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@lilietsblog / lilietsblog.tumblr.com

Wow, it's been like 10 years since I updated this. Neat. I've made a dreamwidth blog just in case tumblr dies. I think dreamwidth is neat. My username on Discord is Liliet#1061 (and no I don't intend to update it, they're asking but they haven't tried to force me yet). My username on reddit is LilietB. Read PGTE. Homestuck is great. Peace and love on the planet Earth. I'm Ukrainian. Wish us luck.
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a guide to Tumblr user interaction for newbies

Tumblr is the user interaction website. Not an advertisement website, not a popularity website. The goal here is not to become known to as many people as possible, but to be a little less lonely in this big wide world, and help other people be less lonely too.

Methods of user interaction, from most to least commitment:

  • Make a new original post.

Originally it will by default only be visible to your followers; if you want it to be visible to more people, use tags (five or so first tags count for the purpose of putting your post "into the tag" for other people to find outside of your blog). Beyond that you have no control: if it takes off, it takes off, if it doesn't, it doesn't. It's the highest commitment option because if it does take off it might be circulated for the rest of this website's lifespan, and you will continue to see people's reactions to it for as long as you stay here. Editing won't help, people will continue seeing the version that was originally reblogged (more on this later). Deleting will only help if you've put the post under readmore, in that people won't be able to access the original text anymore. Deleting your blog won't remove the post from circulation either. Beware.

It is very, very, very bad etiquette to make your own post with someone else's content without proper attribution. Tumblr is home to a lot of artists, writers and memers who take this shit personally. Reposting someone else's art (wide meaning of the word) as your own is just about the worst offense you can commit around here. If something you want to share was originally posted on another website, link back (unless it's a screenshot of a conversation, in which case just use your judgement for whether it's public and whether you have suficient permission to share it). If it was posted on Tumblr, for the love of god, REBLOG (see below). If you can't, that very likely means you shouldn't.

Good material for making your own original posts: Your art (and writing, and music, and so on). Your opinion on something (anything). A diary entry (though use your own judgement for whether you want to risk it being spread all over the website forever). A witty observation. A meme permutation of your own creation. A funny story you heard (with as much proper attribution as you can manage). Questions you want other people to answer. Excited recommendations of your favorite anything. Positive affirmations. Helpful information compilations. Wistful descriptions of extreme violence you wish you could inflict on politicians you don't like. Hornyposting. Etc.

Bad material for making your own original posts: Talking shit about other users in a non-vague way that allows others to easily identify them. Do not incite or spread harassment, even if they are really really annoying or really really wrong on the internet. Vagueblog if you have to, or take it to DMs (see below). Someone else's creations, as mentioned above. Unless it's formally published and the person has been paid for it, in which case, just don't take credit for stuff that's not yours, and attribute it so others can find the original source. Anxiety bait ("reblog this or have something bad happen to you") / screamers / jumpscares / common triggers (gore, flashing lights, etc) without proper tags. We used to have a lot of those, and nobody liked them, and we decided as a community to not do this anymore. Play ball or be prepared to get mass blocked and/or reported to the mod team for violating community standards. We don't mind hornyposting or threats of violence here, but don't be an ass to people who will see your posts, please.

  • Reblog someone else's post.

You can find other people's posts to reblog on their own individual blogs, in the tags (tumblr.com/tagged/your interest), on your dashboard once you've subscribed to any of the above.

The etiquette around reblogging is a weird and complex thing, but generally: reblogging without adding any text, with or without tags is considered a universal positive.

(Exception: when a person has explicitly asked people to not reblog the post in the text or tags of the post. The "forbid reblogging" function is new and might or might not work well, the point is don't be an asshole)

A reblogged post has its main body duplicated on your own blog, tagged with the tags you added yourself and no others, with your own additions (if any) appended to the end. People can remove additions after the OP (original post) when they reblog, but usually this isn't done. Beware of this also: if you add something stupid to a post and the version with your addition takes off, it also might well circulate forever with no option for control on your end. Deleting will only help if you post your addition under readmore, etc, etc.

The reason it's less commitment is that you will only get notifications from interaction with your post only from the people who will interact with specifically YOUR instance of it, on your blog or on their dashboard where they are following you. If person A reblogs your (reblogged) post, then person B reblogs it from person A, you will only be notified of person A's actions. Anything further down the line is between the OP (original poster) and whoever is further down the line.

Note that the OP gets all notifications for everything that happens with their post, no matter how far down the line. A reblogged post is not alienated from the original poster, it's not "stolen", the other way around, you're adding value and popularizing it (and/or adding harassment and making OP's life hell, depending on context). Most times someone makes a post, they WANT it to be popular and spread around, so unless specifically noted otherwise, reblog away!

As for adding your own commentary to the reblogs: reblogs are a very normal, traditional and classic way to have a CONVERSATION on this website. Don't be afraid to express your opinion, argue, disagree or agree with the OP / any previous opinions in the version of the post you're reblogging. It's even considered perfectly reasonable to copypaste the previous person's tags you are seeing into the main body of the post and express your opinion on THOSE - tags are personal, but not private. It's sort of like whispering to be polite and not interrupt the main conversation, but if someone thinks your tags add value to the discussion - if only entertainment value - into the pot they go.

