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like their dragons the Targaryens answered to neither gods nor men
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jon's "ice and fire" parentage argument for him to be TPtwp needs to die already:

George R. R. Martin to Adria's News: I mean… Fire is love, fire is passion, fire is sexual ardor and all of these things. Ice is betrayal, ice is revenge, ice is… you know, that kind of cold inhumanity and all that stuff is being played out in the books.

No house, no human, no fucking living sentient creature is "ice". It is literally the antithesis of it. They are all encapsulated under "fire" because it represent life. House Stark with its hot temperament "the wolf blood", the ones to "endure" winter, to be the North's Warden IS a flame, an ember, a part of that fire that burns against the Ice. More so than any other andal house, less so than any valyrian one.

You would have more a leg to stand on was your argument that Jon has been touched by ice as he has died but will be brought back but I guess that doesn’t make Jon ✨️special✨️ enough for numerous characters have been brought back; Beric, Catelyn, Drogo, Patchface, etc...

The Jon-is-asoiaf clowns are also the same ones to turn the goody snowflakes/grrm gift to the world/the most oppressive uwu puppies the Starks into Ice, the literal evil of this world, and the same ones who proclaim fire is as bad as ice, two extremes the world must be delivered of when talking about Daenerys but suddenly being the product of these extremes is the solution if its Jon. The brain gymnastics are on Simone Biles's level of wild. 🤡

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Truly wish dany/targaryens stans would stop bothering. The amount of daily posts that aim to "counter" or even pander to nonsensical anti bs is excessive and after years quite honestly boring and tedious.

Quite frankly I fail to understand what we gain from this, adhering to a holier-than-thou moral code, especially since no one else is compelled to even pretend to do so? Is the goal here for them be completely distorted to the point they resemble other characters? antis supposed favorites? As uninteresting to us as they subconsciously are to their stans? Which is the real problem here and the reason why they are the way they are (hypocritical stealing clowns and nuisances?) But perhaps I have a completely different less-morality-bound approach to consuming media in my free time than the rest of my fellow stans.

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Dragons, their unique and extraordinary bond and why the binder is a red herald.

“If you read Fire and Blood, you’ll know there’s definitely a bond between the dragons and their riders and the dragons will not accept just any rider,” says Martin. “Some people try to take a dragon wind up being eaten or burned to death instead, so the dragons are terribly fussy about who rides them.” - Grrm November 2018
We shall not pretend to any understanding of the bond between dragon and dragonrider; wiser heads have pondered that mystery for centuries. We do know however, that dragons are not horses, to be ridden by any man who throws a saddle on their back. - writings of Gyldayn
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all targ antis are acting like rejected incels; constantly running their mouth no one ask or cares for, recirculating whatever anti theory and nonsense woke buzzwords for the millionth time like anyone cares, inventing and canonizing their pathetic headcanons and then unironically turning whatever irrelevant bitchass fave they have into a Targaryen OC with AUs of them getting dragon eggs, being secret half Targaryens, dragonriders, getting all of Daenerys forces and prophecies + dozen atrocious ai edits of olivia or sophie in an elsa wig like pls 🤡

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smartasses; pOweR cOrRuPTs aNd abs0luTE p0wER cOrRuPTs, invariable and with no regards to good intentions (funnily enough is only ever said in the context of talking about Daenerys and her ancestors)

also them about their favs; 🙈 or. "he is sUch a MaNNis" 🤤 (meant unironically) ThE kIng wHo cARed when Stannis runs around burning everbody left and right because he is megalomaniac, sucks strategically and nobody gives a lick about him or his cause + "I want my oh so gullible, naive fave of a litEtaL cHild in an absolute power" 🤡

same goes for the dragons; when their mother commands them she is hitler with nuclear weapons but any able-bodied joe in the series is just the man™ when they get them in their incels fans's power fantasies

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As already said here, given the utter lack of proposals, betrothals and marriages in the show its all more interesting to speculate about all the possible alliances and scheme built through them in the books to come;

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Daenerys could literally be the devil reincarnated and it is still infeasible for her to be the one to torch King's Landing;

A desperate Cersei (who is essentially a female!Aerys), a violent hord of religious zealots, two (rightfully) blood-thirsty sand snakes, the tyrells and lannisters about to be at each other's throats, shady Qyburn doing gods know what, are all IN King's Landing. A cocky would-be claimant is marching with deadly-infected, nothing-to-lose, bell-triggered Jon who-regrets-burning-a-city Connington TOWARDS it, and murderous crazy newly crowned Euron Greyjoy lusts for the Iron Throne.

Yet according to the ✨smart book experts✨all these plots will apparently freeze and these murderous hotheads will patiently wait for Daenerys to speed run through all of her essosi plots; travel to Vaes Dothrak, gather all the khalassars, travel to Meereen by horse pace, fight the war against the slavers, deal with Victarion, the Iron fleet and the Dragonbinder, deal with Viserion and Rhaegal being loose, Quentyn's death and his remaining companions, Yunkai and its allies, burn the dead from the pale mare and the war, divide fiends from foes, which the later includes her husband and the Green Grace (tho both could be dead by the time Daenerys returns) meet Red Priest Moqorro and Maester Marwyn, hear about Azor Ahai and the Others, meet Tyrion Lannister, face Jorah Mormont again, hear from Illyiro and Varys's many schemes, mend the wounds of her people, get a large enough fleet to carry her host somewhere and cross half of the world (a journey for which Tyrion and Quentyn needed an enitre book) with a bus stop at Volantis, where she will likely meet Benerro and The Widow At The Waterfront and council the slave revolt, etc... so she is The One™ to barbecue King's Landing since *checks note*... itS sO SUbvErsIve, but also; iTs bEen bUilT uP to ThAT sInCe Aegon’s Conquest. 🤡

