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IMPORTANT LONG POST: How to deal with Aspies, by an Aspie

Note: This is a post submitted to me, and after reviewing it and consulting with an autistic friend I’ve decided to publish it because it is potentially useful information and good advice in general. As with most accommodations, it would make life easier for neurotypical people as well.

One thing I think this essay is missing is that, especially where the person uncomfortable is a woman or girl and the person with Asperger’s is a man or boy, there are good reasons for the woman/girl to fear giving an outright rejection. Most men and boys will not turn violent, obviously, and it’s most certainly not Asperger’s or any other form of autism that makes anyone violent, it’s the general culture of entitlement and objectification that has been taught to men and boys in general. The problem is that she would have no way to tell who is safe and who is not.

Therefore I’d like to emphasize that every situation is different and there might be valid reasons for people to fear setting boundaries in a clear way. I wish we lived in a better world where everyone felt safe having clear and straightforward conversations like the one outlined here. I agree that it’s a good idea for neurotypical people to take the initiative when they judge that it is safe to, and I hope people with Asperger’s will also stay aware of these dynamics and take initiative, such as asking for opinion and advice from neurotypical friends who might catch the nuances better. I’m rooting for you all to be safe and happy in your interactions!

So an Aspie is doing something off-putting. They could be telling jokes that make you squirm. They could be popping their knee to make a weird sound. They could be strongly opinionated and make you wish they’d shut up about it.

Maybe they have a crush on you. You’ll be able to tell. They might act like you guys are way better friends than you are. They might hug you too much and/or at awkward times. They might stand behind you, waiting for you to finish talking to someone so they can have a private conversation with you. They might hang around you at a dance, just kind of keeping an eye on you so they can snag a slow song with you.

And in case you’re wondering, I have done all these things. I still do sometimes, but I’m getting better.

Crushing on you or not, if an Aspie is bothering you, there’s something very important you have to do:

TELL THEM.

THIS. IS NOT. OPTIONAL.

I mean, technically it is, but here’s what happens if you don’t:

1. They keep bothering you because they don’t know they’re doing anything to make you uncomfortable.

2. You get more uncomfortable and distance yourself from them.

3. You break off your friendship (if you had one) and basically do everything you can to block them out because you can’t take it.

4. They realize they screwed up and react accordingly. (Personally, I lower my self-esteem a couple hundred notches, blame myself and listen to Little Lion Man on repeat until anguish becomes depression, depression becomes apathy and apathy dissipates into normality and the pain goes away. I don’t recommend this. The self-esteem scars will linger for a long time.)

Is this your fault? I’m going to say no, because you’re responding naturally and we were bothering you. It’s an annoying neurotypical habit, but we understand your considerate nature makes you loath to admit we’re putting you off. In fact we probably like you because you’re so nice, and we don’t let go of that perception easily. We’d rather assume we’re the exception (and we probably are.)

But the point is, that cycle is internalized and you need to cut it out. We won’t fault you for it. But it’s still a mistake.

I know it’s hard. I’ve experienced it myself, actually, because something utterly unprecedented happened to me recently. Someone had feelings for me. She was nice but not my type and I was a little put off by her forwardness (but having been in her situation myself, combined with the fact that I was starving for this exact experience, I didn’t mind too much.) And it was hard to go up and talk to her about it. It was very similar to when I would try to ask my crush if I’d been making her uncomfortable recently; you look for an opportunity to talk in private, you see what might be a chance to get them alone, you freeze up. I don’t know if this will help, but in my experience an Aspie is pretty much always down for a private conversation about your feelings if you need to take them aside. This is important to us.

If you think they’re crushing, ask them straight up. Honestly, answering yes to that question is way easier than telling you first. Let them down easy. If they don’t have nice guy syndrome (coughs in direction of Aspies who use their awkwardness as an excuse not to change, or worse, to be actively creepy) they’ll understand completely. Although Aspies tend to think if they completely stop making mistakes and be as chivalrous as possible, they just might be able to turn your heart to them. The key distinction here is that those guys understand your favor is something to be earned, whereas NGS types think they only have to be nice to you once before they’re automatically entitled to it. An Aspie recognizes they might never succeed in winning your affections, but what’s the point in not making sure you’re as happy as possible? We’re like dogs. We’ll do literally anything for you, so if you don’t want us to go out of our way to be helpful, you gotta say “down, boy.” Not with those words.

