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Aremo Shitai Koremo Shitai Onna no Ko ni Mietatte

@lilietsblog / lilietsblog.tumblr.com

Wow, it's been like 10 years since I updated this. Neat. I've made a dreamwidth blog just in case tumblr dies. I think dreamwidth is neat. My username on Discord is Liliet#1061 (and no I don't intend to update it, they're asking but they haven't tried to force me yet). My username on reddit is LilietB. Read PGTE. Homestuck is great. Peace and love on the planet Earth. I'm Ukrainian. Wish us luck.
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Alright ladies we need another lesbian icon aside Thor so i present:

T'challa, king of the lesbians

Alright when thors called a lesbo icon its okay but when its tchalla, the second man we are claiming its suddenly “enough” what?? Hmm i smell racism

Yall white lesbians are mad about this post please spread this around more

Aneka and Ayo are former Dora Milaje that are a couple in the comics. So this is basically canon.

Thor: dumb sports lesbians who love beer and brawling. Bad at fashion and talking to girls

T'challa: refined combat lesbians who love trees and dancing under the moonlight. Excellent at talking to girls and being fashionable without trying.

The dichotomy we need

exactly, thor attracts hopeless lesbians who desperately want advice from this Smooth Motherfucker and t’challa attracts smooth lesbians who like, see this trash pile and are like “he’s the worst we need to help him”

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joss whedon: loki tortures and murders people for fun, and, despite being the god of CHAOS, is a fascist who says things like “it’s the unspoken truth of humanity that you crave subjugation” 

taika waititi: loki is an annoying little shit who day-drinks, puts on theater about himself, and fucks his way to the top

joss whedon: loki and thor are gods, so they always talk proper and posh and in cryptic riddles so for no reason. it makes them seem more powerful and mystical.

taiki waititi: one time when they were kids loki turned into a snake because he knows thor loves snakes and then thor went to pick up the snake and then loki turned back into himself and screamed “yueagh, it’s me!” and then he stabbed thor

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Taika Waititi has a deeper understanding of Norse mythological accuracy than Joss lol

Taika Waititi took a lot from Walt Simonson’s run on The Mighty Thor and we are all the better for it. That run is brilliant, but really ridiculous in parts. But brilliantly ridiculous. I even saw some bits from Loki: Agent of Asgard. As far as I’m aware, Taika Waititi was staying close to the Marvel Thor mythology as well as the actual Thor Mythology and ingeniously blended the two.

Beta Ray Bill cameo’d in the Thor Ragnarok movie. If you don’t know who he is, he is an alien horse faced man with the power of Thor, who competed in what I can only describe as the Korbinite Hunger Games (Korbinite is his race) to become his planet’s protector, but hos planet was destroyed by Surtur. Oh and he wields an enchanted hammer called Stormbreaker that he got in a fight to the death with Thor, but they didn’t kill each other and ended up becoming best friends and brothers. Kind of.

But this is what he looks like.

Just look at that! How did he become the most beloved Thor supporting character? Everything about him shouldn’t have worked. But it did. And he’s still around today. Like in the most recent issue of Squirrel Girl.

Overly dramatic Thor! Yes, just like how Thor in Thor Ragnarok was overly dramatic about his hair, it’s only being faithful to the source material.

So, when it came time to do the Ragnarök storyline that he had been building up for just over a year, what did Walt Simonson name it?

Ragnarok and Roll. Ragnarok and Roll. He went for a pun.

Then we have this seemingly offhand joke during Loki’s play, The Tragedy Of Loki Of Asgard, where Loki pranked Thor by turning him into a frog…

Only it’s not an offhand joke! It’s actually a reference to a short storyline in which Loki turns Thor into a frog so he could rule Asgard. Because of course he did.

But wait. It gets stupider.

Ladies and gentlemen, both, neither and everyone in between, I give you Throg! Frog Thor!

The cover never lies.

I’m sure this moment where Thor holds Loki and throws his hammer to have him undo a spell looks familiar.

Yes, only this time, Loki wasn’t in the guise of Odin. If you’re wondering how it ends, Loki breaks the spell, Thor tosses him free and catches his hammer. Just like in Thor Ragnarok.

But it wasn’t just the stupid things Taika Waititi took. He took drama as well and he adapted one of my favourite dramatic moments of Walt Simonson’s run on Thor, and one that never fails to make me misty eyed.

Skurge’s heel face turn protecting his Asgardian friends from Hela’s undead army-and dying in the process.

Speaking of Hela…

In the comics, she didn’t injure Thor’s eye, but they did end up in an almighty fight that ‘destroyed’ Thor’s face.