Tumblr is a clown website for clowns, so making fun of any part of the post above is also valid. (Unless you're being an asshole about it. Don't be an asshole about it.) As is appending a joke or a pun. If people don't like it, they don't have to reblog it. OP will probably appreciate it. Note: "I hate you" or similar in an additional reblog is a common way of expressing appreciation. (If you genuinely don't like someone's joke, you won't parade it around on your own blog. "I hate this" is, sincerely and seriously, a joke love language on this website)

Giving compliments / expressing appreciation is also an always good option. "Holy shit I love this" is a great addition to any post at any time in any context (unless the op specifically asked not to reblog etc etc). The reverse is not true - unless your criticism/disagreement is actively adding value to the public discussion, keep it to yourself or to the less public ways of engagement (more on this later). Or vagueblog about it, always a good option.

A holdover from the horrible old days of notifications clogging up your dashboard is general disapproval of "derailing" a post. If someone made a long post about their favorite Pokemon mentioning the word "stove" and you reblog it with a long monologue on your favorite stoves and the origin of the word "stove" and your personal funny story about using a stove once, it's considered "derailing". We are however no longer in the horrible old days, so derail away if you want to. That said, you can always put any and all of those free association things in the tags - that's the good manners option. Tags are not infinite length, but if you have THAT MUCH to say on the unrelated topic, you can always just make your own post!

Tags are freeform - nothing reblogged can be found in the general tumblr tags, so they only serve for organization on your own personal blog and as storage for your rants. I've seen original posts that have one line of the actual body of the post and then several paragraphs' worth of additional text in the tags. This is quirky and makes other people's lives more dificult if they want to respond, but you don't owe it to them to make it easy to respond to you. Tag away. (Note that your tags are visible to (1) your followers, (2) the OP who will receive the reblog notification along with the tags you used, (3) anyone who looks in the post's notes. Tags are quiet and polite but still public. Use your judgement)

Note that reblogging a post makes the resulting version be part of your blog same as if it were your own post. There's nothing bad about that, but again - it's somewhat high commitment. If you don't want to reblog something, you are always free to. Demanding that other people reblog your post, expressing judgement of those who don't reblog, guilt tripping people over not reblogging, are all considered bad etiquette, and are likely to result in people who would have otherwise reblogged refusing to, just so their followers won't be subjected to that. This particularly goes for artists going on rants over how their like to reblog ratio is terrible (more on this later). You are not anyone's personal advertisement agency no matter how much they wish you were unless they are literally paying you for it. Reblog away, and also don't reblog away. It's your blog, your rules.

Note also that having a blog that consists entirely of other people's reblogged posts with zero commentary or tags is a perfectly normal way of existing on this website that won't raise any eyebrows from anyone. You can even make friends by doing that and nothing else, if people whose posts you reblog choose to talk to you about it. Your blog is as much or as little of a scrapbook of other people's stuff you like as you want it to be.

And finally, there's no such thing as necroposting. If you archive dove someone's blog until you found a post from 2011 you really want to reblog with commentary, go WAY ahead and do that. If they didn't want you to, they would have deleted it. (Barely anyone does that, which is because most people don't mind and perfectly welcome the interaction, however inane. We're a very social media)

  • Send an ask. (username.tumblr.com/ask, or tumblr.com/new/ask/username, unless they have it disabled)

Once upon a time, there were no replies and no private messages on tumblr. The only options for interaction were reblogs, asks, and fan mail - an utterly amazing feature I kind of wish they hadn't gotten rid of, even though literally no-one misses it for its functionality. The flavor though, the flavor!

Asks are the result of the assumption that the website will consist of creators and their fanbases, and the fans can send short questions to their favorite creators that they can then deign to answer publicly for everyone to see, or privately for just that person only. (Or delete the ask and forget it ever existed). This usage actually persists for the local celebrities and microcelebrities, and their inboxes are usually as swamped as you'd expect a celebrity's inbox to be, with as little guarantee they'll ever get around to your ask in particular as you'd imagine. In the meantime, everyone else has adapted asks for more mundane, everyday use.

There are "askblogs" - blogs where pretty much all of their content is answering asks sent in. Specifically advice blogs, where your typical post is a one or two sentence long question (ask) and an essay length answer, and roleplay blogs, where your typical post is an ask of variable length with a reply from the character(s) the blog is for in comic form. There are liveblogs (liveblog blogs?), where asks are usually sent to a separate blog where an "ask screener" reads through them to filter out spoilers before passing them on to the liveblogger to answer, usually in screenshot form - basically the microcelebrity situation but with a better chance of having your ask in specific answered. There are submission-based blogs, which use the submission feature instead of the ask feature and are pretty much the only use for the submission feature on this website ever.