Also, VERY IMPORTANT, we’re not as totally clueless. We learn to smell when something’s up. Problem is we feel paranoid doing it. That’s because neurotypicals don’t always KNOW an Aspie bothering them and their subconscious could be driving you away. Aspies shouldn’t be ashamed of paranoia when it comes to this kind of thing because it’s rarely unjustified. If they come to you, for glory’s sake, DON’T LIE. My crush did this all the time and it turned out awful for both of us. She only got slightly better before our paths separated; she stopped lying but she’d usually ignore the question and let the ‘seen’ speak for itself. (‘SEEN’ does NOT speak for itself! It confuses the HELL out of us 9/10, so DON’T leave us on read! ESPECIALLY IF IT’S A QUESTION!) If she’d communicated better, we might have had a conversation like this:

Her: Hey ___________, can I talk to you for a second? Me, if this is in person, which is ideal and should always be your first choice: Sure, let’s take this somewhere private. [We do that.] Me: What’s up? Her: I don’t know if you know this, but you’ve been doing some things that make me uncomfortable. Me: Oh no! I’m so sorry! I’d never do that on purpose. What have I been doing? Her: Well, you’ve been following me around a lot. Me: I had no idea that bothered you. I just wanted to hang out. I’m so sorry. Her: It’s alright. You’ve also been hugging me a lot? Me: Yeah, I had a feeling that was bothering you. I was going to ask about that. I’ll stop. Her: Thanks. Me: _______, I want you to know that I care about you a lot and I don’t want you to be uncomfortable because of me, ever. Is there anything else I’m doing that’s bothering you? Her: No. Me: Are you sure? I’ve learned from experience I can’t be too careful. I promise I’ll understand. Her: Well, you have been telling dark jokes and they make me uncomfortable. Me: I promise won’t do that around you anymore. Thank you for telling me. Is there anything else? Her: No. Me: Often, people will be put off to Aspies subconsciously because we’re different in subtle ways. I need you to be careful to take that into account whenever I make you uncomfortable and you don’t know why. But if you do know why, then just take me aside again. I’m always willing to listen and I’m so proud of you for having the courage to talk to me. If it makes you feel better, I feel nervous trying to talk to you alone too. Her: That reminds me— do you have a crush on me? Me: Yes. Thanks— I would have been too nervous to tell you without you asking. Believe me, I tried— remember last time we danced, when I changed the subject and then didn’t say anything? Her: I remember that. To be honest I’ve kind of known for a long time. I don’t feel the same, I’m sorry. Me: That’s alright. We’re still friends, right? Her: Actually, I don’t think we’re that close. Friend isn’t the term I’d use to describe our current relationship, if I’m not being broad. Me: Would you mind if we got to know each other better and hung out more, so we could become friends? Her: I’m willing to try that. Me: Thank you. I won’t expect anything more to come of our relationship than that, even if I may hold out hope that it might. Her: Alright. Will you understand if being friends doesn’t work out? Me: Right now, I don’t think I can honestly say if I will, but I’ll be willing to break off completely if it makes you happy. Her: Alright. Good talk. Me: It certainly was. I’m glad we’re being open with each other.

If we’d sat down and done that, we wouldn’t have had the train collision that happened instead. (Again, I take all the blame on myself; communicating this openly is a learned practice. And obviously, it’d be awkward if your conversations were as specifically and literally honest as the one above.) This applies to romantic and platonic relationships alike. Heck, try this with non-Aspies even. It’ll probably help your relationship with them and help you unlearn the practice of saying what they want to hear and doing what you really mean. Hypocrisy is terrible for interaction and relationships.

tl;dr: If an Aspie is bothering you, TELL THEM.

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The girl next door is crying hysterically. I’ve called the police. I can hear screaming. I’m fucking shaking.

It’s only been ten minutes since I called the police but I’m freaking. Every now and then I hear her choking, she mentioned a black eye,, she’s sobbing and screaming.

The police station is literally only 1km away and it’s been nearly half an hour.

I don’t know if the police have been, but I know if they did they missed the window. They are now over the fight and listening to music and she’ll cover for him if they call in. I said it was violent and that there was a baby there.

