The Sound of Music (1965) dir. Robert Wise

This gives me nostalgia of a time apparently since past where anti-Nazi sentiment was ubiquitous in American society but nowadays we would have half this country openly hating this guy for tearing a Nazi flag and another chunk of the country who would pretend to support this guy and then crack a joke that it should have been a Mahen David being torn up instead of a Swastika and may consider this movie pro-Genocide propaganda for not talking about the US and British Committing A Genocide against the Germans by bombing them, and really this guy's character is just as bad as the Nazis because he is a rich capitalist or something.

But that aside. I suppose there is not much to talk about with respect to this film and its place in the American political zeitgeist. This film is problematic because it is a story about the rise of Nazi power in Austria, and Jews are absent from this film entirely. Captain Von Trapp is vehemently anti-Nazi, but why? The answer doesn't seem to have much to do with Jewish people or the Nazi's treatment of them. Rather Von Trapp is a proud Austrian and the Nazis are just Authoritarians, and of the Wrong Kind.

The movie makes no mention of the Jew Hatred that was absolutely central to the Nazi ideology.

And so we have a lesson in a family/children's movie that Nazis are to be despised but it doesn't really directly teach what is so despicable about that flag that it needs to be torn up with distain.

This film is actually part of the problem of Universalizing the Holocaust. This is a movie where the wealthy white Catholic Von Trapp family is seen as the victims of the Nazi ideology, rather than primarily Jewish people, and so the non-Jewish American audience can relate to them.

But what this teaches is that "Nazis can be just any power I don't like", instead of the truth, which is "Naziism is a particular kind of authoritarian ideology that scapegoats Jews as the source of all of the world's problems and puts vast resources into the industrial factory slaughter of millions of Jewish people in an attempt to entirely wipe out that race in particular."

And so one could come away from this movie with the idea that "Nazis are just anyone whose flag I want to tear up".

And this has caused a lot of problems because antisemites have realized that if they just repeat "Jews are the Real Nazis" loud enough, people will believe them and ignore the fact that the Jew Hater is the one following Nazi ideology.

Meanwhile, the Jew Haters:

As long as you don't dress your Jew Hate up in a Swastika, you can Trojan Horse your Jew Hate into the brain of anyone Left, Right, or Center.

And those in 2024 who do, in fact ,wrap their Jew Hate up in a swastika, and other more dogwhistle-y Nazi-associated imagery......those guys have meanwhile won control of the entire US government. Meet the new Secretary of Defense:

it's like the cultural christianity of leftism is showing no matter it being chock full of atheists

trad christian antisemitism: jews killed g*d and so are ungodly

socialist antisemitism: ((zionists)) sabotage the Glorious Revolution and so are antirevolutionary

You can replace Israel under left wing antisemitism with Jews. A lot of leftist antisemites aren't bothering to try to hide their Jew hate anymore.

just saw a post complaining because somebody pointed out that the jews in amsterdam being thrown into canals in near-freezing temperatures, and that was too whiny. maybe its because i live in a place with very cold and wet winters, but here if you threw somebody into the river when it was 40ºf outside you would 100% be charged with at the very least assault, at most attempted murder (depends on the lawyer). hypothermia is very real, and i know some people are stupid and think that its just an Ye Olden Days thing, but nature has not grown any kinder or any less indiscriminate in recent decades or centuries

like its absolutely wild seeing people downplay the effect that the environment has on the human body. every time someone says something stupid like "its literally not that bad its just cold" i know theyd die almost instantly if left to their own devices in nature. thats the type of person to wear cotton socks in the winter and not know why its dangerous. its kinda funny how confident they are about it though you gotta be honest

honestly i don’t even think it’s that bc if it happened to someone they politically side with, they would absolutely be losing their shit and calling it attempted murder and pointing out how dangerous it is. it’s just that they are obsessed with downplaying jewish pain, both emotional and physical, so they have to mock us for reacting the way literally other human being would — bc at the end of the day, they don’t consider us human.