When it comes to regular users, an ask is what you send when you want an up-to-essay-length answer posted on their blog. (Although they can always choose to answer your privately instead, unless your ask is anonymous. And either way they can choose to never answer you at all.) Like if someone is doing theorycrafting in your favorite fandom and you want to prompt them to write up their opinion on your pet question? Asks exist for precisely that. (IRL science, US politics and the bible count as fandoms in my personal opinion)

There are ask games being passed around in reblogs. One genre is along the lines of "send me an emoji to get an answer to this question" or "send me one of these emojis to give me your opinion on me". A post like that showing up on someone's blog means they are participating in the game and hoping someone (you) sends them an ask along those rules. Sending an anonymous ask for these is perfectly acceptable, assuming the feature is enabled - many people disable it, for reasons... good, valid reasons. Sending multiple game asks to the same person at once is an excellent thing to do too (assuming the game allows for it), whether you're anonymous or not. If you reblog one of these games with the hope your own followers / mutuals (people who you follow and who also follow you) engage in it with you, good etiquette is to also send an ask participating in this game to the person you're reblogging it from, because all too often everyone hopes someone will send an ask to them but nobody actually sends an ask to someone else.

The second genre of an "ask game" is the chainmail-like positivity messages. "Answer this ask with 10 things you like and send it to 10 latest people in your notifications" or something along those lines. You are never under obligation to answer these, just leave them hanging in your inbox or delete them if you don't want to. In that vein, passing them on to someone else is generally considered a nice thing to do, whether anonymous or not. Someone thought of you, and zero pressure to go with it.

I'm classfying asks as mid-commitment, as while they won't show up on your own blog (unless you choose to reblog the other person's answer, which a lot of people do, whether to continue the conversation from there or just to archive it for their own later perusal and enjoyment / to brag to their folowers), they WILL show up on the other person's blog. Probably. Unless they choose to answer it privately or not answer at all. You know what I mean.

(I'm classifying "answering asks sent to you" under the "make your own original post" option, as it has all the same caveats and conditions. You can of course always answer non-anonymous asks privately, which has the neat feature (?) that the interaction is subsequently deleted from your own inbox to never be reviewable by you ever, and the other person will get their ask with your answer back with no "reply" button and will have to send a separate additional ask if they want to continue the conversation. Basically answering an ask in private is the "and fuck off" of tumblr social interaction. Don't read it like that if other people do it to you though, lots of people, especially tumblr oldies, don't really think of it that way and just act as if it's private messaging. Because, you know, once upon a time it was the only option for that. Yeah.)

(Also, don't harass people. Don't send death threats / threats of violence / suicide bait. Don't dox. Even if someone told you something really bad about them. It's bad form, usually lies, and mass harassment is decidedly a disproportionate response for anything you can know for sure another tumblr user actually did. There's a reason we have 2.5 actually famous people on here under their own names and the reason is everyone else got harassed off the website. Along with a lot of local microcelebrities. Most of them for no good reason / over lies. People have actually died as a result of mass harassment campaigns, too, so, just... don't, okay?)

  • Replies

This feature is surprisingly new - for the longest time, the only way to engage with someone else's specific post was to reblog it. Then replies appeared for special "question" posts that you had to put a question mark at the end to make, then disappeared again for a while, until finally we got the actual functional feature as it is right now.

It's still not... perfectly integrated with the rest of the website. Replies to your post will show up in your notifications along the same rules as other post interaction notifications (on any level of nesting if you're the OP, just for the people replying to your instance of the post specifically if you just reblogged it), but if they are too long they will not show up in full and you'll need to dig through the notes of the post itself to find them. Which of course include all replies to the post, regardless of level of reblog they occured at, and are sorted by witchraft and wizardry. You can't reply to a specific reply to make a thread either, to adress someone in specific you need to tag them (@username) in the text of the reply. Replying to someone else's reply on a popular post is an exercise in frustration. The feature seems designed for everyone to reply to the OP specifically, so that the OP may peruse the mass of the replies as a whole at their leisure. This is not how the replies are actually used, and they are basically a free for all. Write whatever.

A normal way to interact with replies to your post, originating from back in the days of "question" posts, is to screenshot the reply and make a new post with the screenshot and your reaction / reply to it (assuming it's longer than the one sentence of your average reply), and tag the person you're replying to. (Unless you're dragging them / their opinion / their phrasing, in which case it would be polite to not tag them and also crop their username out of the screenshot or black it out. The same old don't be an asshole rule)

This feature is also, in my estimation, mid commitment. Your reply will be accessible on another person's post, but usually fairly buried, whether under an avalanche of other replies or due to the post's obscurity. Note though that unlike a post, you cannot delete a reply you've made (tumblr is a functional website :) ), meaning if you say something particularly stupid the only way to dissociate yourself from it is to delete your account. Which, to be clear, is normally a gross overreaction to leaving a stupid reply somewhere, because literally nobody cares. Stil, it's an Indelible Mark you're publicly leaving on the internet landscape. Can't leave anonymous replies either. Truly tragic.

  • Personal messages.

I believe there are multiple options people can set for privacy for who can send them these. For most people, if you follow them, you can message them. Just say hi! Compliment them! Share a fun fact! Start a conversation! Most people will appreciate it, even if they will first leave you on read for a couple of months because that's how often they check their inbox, oops.