And these are all from actual Thor comics. That Walt Simonson wrote.

So not only does Taika Waititi know more about Norse mythology than Joss Whedon, but he knows more about the source material than Joss Whedon. Mainly that it can be goofy, but also serious at the same time. That Loki’s a bit of a prick, but will generally undo his mistakes when he goes too far. That Thor’s overly dramatic and quite proud and, generally just loves himself, his hair, his image and his looks. That Odin is actually proud of Loki and loves him unconditionally. That Loki and Thor, generally, have a good relationship, even though Loki turned Thor into a frog. And that they all… Pal around with an armoured alien space horse. Who once beat up Thor, took his hammer and his powers. And has a spaceship named Skuttlebutt. Yeah…

And unlike Joss, Taika also respects said source material. I mean, he was true to The Mighty Thor source material. He was true to the Norse myths. And what we got was amazing. This is the Thor movie we’ve deserved from the very beginning. And the one we’ve finally got.

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the one thing I will never forgive infinity war for doing is killing all of thor’s character development from Ragnarok in less than two scenes lmao

first, there’s no sign of Thor’s powers that he learned to harness with Hela in the initial battle with Thanos. Like even if it wouldn’t do that much against Thanos they should have at least illustrated that, but instead they left him defenseless and made it so he had to get a even bigger weapon than his hammer. I mean, the whole point of Ragnarok was that he was he didn’t need his hammer to be Thor. That he was so much more than just a warrior with a fancy weapon. Secondly they gave him his eye back, which defeats its original intention as it was supposed to signify Thor taking over Odin’s place as allfather and accepting his responsibilities to his people. In this essay I will

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to be fair Thor is a god of THUNDER and was on a freakin SPACESHIP. of course he cant harness his WEATHER powers on a SPACESHIP

agree re: eye tho

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Thanos, a philosophy and economics double major who thinks once you eat a plant it will never grow back: i have to slaughter half the universe’s population with the infinity stones, so that no one ever runs out of resources and starves

Thor, a phys ed and linguistics major with a minor in women’s studies, taking a sip of his strawberry protein shake: can’t you just use the infinity stones to create more resources tho?

Thanos: blocked

Thor: Unblock me I need to tell you something

Thanos: What?

Thor: Bitch

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I wonder if Thor’s Allspeak extends to animals

Bee: *is present*

Thor, turning to Tony: He says this stupid damn city needs more flowers and pollen-bearing plants because you’re making him have to work a 16-hour shift every day just to feed his wife and kids

Tony: What the fuck Thor we’ve talked about this

Dog: *Bark bark bark*

Thor, sternly: No, Captain America’s pants are not fit for consumption

Steve, with no idea that Thor can speak dog: ???!?!????!!!??

Fly: *hums*

Thor, leaping from his chair: Oh what the FUCK did you say about my hair?? Oh you want to fuckign go do you?? Is that what you fucking want??? Well Step the FUCK UP then you stupid ass buzzy BITCH *summons lightning*

DUM-E: *Beep boops*

Thor, patting Tony on the back: well done my friend

Tony: For what?

Thor: Your robot is telling me all about how well his dad oiled up his joints this morning and keeps saying ‘I love him’ on repeat. He has been doing this for an hour.

Tony, immediately tearing up: oh my fucking god Thor

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I love you, my sons.

This is such an interesting contrast in reactions between Loki and Thor with the context of Odin’s quote, because you can tell that while Loki is taken aback, shocked, and even saddened by these words, Thor is still reeling from the revelation of Hela and impending Ragnarok and it doesn’t seem like Odin’s words even really register to him. He knows and has always known that Odin loves him; he’s never been made to doubt it and he has no reason to react with anything other than the barest acknowledgement while his head is still spinning with this new truth he must face. 

Loki, however, is much more preoccupied and consumed with the verbal acknowledgement of Odin’s love, and the issue of Hela is little more than a footnote to the conversation for him. He knows much better than Thor how deceptive Odin is, and while initially he’s somewhat surprised by the reveal of Hela, he’s not bowled over in astonished shock the way Thor is. 

Loki expects Odin’s lies and is far more bewildered by Odin’s love, while Thor expects Odin’s love and is stunned by Odin’s lies. There’s something incredibly straightforward in that, expressed in each of their reactions, that really just drives home the dichotomy between Thor and Loki in general. 

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WHY DOES EVERYONE ASSUME THOR DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HE’S DOING??! He literally smiles every time someone falls for his “I’m just a dumb jock” routine. Guys, he grew up with Loki, he went to university, he’s been alive for over a millennia. His flaw in the first Thor movie was that he had too much hubris, not that he was stupid.