It absolutely is attempted murder.

The shock of suddenly being immersed in cold water can make you reflexively gasp for air, causing you to instantly drown if your head happens to be underwater. Cold shock can also cause irregular heartbeats and heart failure, even in healthy adults, upon minutes of being immersed. The water doesn't even have to be ice-cold for this to happen.

Not to mention that depending on how you land in the water, you might just straight up pass out.

I honestly feared for the worst when I heard about a person being thrown into a canal. 5°C is only a few degrees above freezing.

Very weird to see people who voted third party being scared of a second Trump term. As if they didn’t vote for exactly that? I mean, tbh those who voted for third party because they wanted to believe in misinformation actually deserve being extremely afraid.

This election wasn’t a joke. But yet so many treated the election like it was and frankly, while they thought it would be funny and “ moral” to promote that antiblack and antisemitic“ free Palestine” bullshit; it was exactly the opposite.

Too bad that once again, those who voted third party; helped usher in Trump being in power and the GOP having full control of all three branches of government.

So damn ridiculous that all this could’ve been avoided if they voted for Kamala Harris. What a shame.

yeah and so telling how the supposed “free Palestine” so called “activists” constantly interrupted and heckled Harris’s rallies but never Trump’s. And now look what Trump is planning on doing to Palestinian people - and to the whole region because his policies will fuel instability and violence that will affect everyone. Yeah. These third party spoilers never cared about Palestinian people. They helped get Trump elected and now they and the works will suffer as a result. Disgusting.

They kept saying all through the Election how Trump wasn't so bad and accusing the Dems of supporting "genocide" as though Trump hasn't promised to destroy all of Gaza first chance he and his good buddy Netanyahu get.

Some of it could have been Russian trolls but not all of them were.

“it doesn’t matter what zionism ACTUALLY is because it's being used to justify horrible crimes-“ ok well antizionism is being used to justify hunting down jews in the streets. so where does that leave us exactly.

sort of a tangent, but the extreme levels of misogyny in regards to the Mary boycott thing are important to note too - and it’s the double punch of antisemitism and misogyny combined, which Jewish women have suffered in varying ways throughout history. Jewish women are demonic witches, ugly, undesirable harpies, or exotic sexual objects. the slut shaming happening to the actress, and by extension to all Israeli women (mocking the casting of an Israeli Jewish woman as holy/virginal/pure, implying that Jewish women are dirty and unusually promiscuous, etc). something about this that should be very clear: it is rape culture. it is the same line of thinking, in fact bolsters, the denial of the brutal sexual assaults carried out against women of all ages, from young girls to elderly, on 10/7 (and the complete disregard that men were also mutilated and assaulted. Jewish men additionally suffer from specific strains of demonization, belittlement, and stereotyping connected to their Jewishness). saying Mary had to be anything but the Jewish woman that she was is primarily based in the idea that Jewish women are particularly wicked, vulgar, and marked by sin. it’s ghastly medieval thinking to see coming from anyone, much less people masquerading as progressives.

Leftists: Rape culture should be dismantled! Unless the women are Jews. Then it's perfectly alright.

i can convince myself anyone deserves to be mistreated. i am also unshakable in my belief that i'm pure of heart and objectively a good person <- how you guys sound to me

just thinking about how totally leftists opinions shifted from 2020 to 2023/2024 like

"a person of color being a bad person doesn't mean they deserve to face racism" >> "bad jews deserve what they get"

"black lives matter" >> "slavery is okay if the houthis do it"

"the US government is bad but people arent usually represented by their governments, most of us didnt vote for trump anyway" >> "all israelis are evil because of netanyahu's actions"

"if one nazi sits down at a table of 9 normal people, there are 10 nazis" >> *allowing swastikas and HH salutes at protests*

"silence is violence" >> "it isnt my job to talk about antisemitism"

"racial minorities shouldnt have to try to pass as white, 'white passing' privilege is complicated and should be treated as such" >> "jews are white and i wont entertain any other possibility, historical or otherwise"

"let minorities define their own bigotry" >> "jews dont know what real antisemitism is and theyre exaggerating anyway"

obviously this isn't a comprehensive list & feel free to add more if you see fit but the amount of things these people did a total 180º on as soon as it was about jews is insane

We had the Me Too movement but suddenly it's rape is resistance and denying that there were any rapes regardless of the mountains of evidence.