Personal messages are decidedly NOT integrated with the rest of the website's functionality, which is really the main attraction. The only way to publicize a private messages conversation with someone is to take screenshots and post them, same as if you were using a different app entirely. (Incidentally, don't do that unless you have permission or a really, really good reason. Asshole rule etc)

You will sometimes get spambots in your personal messages. You can easily identify them by features such as: wanting you to go to another website, wanting you to buy something, offering you money for something, offering to have virtual sex with you. Don't act like that, and you won't get blocked and reported by other users!

Personal messages are... mid to low commitment. No-one but you and the person you're talking to will ever know (unless they choose to tell other people, but that's any interaction with another person ever), but you also can't delete personal messages, because tumblr is a functional website :) and personal messages are a relatively new feature. Seriously, we used to use FANMAIL to communicate. Fan fucking mail.

  • Likes.

Okay, real talk. You will see a lot of posts going around saying "likes don't do anything", "likes only upset people" and so on. Absolutely do not take those as a serious guide on whether to like other people's posts. (Well, maybe as a guide on whether to like THOSE SPECIFIC PEOPLE's posts. Not everyone else's.)

A "like" is a way to communicate to the poster (the OP and the person whose reblog of the post you're viewing, if the post is a reblog, which most posts on this website are) that you: (1) agree with them / the latest stated opinion in the reblog chain; (2) appreciate this post's presence on your dashboard / in the tag; (3) really like the thing they made; (4) are happy for them / sorry that happened and sending positive vibes their way. People whose reaction to being told this information is "if you like what I made you should advertise it on your own blog" or "this is clearly a passive aggressive message that my content is not good enough to share" need to log off tumblr and either go touch grass or start an instagram account or something. They are also a VERY SMALL minority. When seeing a stranger's post, the reasonable default assumption is that they will take a like as the positive message it is - someone took the time out of their day to put a little red heart on their post! - and be happy about it.

Likes are a very minimal commitment way to participate in the general tumblr discourse melting pot. You don't need to put anything on your blog, or say a single word to another person. Just decide what you like and what you don't, and send little positive affirmations to the former while ignoring the latter.

You can also access posts you liked later, meaning likes can also function as a personal archive of posts you want to be able to find later, if you don't want to use your blog for that.

And finally, an important function likes serve that cannot be overlooked is differentiating yourself from a spambot. Spambots are a constant cursed presence, and people generally snipe them on sight (block and report). And one easy way to tell a person from a spambot is that a spambot follows you out of nowhere and does not interact with your posts in any way (maybe reblogs something at some point to make their blog look like it's real). A person, on the other hand, generally follows you because they like some of your posts... which until the recent surge of stupidity, would generally be visible in your notifications via a string of liked posts before, around or after the follow notification. Distinguish yourself from a spambot by also doing that! In my observations, an average like:reblog ratio for posts and for individual followers is about 10:1. That's average, mind you, you have every right to reblog nothing or reblog everything.

(In my personal opinion, it's reblogs without a like that come across as somewhat hostile... but in the recent climate, one has to assume that people don't mean it like that are just took the 'how dare people interact with me without promoting me' moaning seriously)

  • Voting in polls.

The absolute newest thing to happen on this blue hellsite, and THE lowest commitment you can possibly have. It doesn't require you to write words AND is anonymous. No-one will ever know. But you DO need to make an account, so... still in some ways more commitment than sending an anonymous ask? Judge for yourself!

And please, for the love of god, like the posts you like.

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A brief summary of how user engagement is tracked on Tumblr, for the newcomer:

  • When you like or reblog a post, that counts as user engagement for the person you liked or reblogged from, and shows up in their notifications.  
  • If the person you liked or reblogged a post from wasn’t the original poster (i.e., you’re liking or reblogging a reblog), it also counts as user engagement for the original poster, and shows up in their notifications as well.  
  • This means that user engagement from your likes and reblogs can potential accrue to two different people, the original poster and the person you liked or reblogged from.  
  • Consequently, you cannot “steal” user engagement from someone by reblogging their post.  
  • This is one of the very few areas where Tumblr is actually functions more reasonably than other social media platforms.  
  • Note that this is only true if you use Tumblr’s built-in reblogging function. If you save someone else’s content to your local device and append it to a new post, you effectively become the original poster from that point on.  
  • This means that on Tumblr, “reblogging” and “reposting” are two different things; if you see someone complaining about “reposting”, this is not the same as reblogging.  
  • Commenting when reblogging does not affect any of this – unlike, say, Twitter, where quote-retweeting causes user engagement to accrue to the quote-retweet and not to the original tweet – and you can and should do so freely.  
  • However, every Tumblr user can see who exactly you reblogged a post from, which functions as a soft disincentive against making inane comments; if you make a dumb comment on a reblog, people who see your reblog may “back up” one step in the reblog chain to reblog a version of the post without your comment.  
  • Nobody understands tags, and there’s a fair amount of evidence that how tags work changes periodically and without warning.  
  • Tags are a divine mystery.

(For those going “how is this not obvious”, it’s about prior expectations, bro. On many major social media platforms, using the built-in sharing tools does divert user engagement from the original post. For example, as noted above, quote-retweeting on Twitter causes likes to accrue to the quote-retweet instead of the original tweet. This is because Twitter is hostile to human life.)