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Something that makes me laugh when sansa stans coo about her ✨intelligence✨, especially in the context of degrading Dany (and Arya to a degree) for her lack of a formal education:

Sansa's last class was whichever she recieved pre-Ned's imprisonment when she was twelve and that by a septa, not even a maester. Yet, from the three girls, Sansa always had the 'best' chance to *actually* recieved a 'proper' education due to always living in close proximity to a maester. In the Vale she may still be very much a pawn, but she could have at least ask to receive lessons, given how Petyr grants her numerous extravagant privileges (x, x)

And yet, GRRM chose her not to do so. In fact she scoffs and dismisses Master Coleman every chance. If Sansa would be as smart as her fans boasts you would assume she would try to resume her education.

Daenerys and Arya on the other hand exploit every chance they get to broaden their horizons; Daenerys can read and write (which is even more remarkable given the fact that she indeed hadn't had maester growing up), speaks multiple languages discusses with and listens to more educated, wise and diverse advisors, and educates herself with books (x). Arya (who lost the privilege the day of father's imprisonment) has proven that she is a dedicated pupil to Syrio Forel, she manages to secured herself a place as a novice at the House of Black and White, where she learns diverse languages, history, poisons, how to stalk and kill unsuspiciously, to dedicate lies and to lie and tasked to learn 3 new things everyday.

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Robb’s Will is often lamented as the most disregard royal declare since sansa stans (that make seemingly 80% up of the fandom on all social platforms) refuse to accept that she has been disinherited as it puts an end to all their rIgHtfUl QitN headcanons, but there is one that tops it; King Aerys’s declare to disinherited Rhaegar’s line after his death and appointment of his second son as his heir.

Since this was in the Jon tag…The Mad King wasn’t of sound mind when he disinherited Rhaegar’s line. Even if he was, he didn’t know about Jon’s existence, so just as Robb’s Will arguably wouldn’t elevate Jon over Bran (whom Robb thought was dead), the MK’s decision arguably didn’t apply to Jon. Also, Dany allowed her husband to kill Viserys and you can’t inherit from someone you killed. - @stargareed (in the comments)

First of all thank you for proving my point. you were one of these few delightful delusional illiterate jon stans/dany antis I was thinking of when writing my original post;

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Robb's Will is often lamented as the most disregarded royal declare since sansa stans (that make seemingly 80% up of the fandom on all social platforms) refuse to accept that she has been disinherited as it puts an end to all their rIgHtfUl QitN headcanons, but there is one that tops it; King Aerys's declare to disinherited Rhaegar's line after his death and appointment of his second son as his heir.

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antis really saw Young Griff and made him their avatar and disposable narrative tool in their delusional fight against Daenerys. The amount of cocky fanon clownery:

yOung GriFf is g0nna bE unIverSaLly seEn as aegon vi! hE wiLl coNquer tHis anD thAt! MarRy x! haVe y, z, k supP0rt! bE beLoVed tHat! s0lVe weSterOs' hunGer crIsis! bE jAehAEryS + aEGon CoMe aGain! daNy wIll reaCt eXaCtly liKe thE jeaLous meGalomAnIac nutcAse I aLwaY waNted Her t0 bE, wHen sHe seEs hOw tRiUmpHaNt he Is!

People legitimately canonize their own plots and HCs ft. him, thick enough to fill out TWoW and ADoS, and have the audacity to expect others to do the same.

Tyrion can literally name him a green boy, compare him to fucking Joffrey, be used as camera characters to show us how spoiled and sheltered (x) and arrogant (x) he is, and Varys's tale will still be taken at face value. A notorious liar, who dgaf about realm and has set multiple wars into actions, suddenly becomes an advocate for the people for their HC of Young Griff as the perfect Ruler only to despite Daenerys, cause that would be so sUbvErsIve.

okay since @rainhadaenerys and @aegontheconquerorwithteats tags show me how misleading my post can come across;
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antis really saw Young Griff and made him their avatar and disposable narrative tool in their delusional fight against Daenerys. The amount of cocky fanon clownery:

yOung GriFf is g0nna bE unIverSaLly seEn as aegon vi! hE wiLl coNquer tHis anD thAt! MarRy x! haVe y, z, k supP0rt! bE beLoVed tHat! s0lVe weSterOs' hunGer crIsis! bE jAehAEryS + aEGon CoMe aGain! daNy wIll reaCt eXaCtly liKe thE jeaLous meGalomAnIac nutcAse I aLwaY waNted Her t0 bE, wHen sHe seEs hOw tRiUmpHaNt he Is!

People legitimately canonize their own plots and HCs ft. him, thick enough to fill out TWoW and ADoS, and have the audacity to expect others to do the same.

Tyrion can literally name him a green boy, compare him to fucking Joffrey, be used as camera characters to show us how spoiled and sheltered (x) and arrogant (x) he is, and Varys's tale will still be taken at face value. A notorious liar, who dgaf about realm and has set multiple wars into actions, suddenly becomes an advocate for the people for their HC of Young Griff as the perfect Ruler only to despite Daenerys, cause that would be so sUbvErsIve.

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