He knows that he can play dumb and get out of any situation. Do you all not see that sheepish smirk he always does? 

Thor: Ragnarok only confirms what the first two movies were hinting at - Thor is very intelligent and can even pull one over on Loki when he wants to. After the events in The Avengers, he knows Loki’s true feelings about him and that’s why he’s so emotional in The Dark World and why he’s always teasing him in Ragnarok.

@unstatedmartini: #i’m 200% sure that they had another game called Terribly Sorry#hey. let’s do Terribly Sorry.#no. it’s humiliating.#not for me it’s not.#*cue thor being fake-stupid and fake-clumsy and fake-drunk and real loud*#*loki following along waving his hands nervously* terribly sorry! oh dear! my brother can be such a brute! terribly sorry!#and they’re long gone before anyone realizes that the Important Magic Thingy or Super Secret Map is gone

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i know the thor fandom likes to paint loki as the bitchy fashion sibling because it’s so easy but let’s look at the FACTS here ladies….thor:

1.had a godmode reveal in his first movie that involved him transforming into a cool outfit like an anime magical girl 

2. took time to blow-dry his hair on the avengers plane while everyone was fighting each other 

3. was and continues to be the first one to call loki out on his clothing & grooming choices (”you dress like a witch” “your helmet looks like a cow” “looks a little less greasy than i remember him” etc)

4. wore that slutty poncho in the dark world for no reason 

5. the age of ultron outfit. u know the one. with the blazer…and the ponytail

6. dragged hulk’s interior decor for filth in ragnarok 

7. cried while getting a haircut like he was a 18-year-old girl receiving a traumatic makeover on america’s text top model 

thor is the fashion sibling..accept the truth 

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so I've been marathoning Thor's MCU plotline with my parents, up to GoG + Thor 2 now (I put them on in the wrong order whoops)

and that scene

that one

that one at the end where Loki and Thor are saying nice things to each other and Loki knows what's going on but Thor has no idea it's Loki he's addressing

fuck

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A Dream In Which We Utterly Failed To Recover Baldr For Bullshit Magic School Bus Reasons

Some people seem to think my dreams are funny. Here is one. It is long. Press J to skip.

I had a dream about Norse mythology that seemed rather funny after further examination. In my dream, the Norse gods were played by the actors from the gifsets, and you guys like the actors, so I thought you maybe you guys would like this dream. I have never seen a Thor Avengers movie, and I don’t even know what the actors sound like when they speak. But I’ve seen the Avengers actors in gifsets on my dash, and that was how my subconscious cast Thor and Loki. Thor was played by a big blonde Chris with arms like hams, and Loki was Tom Hiddlesworth doing his Tommy Wiseau impression. They wore perfectly normal clothes, though.

I’m also ashamed to share this in public. First because I fucked up about gallbladders, and then because I was defensive about it, and THEN I was a little shit, but oh well: you guys know me, hopefully you’ll forgive me for being an asshole in my dream.

The god Baldr was dead, as should be expected. In my dream, this meant that he had gone into Death, where he has been partying for millennia in a Very Gay Way, “breaking his mother’s heart,” leaving everyone’s messages on read, and is apparently refusing to be resurrected (my dream claimed this had always been an option for Norse gods) because he “likes the scene.” It was implied that the gods thought he was doing it to be subversive and grungy.

With the gods planning a large professional event of some kind, it was now required that Thor, in the capacity of “brother,” and Loki, in the capacity of “taking some goddamn responsibility for once,” go and get him back from Death, in order to attend the event. 

So Thor and Loki went off to Earth, which is where Death is, to fetch Baldr. They started off in a canyon in the American West, and Thor promptly confused everyone, including my subconscious, by looking for a Tube stop. He did it with such confidence, despite the dreamscape itself resisting the idea of there being a branch of the London Underground in a canyon. Everyone, including my subconscious and Loki, were very offended when he actually found one.

And then Thor produced an Oyster card, which almost broke the whole dream.

Instead of calling bullshit and leaving, my subconscious was curious and invested. So I stuck with the dream, but accidentally stopped being the narrator, and manifested in the dream as myself walking next to them.

Thor confidently boarded a carriage and pondered the Tube map with beaming benevolence.

“Are you going somewhere?” I asked, fascinated.

“Well, all of Earth is made of Ymir’s body,” said Thor, “So therefore I expect Baldr will be hanging around somewhere near the gallbladder.”

I looked at the Tube Map. The Tube Map was indeed not a map of London, but a map of a corpse of a god. Everything was nicely labeled. One stop was labeled “Giblets,” which stuck out in my mind.

So I sat next to the gods on the Tube. It was empty and pleasant.