And I remember when "go back to X" was uniformly condemned by the left as an incredibly racist thing to say, and yet here we are.

I'm old enough to remember when the left was against Islamic Extremism and was not afraid to criticize certain Muslim Arab majority nations for their human rights violations and the way they treat women. Now it's "women in the MENA region don't have it that bad" or "we should not impose Western values on these countries" and the human rights violations that still occur in those countries are largely ignored if not outright justified.

you know what fuck it if any goy wants to talk about zionism, israel, or antisemitism with me you have to get an A on the following quiz (90%+), without looking up anything:

(read more because it’s a 54 question quiz)

It’s hilarious that in leftist circles it’s a totally valid talking point to say that people shouldn’t wish death upon and/or villainize (southerners/americans/etc) because they don’t control what their government(s) do and often disagree with what’s going on…

…but when you say- “hey guys, maybe you shouldn’t be bigoted and hateful towards Israelis and/or Jews for the actions of the Israeli government, they have no control over what’s going on and probably disagree with it” -suddenly you’re a terrible person who supports baby murder and genocide, and you should off yourself because that totally helps Palestine and definitely doesn’t make y’all “pro-Palestine activists” seem fucking insane.

So when you put up wanted posters with names of Jewish people with accusations about them being murders for being Jewish is it antisemitism yet?

When you put up tens of hundreds of copies all around a university, requiring dozens of people to print and hang up, is that antisemitism yet?

Fucking skin head neon nazi bullshit.

This post is also about the right wing antisemites

im sorry if the people you're defending called for a "jew hunt" you don't really have much of a leg to stand on in terms of insisting they were targeting fans of a specific soccer team

So what do we call the Pro-Israel activity led by those who do not seek accommodation with Palestine but its annihilation?

Thank you for your question. To really simplify the answer, no, Israel has never sought to annihilate Gaza or its people. Any pro-Israel activity calling to end Gaza is very rare and not consistent with what most Israelis (including myself) want.

There has been a *very successful* anti-Israel propaganda campaign from terrorist groups ever since WWII ended, spearheaded by Mufta al-Husseini (a friend of Hitler) and tailored to appeal to progressive intellectuals in the west. The “Gaza genocide” is common knowledge now, but there is simply not enough unbiased evidence to support it.

Many claim that there has been a genocide “for 80 years,” yet Gazan population has gone from 80,000 to 2 million, not consistent with ~80 years~ of genocide. At least not a successful one.

In fact before the recent war started by Hamas, most Gazans just… lived their lives. It was a beautiful piece of land. Roughly 150,000 Gazans crossed into Israel every day for work (and that will no longer be allowed probably, because a few of them turned out to be scoping and mapping the area that would later be the site of the 10/07 attacks). There was no IDF presence there. There were no Jewish residents since 2005, because, well, they didn’t want them and Israel agreed to yank them out. Again before the recent war, Israel accepted 1000-2000 Palestinian citizens a year. They, along with roughly 2 million other Israeli Arabs, have equal rights and opportunities (Meanwhile in the West Bank, a Palestinian faces the death penalty if they sell property to a Jew.). A very small handful of these Israeli-Palestinian citizens committed terrorist attacks on Jews over the years (look up the 2015 Palestinian attacks, as an example. I was there, watching it unfold on the news). There is a border around Gaza because of a history of suicide bombers and other attackers crossing over to hurt civilians. I was also there in the 90’s when that was a common problem. I was scared to take the bus to school, because buses were popular targets.