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I’m beginning to see why this woman was unconvinced that the police would be a solution. In addition to the abuse likely getting worse after a police visit, I don’t imagine they’ve been helpful in the past.

Is this true that a baby is involved? Could you maybe alert child protective services?

I guess. But I’m worried about that to. The Department Of Child Services, docs, don’t have a great reputation. My grandma used to work/operate a women’s and children’s refuge and she saw them ignore so much abuse in favour of honing in in families that were… Less problematic.

And the other night when they were fighting he said he was going to call docs and say she was an unfit mother and get the child taken into custody, this is HIS child too, and she said if her baby was taken she’d kill herself.

I know people who reported parents giving their 13 year old alcohol, cigarettes and marijuana but docs never even looked into it. And with my brother his ex literally had his kids burn photos of their father (my brother) and scream “burn in hell daddy” as they dud and docs didn’t even contact the mother who did it.

But the other night when the other big fight was happening I was in that house for two hours it’s… Squalid. Every spare inch of the bedroom floor was covered in clothes, there were spilt bongs on the floor, dirty dishes piled up. The baby was covered in vomit and was laying on her stomach, I’m not exactly sure how old she is but she isn’t able to really hold her own head up properly so apparently it’s not great to leave them on their stomach.

I had to pick her up, calm her, change her out of her vomit covered clothes and give her a bottle, which was just cows milk and I don’t think that is normal either?

I’m way out of my depth in terms of knowing what the “right” thing to do is.

I literally cried at your description. Babies shouldn’t be drinking cow’s milk before they’re a year old. While a little can be used in preparing meals once she’s started solids, if she isn’t old enough to hold her head up she’s definitely too young for that. She could be malnourished since she can’t properly digest cow’s milk, and might not be breastfeeding. That poor, poor child.

I can understand your hesitation to call child services, with the awful things you’ve seen. I’m sure they’re available as a last resort when a child is in immediate danger, but that’s often a tough call even for trained professionals to make. Considering the child’s age, conditions, and the food she’s being fed I’d say this comes really, really close, though,

Are there any other services that this woman could access, such as parenting classes for lower-income parents? Maybe there are government services or charities in her area that could get her formula and maybe some clothes and diapers for her baby. Are there any older neighbors with kids who could help out and teach her about her baby’s needs? A social worker who could work with her overall situation? I think this woman badly needs information about how to care better for her baby, and being in contact with caring people in any context may help her leave the abusive situation, too.

This goes without saying, but please check the toll on yourself as well and don’t get more involved than you’re ready to. I’d be careful with this woman, personally--that shit about killing herself if her baby is taken away is really manipulative, even if it comes from a place of understandable desperation and child services’ not-stellar record. If the baby can only be safe and healthy away from her parents (that’s often a big if, of course) then that’s what needs to happen. A child is not their parent’s coping mechanism, and if she becomes a suicide risk due to losing her child--or already is one--she should be getting help for that, not hanging on to a child she can’t adequately care for and threatening others from calling services. Her child’s welfare is not about her.

Obviously it’s much preferable for parents to step up than more children to be thrust on an overburdened system, especially since child services might not intervene anyway. This is such a heartbreaking situation all around, and so difficult.

I think you’re amazing for caring about your neighbor’s situation. You’re a beautiful person and remember always to take care of yourself ❤️

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If there’s someone in my life who keeps making plans with me and then blowing me off at the last minute, should I keep trying? Or should I write them off?

They are my best friend and I really, really want to believe they are still my friend 

but knowing them it would totally be in character for them to repeatedly stand me up in the hope that I’d just stop trying

If they want to be my friend but can’t hang out for some reason I’d be fine with it, but every time it happens I feel like they just don’t care enough about me anymore. I wish I could talk to them about it, but they’ve started being really, really shit at returning calls and texts - like, so incredibly shit that it’s hard to pretend like it’s a genuine lapse anymore

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(I'm the main blog of @pro-abortion-rights btw, don't be scared!) I'd try talking to them about what's going on, asking them what's going on and letting them know how this behavior is affecting you, and if they still won't engage or the reasons are out of their control, it may be time to give them space for a while. I'm so sorry about this situation, it sucks to feel like you're losing a close friend. They may well be going through something of their own, but it's not fair for you to have to endure the fallout from erratic and confusing behavior.

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