It’s really good for stuff like this to go around every once in a while!  Strange as it may seem, people may in fact migrate here from Twitter or Instagram, where this stuff works differently and where there are different expectations of engagement.

DON’T FORGET - *most* Tumblr users DO NOT MIND if you engage with their OLD posts!  (Apparently on Instagram they do? this baffles me.) 

Many also don’t mind if you “spam” their notifications with a bunch of likes or reblogs in a row.  

Tumblr has a rich culture of Very Old Posts continuing to make the reblog rounds, and people become fond of them.

Also, unlike Twitter, you can reblog the same post multiple times.  Heck, you can reblog the same post every hour on the hour for days. (Please don’t.)  But you do see a lot of “oh this came across my dash again, must reblog” with posts users are fond of.  This is fine.

Tags ARE a divine mystery.  People use the tags both for organization (inasmuch as this works, sometimes), and for added commentary.  Commentary added to the tags will generally be seen by those who follow that person and see their reblog on their dash; but the OP and whoever they reblogged it from can also see the tags in the notifications. 

So again – you can use the tags for commentary, and many people do. But people WILL see it.  It just won’t “stick” with the post… necessarily.  Tumblr also has a culture of people seeing some tags they think are relevant or clever, and reblogging a post with someone else’s tags included.  So bear that in mind as well – something you put in the tags could get “pulled up” into a reblog chain by someone else, and this is generally seen as fine.

As a noob me self, nice!

Tumblr users WILL get mad about their posts getting wildly popular and widely reblogged. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth, because it means you’re gonna see the same comment from 300+ different people who all think they’re clever. This is fine, you can reblog it anyway. It’s their fault for making a popular post anyway, especially if that post was about how much people hate it when their posts get popular.

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You ever see two different posts on your dash that you totally agree with, and then like a day later you realize that they’re supposed to be two different sides of an argument, but you didn’t notice because they aren’t actually mutually exclusive?

Recent examples include:

1. Fanfiction is good and creative and encompasses a wide range of styles, genres, relationships to the source text and levels of complexity; ALSO it’s also good to read things that aren’t fanfiction; but ALSO there’s also a lot of reasons why someone might not and I am not The Judge of Hobbies so do what works for you.

2. A lot of media includes sex scenes that don’t really add anything to the story and just seem like they’re there because someone vaguely felt like there should be one and it’s annoying; AND sex scenes can add a lot to the story when they’re done right AND sometimes they’re just there for fun and that’s actually good AND people aren’t automatically puritans just because they don’t like sex scenes in media AND sometimes culturally conservative rhetoric leaks into progressive spaces and it’s not wrong to be wary of that AND our culture is simultaneously hyper-sexualized and sex-negative and that makes these conversations tricky sometimes.

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I actually think the real advantage tumblr has over other websites is the ability of "reblogging" to create posts with contributions from multiple users. This allows people to build on others' posts, whether that's derailing them with a terrible joke, drawing the scenario proposed as a comic, answering the question posed originally in lively essay format, or rewriting the previous interaction as a scene in Shakespearean iambic pentameter.

This is also why Tumblr is hard to make profitable. Individual users have relatively little power to create good content. It's interactions between users that actually creates the good content, and therefore, no one involved in the good stuff on Tumblr can really claim to "own" it or be the "creator."

Posts have to navigate through Tumblr to pick up the people that can add to them in a constructive way, and then when users interact, the whole interaction can spread across the website as a new evolution of the content. There's no way to simplify this process.

Theres a whole ecosystem running here. It's not as simple as Creators and Consumers, and you can't simplify it to that. That's not how ART works, let alone posts. There's symbiosis. The users that do the nitrogen fixation aren't the ones photosynthesizing. The detritivores can't also be the predators. The "rappers doing normal shit blog" has a different niche than the person that asks why Lil Wayne has socks on in the jacuzzi, who has a different niche than the person who says "those are his hooves, you bitch!"

It's like bioavailability, you see. The user that responds "Those are his hooves, you bitch" is like a predator on a high trophic level, unable to directly feed on producers, needing primary consumers to convert the post into a form that makes a punch line possible.

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I am almost certain somebody’s made this note before, but. Man. The way memes on most platforms nowadays have a shelf-life so short that by the time you’re done making one, it’s out of style… compared with how ones on Old Internet could go a couple years and still be OK.

But Tumblr? Tumblr has always been the same. It’s kind of like a reminder of the ways of old. You introduce a meme to these people? It is NEVER going away. In 2022, Spiders Georg lives in harmony with Blorbo From My Shows; Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way follows the little German boy into the cave of Bluntsmoken; Sans Undertale thrashes Plinkos Plonko, the Plinko Horse. Maybe it’s that we’re not like other sites (true), or that we’re less susceptible to cringe culture, but there’s something about the lifespan of our memes that warms my heart.

