are now scandalized that a man driven to the edge of his limits reacted exactly the way he is supposed to: by lashing out in anger. Hope none of you are training to be psychologists or counsellors because y i k e s.
Use one of your Ph.D.’s to show dude-bro Thor who’s boss.
Didn't Taika make it clear that PhDs aren't good for anything? Jane is a boring, whinging nerd just like Bruce until she gains the power to beat people up.
And considering how he “gave Bruce dimensions” dumbed Bruce down in Ragnarok, we should all be very, very afraid for Jane Foster.
I just... it’s hard to express how wrong that is. Bruce had dimensions in The Avengers and AOU. He had fears and regrets about what the Hulk had done and could do, but he had accepted it as part of him and was willing to use it when necessary. He knew other people were afraid of him and clearly that was a raw wound, but Tony’s trust was a first step toward healing it. He had relationships to keep him tied to life on Earth -- not just the romance with Nat (which I still maintain made more sense than most people think), but his friendship with Tony, which clearly involved a LOT of like-mindedness and trust -- but he still made the wrenching decision to leave because he believed he could only do more harm than good. And he made that decision while in Hulk form.
In Ragnarok? Hulk was just a bloodthirsty exhibitionist, and Bruce was reduced to a “whinging nerd” whose education was useless -- unlike in the previous films, where his scientific expertise was crucial to the plot -- and who couldn’t keep his shit together to save his life. Compare this to the person who said “You wanna know my secret? I’m always angry” and, to Wanda, “I could choke the life out of you without changing a shade.” His self-control was incredible; it was only the severity of the condition that made him lose it, and then only in truly dire situations.
Waititi didn’t understand Bruce any more than he understood Loki. Presented with complex, conflicted characters struggling with mental illness (and the Hulk has been used as a metaphor for bipolar disorder), all he saw was “whinging” attention-hungry sissies who just need to “get over” their problems. His idea of a “relatable” character is bro!Thor, who manipulates and browbeats people to get what he wants and has absolutely no empathy or genuine concern for others (the “Earth loves me” line was such a powerful illustration of how self-absorbed he is -- but it was supposed to be funny).
I’m terrified for Jane Foster, especially if the movie involves the element from the comics storyline that she has cancer. Handling that requires delicacy and compassion, of which TW has absolutely none.
I have mixed feelings about Jane as Thor. My biggest fear now is how much TW will change the "boring Jane" yep I still salty. 😑
I see what you mean. They’ll probably supervise Watiti more closely this time to avoid the whole mess with reshoots but they still hired him, which doesn’t bode well for anyone involved. Natalie Portman is a professional but we don’t know how much say she’ll have in the end. (Tom Hiddleston also takes his work seriously and we saw how his role was treated last time TW was in charge…)
I know it’s been said before, but something is seriously wrong when the announcement of a new movie fill people with doubt and worry rather than excitement.
Jane deserves better.
**sorry for hijacking this post!**
TW was deemed “woke feminist” for Valkyrie’s portrayal.
In his own words, Valkyrie was to be badass by being “more boy than the boys themselves”. Meaning his “woke feminism” is making women strong and powerful as a man would in order to have agency.
I fear that “boring Jane” will suffer that same treatment. Forget she’s a scientist, forget she’s genius smart, forget everything Natalie and Ken forged for Jane on Thor 1. This is “new Jane”. This is Thor!Jane, no longer a “boring nerd”, but another one of the “boys”.
Already in the Thor 4 tag, people are saying that TW will finally “fix” Jane (I assume by making her into another Strong Female Character ™. Since apparently being a confident, feisty, genius astrophysicist isn’t “woke” enough for them. It’s distressing.
TW had three women in his previous film. All of them could smash things and were about as interesting as buckets. And everyone loved it. There’s no reason Jane won’t receive the same treatment.
Having brain is i guess not enough. Woman must smash everything to be strong.
I mean to be fair, TW seems to dislike people with brains regardless of gender. He called Bruce a “whining nerd” to whom he gave “new dimensions”. He’ll “fix” Jane too.
Yet another reason why he disliked Loki, who prefers stealth and diplomacy over brute force.
The anti-intellectualism is strong with that one.
The anti-intellectualism is strong with that one.
Didn’t TW say one of the reasons he didn’t like Asgard was that he thought it was full of scholars and nerds (despite obviously being a warrior culture) and not enough nightclubs??
HOLY SHIT WHAT HOW DID I MISS THIS ARTICLE BEFORE!!!! D:
(copying the bits that interested me most, there are more in that link):
(…) writers Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely also answer a batch of fan questions which reveal alternate and deleted ideas and scenes for the movie.
• It’s revealed that following Infinity War, they couldn’t figure out what to do with Thanos in The Avengers: Endgame until a producer came up with the idea to kill Thanos. Once the producer came up with the suggestion, they explored the idea and found it could work.
• They originally had Thor at the start of The Avengers: Endgame on a mission of vengeance but realized he is always on a mission of vengeance and always fails so he became Fat Thor.
• Kevin Feige came up with the idea of time travel.
McFEELY Kevin [Feige] at one point said, I would like to use the Time Stone, or use time as an element. It let us spend a few weeks seeing what’s the kookiest thing we could do with time and not break the movie. MARKUS We all sat there going, really? We’re going to do time travel? It was only when we were looking at who we had available, character-wise; we hadn’t used Ant-Man yet. And there really is, in people’s theory of the Quantum Realm, a time thing in the M.C.U., right now, available to us, with a character we haven’t used yet. We have a loophole that’s not cheating.
• They reveal in the first draft of The Avengers: Endgame they weren’t going to go back to the first The Avengers movie, but to Asgard where Iron Man would be wearing a stealth suit and battle Heimdall who could see him.
• Thor was going to have long scenes with Natalie Portman.
• The Guardians of the Galaxy Peter Quill Morag scene was originally a lot grander and more epic in scope, but “hugely complicated”
• There was a version where Hawkeye dies instead of Black Widow but the visual effects producer was against the idea and said, “Don’t you take this away from her.”
• Tony Stark dead at the end was always the outcome.
• Cap was always going to have a happy ending.
I KNEW IT I FUCKING KNEW IT THEY WROTE THIS DAMN THING BY THE SEAT OF THEIR PANTS
F*ck.
Guys… these people got paid for this sh*t! … no words