Meanwhile, Hamas put a foothold on Gaza and started firing unprovoked rockets into civilian areas in Israel, since they couldn’t easily cross the border anymore to plant bombs. They’ve been doing this for 20 years. Then they found a way to cross over en masse and rape/slaughter 1200 noncombatant people (I’m sure you know that story at least).

It turns out that the decades of propaganda over Israel’s alleged horrendous treatment of Gazans gave them billions of dollars in aid to build tunnels and rockets.

Hamas continued to send rockets from hospitals, schools, and apartment buildings so that IDF retaliatory rockets would hit civilians. Then they plaster it all over social media - look what Israel did! Then they continue firing rockets over and over and over again. They continue hanging on to the remaining 101 hostages, at least half of whom are dead.

Meanwhile, the IDF utilizes pamphlets and alerts and sirens and all kinds of methods to clear out civilians before they bomb an area. Not exactly “annihilation” behavior.

Why are they displacing upwards of at least a million Gazans from their homes? Because Hamas built tunnels and weapons under them. For the sole purpose of killing Israelis. So yeah, the IDF wants to put a stop to that. As would any normal army from a normal country.

Reliable sources put the combatant - to - civilian ratio at around 1:1 - 1:2.5, which is extremely low. For a dense urban area, average is 1:9.

Looking at it another way - there are about 300,000 IDF soldiers in Gaza right now. They have superior weapons, they have air space. That’s 100 times the number of Hamas members involved in 10/07. So if they killed Gazans with the same unhinged violence as Hamas did in one day … 100 times the soldiers leading to 100 times the deaths, over 400 days… They would have killed over ~20x the population in Gaza by now.

So between the population growth, the forcible removal of Jewish residents from Gaza in 2005, the multiple offers for a two state solution denied by Hamas, the fact that Israel has never sent a rocket first (and you can look that up), the distribution of aid, and the care taken to minimize civilian death in an extremely urban strip of land as small as Manhattan, there doesn’t seem to be an annihilation goal.

Are they capable of annihilating all Gazans? Yes. They’re a powerful military. But they haven’t so far. And I never see accurate or unbiased information to prove otherwise. What I HAVE seen is footage of Hamas torturing Gazans and shooting at people for trying to flee areas that the IDF warned them they would strike.

Let me be clear that I am in no way minimizing the suffering and death of Gazans, especially considering that children make up such a large number of the population. I’ve seen that footage too. It’s awful. It doesn’t have to be labeled a genocide to be horrific. War is horrific.

I’m not going to sit here and pretend that every IDF member is free from sin, that would be foolish and naive, but to spread misinformation about the war is to embolden terrorists and keep them throwing their own citizens in harm’s way for the sake of killing Jews. Yes, I believe that a large part of the pro-Palestine movement is harming both sides.

We don’t want Gaza. (Egypt didn’t even want Gaza when offered). We want people to stop using it to terrorize us. We continue to receive 100+ rockets a day from Hamas and Hezbollah. One of them hit a kindergarten today.

You are welcome to ask me more questions as long as it doesn’t come from a hostile place.

this is who trump assigned as US ambassador to israel:

people who didn't vote for kamala "for palestine" or whatever: fuck you

Happy now, white Western "Pro-Palestine" "protest voters"?

Of course you are.

Because you don't actually want peace.

You want a war of extermination, just with it ending in Jews "Zionists" exterminated instead of Palestinians, and you think if enough Palestinians are "martyred" the world will see how evil THE JOOS are and support the genocide you want instead*.

As opposed to, you know, just a lot of Palestinians being dead.

*Which if it ever happened would undoubtedly lead to Israel using its nuclear deterrent, so the whole region would be a lifeless radioactive rock anyway. But you think that's okay, because the Jews would be dead. And that's what you really want.