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this is entrapment

two equally delightful paths here:

1) a very simple and genuine “i like your shoelaces”, which tells me that you are either a lesbian or a very cool ally

2) “i like your shoelaces” followed by the pronounced grimace of one recalling their past sins, which tells me that you were a 2012 tumblr user. i now hold the power in this conversation and you are at my mercy.

if you know about 2012 tumblr how do you hold any power in any conversation

well, stucky fanfic url, the trick is to not let them know that you are also cringe

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excusing

this is the most poignant burn ive seen all year

everyone lost

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So it seems like battle lines are bei g drawn re: the latest censorship fuckup, with people getting increasingly heated over whether this is Apple or Tumblr’s fault.

Meanwhile, other people are saying the list of banned tags makes no sense whatsoever.

Time for your favourite Infolife oracle to clear some shit up. My conclusions are speculative, but built from the info I’ve seen circulating.

1. It’s both their faults. You dumbasses.

Apple kicked back tumblr’s latest update with a porn flag and the steps to reproduce. They did not tell tumblr how to fix it, only to do so. Tumblr, in its infinite !wisdom, appears to have completely forgotten the 2018 Titty Ban and decided the best solution was to let a poorly-trained ML algo loose on the production environment without oversight. (More on that in a moment.) The key takeaway here: Everyone can stop saying “Don’t blame tumblr, this was apple’s call” or “don’t blame Apple for tumblr’s typical user hostility.” They both suck and both played a part.

2. Staff’s assurances that ‘we’re working to fix this’ don’t mean what you think.

Because here’s the thing: They could fix it instantly by turning off Censorbot-209. They are not doing so, because pleasing their userbase is strictly secondary to pleasing Apple. When they say ‘we’re working to fix this,’ what they mean is ‘we’re working to find the least permissive version that you won’t burn us at the stake for.’ They aren’t trying to fix the censorship, just find a level you won’t complain about.

3. Fighting over this is doing the enemy’s work.

Because of points 1 and 2, the people who profit most from bickering over whose fault it is are the ones who should be made least comfortable in the wake of these changes.

4. The banned tags list absolutely makes sense…

… If you understand how pornbots and tags work, and the haphazard way tumblr uses machine learning and completely ignores impact on the marginalized.

Pornbots’ primary attack vector is leeching views. An entry-point bot finds something popular and latches onto it, half a dozen more show up and join in, and all of those are then reblogged and boosted by an incestuous network of pornblogs. Anyone who runs even a mildly popular blog can attest to the patterns here, and if they still had the Labs ‘reblog chains’ feature I could show you illustrations.

Some tags, by their nature, are going to be nearly universal - the whole point of social media tags is so you can group content by subject instead of by source, after all, and communities spawn cultures. This probably isn’t new information to you - but it is to the pornbots, which are dumb automata after all.

And the pornbot nets? Utterly dwarf the follower count of your average blog.

Putting all this together, what (it appears) is happening is something like this:

Legit user: *posts a selfie* #me

Pornbot: Hmm. There seem to be a lot of impressions under #me. Time to steal some. Better keep that popular tag, too. *reblogs it* #me

Other pornbots: *pass it around endlessly* #me #me #me #me #me

CB-209: Pornography detected. *weapons cocking*

Legit user: *posts another selfie* #me

CB-209: Please put down the pornography. You have 20 seconds to comply.

It’s stupid as hell, absolutely avoidable if you have even a single competent sentient being involved in the implementation, actively user-hostile… And also exactly what I’d expect to see here.

Expect to see a lot more of it on the corporate internet as time goes on. Users are a commodity, not a clientèle; as such, your needs do not, will not, and cannot matter in the face of lost revenue.

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bogleech

Okay there’s notes on this implying it’s like “interesting if it’s true”….this isn’t a hypothesis, this is a literal description of how it works, and this same problem has been coming up for almost as long as the internet has existed. It can never be stopped because the bots learn to act more human at the same rate any software can hope to identify which is which. This is the same reason why we have to Pick Which Images Have Trucks in them to log into anything now.

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lilietsblog

...except for tumblr, which is apparently too stupid for it

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sreegs

alright let's talk about Apple and Tumblr's current predicament. If you don't know already, I used to work at Tumblr as an iOS engineer. Though I keep in touch with current staff at Tumblr (what little that are left that I know) I do not have picture of what's going on internally. The banned word list is absolutely perplexing and I can only theorize why tags like 'long post' are banned from appearing on iOS. What I can do is give you a peek into how the Apple App Store review process works, so you have an idea of the hell that Tumblr staff is dealing with right now.

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beesmygod

op i want to thank you for being extremely open about a process that is completely opaque to i imagine the vast majority if not 99%, of all people using any of these products. this process is a nightmare lol. holy cow

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tumblr is so good because it’s not something you really Make original content for (I mean visual artists and writers/authors certainly use it as a tool to publish works) but like I don’t log on and think “whoa, it’s been awhile since I wrote an original text post. I’d better get on that or I will lose subscriber” like no, we just fling thoughts into the crowd as they occur to us, and thinking isn’t even MANDATORY here. you don’t HAVE to share what’s on your mind. Reblog a picture of a mouse eating bread and log out again for 2 hours.

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lilietsblog

tumblr is good bc it lets you use Stuff You Like as the content of your blog. I have followed a million* blogs where i scrolled through their first page and it was full of Good Shit and none of it was an original post and they didnt even tag it let alone leave replies but they Filtered and they Concentrated and you can tell a lot more about most people by the things they reblog than the things they can come up with on their own I think

* probably less

like tumblr has no bareer of entry into being a blogger and a part of the blogger social circle (tm). no thought head empty? just repeat someone else’s. they’ll be grateful

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not-poignant
Anonymous asked:

I know notes are important especially on art posts, & reblogs are even better than likes, but I can't help but frown when I see people complain that they get too many likes compared to reblogs. I get it, I'm an artist too but especially on posts that only get 5 notes for hours of work, I appreciate every like i get. I'm also kinda scared people will avoid liking posts so they don't feel guilt tripped into reblogging, and they'll just end up ignoring most art posts altogether (as I do, sometimes)

Yes!!! You’ll notice that I pretty much never reblog posts that are like ‘likes / kudos aren’t enough, it needs to be reblogs / comments’ etc. and there’s reasons for that.

I feel like a lot of these folks don’t understand audience metrics. Back at university, when studying how the audience engages with the media, we learned briefly of the 10/10/10 rule. The numbers may have slightly changed over time, etc. but essentially we learned about audience engagement, and the different tiers of engagement.

When applied to like, art and writing, there’s actually really simple statistical explanations for why people don’t get as many reblogs or comments in proportion to likes and kudos. And that’s simply because the bulk of an audience - I hate to say it - just doesn’t care as much as the uber fans do. They like it in a ‘cool I’ll like that’ and that’s about the sum of it.

So standard stats of engagement go like this:

Your audience engages with the thing (art/writing etc.) That’s your hits.10% of that group like the thing enough to kudos it. 10% of that group like the thing enough to then comment. 10% of that group like the thing enough to see if you have a Tumblr/find you elsewhere on the internet. 10% of that group might actually go buy prints etc.

Tadah! The numbers change, of course! But that’s like, tiers of human engagement. That’s fundamental stuff. People can’t care about everything equally, and so they really just don’t.

This is how someone with 200 followers may only get 20 likes and 2 comments/reblogs. (And it skews wildly - especially on Tumblr where people tend to not like every post they actually enjoy - because like-culture on Tumblr is sort of…more like bookmarking a thing, which falls into the commenting metrics.)

There’s also these stats, which are a bit disturbing:

Your audience engages with the thing. That’s your hits.

About 10% of that group are engaging with it oppositionally. That means, they are engaging with it because they don’t like or hate it. You rub them the wrong way and they just haven’t unfollowed yet. They actually enjoy hate-watching. They like to feel better about themselves and they can do that after reading / looking at your thing. etc. That’s fun right?

I mean those people are the ones who watch a McDonald’s ad and then go ‘I fucking hate McDonald’s, that’s trash.’ If you agree with them, you’re like haha yeah - congratulations, you are oppositional readers of McDonald’s! But here’s the thing, no one escapes that. No creator escapes that. You’re probably doing well if you have oppositional readers. Most people have no idea they have them, because most oppositional readers engage privately and are satisfying some weird thing inside of themselves. I.e. people who hate McDonald’s after an advertisement are like…not very likely to then call McDonald’s and tell them that.

And then the majority of the audience engages neutrally. Meaning they can either take or leave the thing. It’s just good to have in the background for them. They may turn into an oppositional fan, or a favourable fan. Usually it’s the latter! I often think there’s less of this online (neutral engagement), because people tend to curate their experiences more. But then I think of the amount of folks I follow who I realistically only followed because they drew or wrote my OTP that one time, and now I really am just a neutral follower.

That’s…the bulk of most people’s experiences, unless you unfollow people all the fucking time, lol.

So if you have enough of an audience to engage favourably - to press the red heart button, to even leave comments sometimes etc. that’s amazing, because as you can see - the stats are like…not ultra favourable towards it, and it’s probably not going to gain you anything but resentment if you start guilt-tripping your audience.

The neutrals will leave, the oppositionals will stay because they enjoy the drama (which is really not what you want), and the favourable folks are generally already trying pretty damned hard in a world of complete media oversaturation and may also leave to find someone who appreciates them more (pro-tip for the folks out there, if you already get comments or reblogs and frequently mention not getting comments or reblogs your commenters are often going to feel unworthy and unvalued and unappreciated). And, as you say, some might be scared away from ‘lighter’ engagement because they feel guilty for not doing more energy-intensive engagement on a blog that frequently posts guilt-trippy posts.

I mean hell, I even thank my lurkers, because they’re awesome. Somewhere out there, there are people who feel favourable about my work and I’ll never see a kudos about it, but I know statistically, they’re there. And they’re awesome. Like, some of those people will read this post. Hi folks. *waves*

But anyway, tl;dr, I completely agree with you. I don’t want to scare my audience away and I don’t believe in guilt-tripping. There are ways to encourage audience engagement for the people who are shy etc. and it’s mostly like ‘you can leave a kudos in the comments!’ or ‘I love my commenters thank you for inspiring me’ and maybe someone wants to get in on that love or ‘you folks who are leaving kudos on a regular basis / like my tumblr posts are the best’ etc.

And also tl;dr a lot of people do not understand audience engagement principles. It is literally impossible to change the stats so that 90% of your audience is super favourable and comments all the time. And why? Because that’s just not how humans work. We’re all engaging with a million different things in a million different ways, and that leads to creators having audience engagement metrics that resemble the above. There is already Too Much Stuff, and people have lives and cannot exist to just be sycophants over every type of media they engage in. It’s just…how that is.

Also like, reblogs and comments are important, word of mouth is really important to creators, but it’s like…it’s never apportioned fairly. It isn’t proportioned to hours put in, how good the final piece of art is, etc. That’s…the way it is. That’s not the audience’s fault and it’s not the creator’s fault. We’re all just doing the best we can in a world where someone’s 10 minute sketches will get 40,000 notes and someone’s 300 hour piece of artwork will get two likes and that’s it.

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the thing i’m going to miss most, honestly, isn’t the porn, but the fact that people felt free to express themselves here, to vent, to complain, to celebrate. no other social media site has that.

and i think that part of it is because tumblr managed to really remain as close to outside of “real life” as possible. your parents aren’t on here. the people you see in real life aren’t on here. it was truly a space that was able to exist for you.

the people you followed and who followed you did so not because they felt some personal obligation (in the way facebook and twitter can feel), but because they liked what was being posted. they liked you being you, or at least being your tumblr persona.

and, perhaps more importantly, we all existed as a username. what appears next to your posts was nothing more than an avatar and that. real names were not only not required, but also discouraged, because you wouldn’t see them.

all of these things combined really created such a weirdly unique experience. and i’m really going to miss it

to expand on this a little, and bring in some thoughts brought on by some other reactions i’ve seen

tumblr was (and is, at least for now) very much a part of the Old Internet, the internet of the early 2000s, where you had a space to be weird and experiment and play around however you want. the internet that was really exemplified by geocities, a free-for-all smorgasbord of things that each publisher found interesting and felt like sharing.

i think it’s fair to compare the change of the internet to gentrification. we very much started with this wild west, no-mans-land that was inhabited by outcasts and artists who went by pseudonyms. as time went on that became less and less the case. now almost every site has a real name policy, and literally everyone is on the internet. 

tumblr managed to stay weird until recently. tumblr managed to keep the oddballs hidden, to let people inhabit whatever persona they wanted, and to create and discard them as they pleased. and that’s something very special. something that “normal” society doesn’t have.

if you go on twitter, you’re expected to go as yourself, and while you can create numerous profiles, changing between them is difficult, and twitter will do its damndest to make sure you find people you know in real life. same with instagram. facebook is even more “real life”. and there’s a consequence to that. all the baggage that exists in real life exists with those sites.

on twitter the most popular posts are by celebrities, by names you’ve heard of in passing. on tumblr the most popular post is literally some shitpost by a random user.

facebook, and all the other “real name” people, talk about how that keeps people authentic, how it makes people act better, how it’s a “meritocracy”. they all exist in an ignorant privileged white boy bubble. without a real identity attached to an idea you don’t know what the person behind it looks like, you don’t know the life they live, and because of that your unconscious biases can’t come in to play (okay yes they can because we have biases around word usage, but less so than around skin color). the real “meritocracy” is the one where everyone is at a level playing field. and that was, to an extent, the old web (ignoring access to resources and limited internet access for a second if you will).

kicking off nsfw content and “female presenting nipples” is just another step of that old web disappearing, and the gates of capitalist, oppressive society going up again. and that’s what’s sad.

the last hold out of the old neighborhood is being torn down for condos.

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If you’re like sleep spooning a centaur and they roll over in bed do you just die

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null-set

sleep on her back, then you’ll just roll off if she shifts

i dont follow

okay but what if you had a special bed instead 

nothing says commitment like buying a new mattress

Centaur Comfort Mattress™: The Horse Hole Keeps Your Bones Safe

I’m honestly so glad Tumblr discusses things like “How can I comfortably sleep with a centaur?” and “What kind of chairs would dragons have?”

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at this point I think all of Tumblr’s staff needs to just be collectively fired and this site should scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up because holy shit

users: “ban the porn bots”

staff: *breaks the search function*

users: “Ban. The. Porn. Bots.”

staff: *tags suddenly stop working*

users: “Please just ban the fucking bots.”

staff: *fucks up recommendations entirely*

*app ends up being taken off the store for not banning the bots*

users: “all we ask is that you ban the bots. how fucking hard is this?”

staff, in all it’s benevolent wisdom: *starts randomly just deleting NSFW blogs left and right*

I don’t have the slightest idea how to code but at this point I’m 95% *I* could do better.

@staff , get your fucking shit together

Ban. The. Bots. Not. Actual. Users.

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lilietsblog

fun fact! the bots I’ve been banning no longer post nsfw

they use phrases like ‘dating sites’ and pictures that are still erotic/suggestive but don’t contain actual nudity

it’s almost like it was not nsfw that was the problem

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