“There’s no stop for gallbladder,” Loki pointed out after a while, in a very relatable tone.

“Oh, no,” Thor said. “Well, where are gallbladders? Normally, I mean?”

Loki stared at me pointedly.

“Er, under the liver,” I said, contributing to the conversation very much against my will.

“We’ll get off at Liver and walk,” said Thor decisively.

I was extremely alarmed by this, because this sounds so EXACTLY like the sort of thing that happens when you go to London with Other People, and then they fuck it up somehow and you end up having to get an Uber. I had forgotten that I could wake up, and became increasingly anxious that Thor was going to get us horribly lost. I worried about whether my Oyster card could take the strain.

We got off at Liver and walked. Liver appeared to be a grubby, underground version of Liverpool, which makes sense. Thor marched off confidently. Loki and I trailed behind him glumly, not looking at each other, like teenagers dragged out on an outing.

“I know EXACTLY where we are,” Thor kept saying cheerfully, darting suddenly down alleyways and then leaping out again, like Tigger. “We just need to take a left at the gallbladder.”

I began to suspect he just liked the word.

“Does he … actually … know what a gallbladder is?” I asked Loki privately.

“No,” Loki said.

Loki imparted to me wordlessly that he thought this was all some kind of bullshit Magic School Bus thing*. A product of Thor’s limited imagination. The limits of which we would quickly reach. And there will we be? he implied, wordlessly.

“Why a gallbladder?” I called to Thor. “Like, why are we going to the gallbladder in particular?”

Thor paused and the bouncy expression fell off his face. “I just thought…” he said. “I just thought.”

“Oh my God you’ve killed us all,” Loki told him.

“WE’LL BE FINE,” Thor said, automatically. And then he looked panicky and bolted off.

Loki and I huddled under a streetlight and looked around.

“Horrible things are going to start creeping out of the walls and attacking us,” Loki told me.

“Why?” I asked.

“Well, because we fucked up,” Loki said.

“You leave me out of this,” I said. “I’m just here.”

“Oh, ’mememememememe, I know where gallbladders are,’” Loki said nastily, mimicking my voice.

I felt hot and sick all over and incredibly defensive, and (I am ashamed of this) lashed right back at him. “You’re the one who killed Baldr in the first place,” I said, “And you don’t even know basic anatomy. These are called consequences.”

Loki looked incredibly hurt by all of these points. We both felt bad, and stared at the ground.

“Okay, but technically holly killed Baldr,” Loki said after a while.

“Wait - mistletoe, wasn’t it?” I said.

“Was it mistletoe?” said Loki. And then something horrible came out of the wall and killed him.

!!!!!

Loki laid there dying and yelling “I told you, I told you”

Thor came running back to us, all “Oh, I’m so sorry, I shouldn’t have left you!” and we were like “You’re sorry? YOU’RE SORRY?!” and, not missing the opportunity to be little shits and twist the knife, even though a god was actually dying, we wailed together with our largest most betrayed eyes, “WE FOLLOWED YOU!” 

because oh my god he killed us all and he needed to feel like shit for it.

and I was so pissed off and scared and upset that I realized I could wake up, so I did. In the transitional period, I was anxious that I had left them to a horrible fate, but then I decided that they “did this kind of thing all the time” and they would be all right.

* The note I made to remember the dream after waking up was “some kind of bullshit Magic School Bus thing,” and I thought that was the best part of the whole thing.

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So at first I was a little ??? about Hela being Thor’s sister in Ragnarok (squeezing her into the role Angela so recently acquired as their long-lost-big-sister in comics), but the more I think about it, the more I like what it does for Thor and Loki’s arc. 

Thor now has two siblings who became his antagonists because of his father keeping secrets – hiding Loki’s heritage, and then hiding Hela’s existence. Which re-enforces how damaging that habit of lying and secrecy is to Asgard’s growth, as represented by Thor. Having those secrets come out and be faced is necessary for Thor’s development and maturity – confronting the sins of his father.

And for Loki – when Loki tries and fails to be a hero, he becomes a villain. He always measures himself against Thor, and then casts himself as Thor’s opposite. But with Hela showing up, suddenly the role of bad guy has been usurped by another sibling; he’s no longer the baddest Asgardian, or even the baddest of Odin’s kids. His sins are now in a whole new context, where his misdeeds are frankly small potatoes. He’s not only been outstripped as a hero by his sibling – he’s been outstripped as a villain. And that forces him to find some other measure of identity; not wholly good, not wholly evil, but something in between – something new

Also, it re-enforces their brotherhood in an interesting way. Hela is Asgardian. Hela is Thor’s blood sibling (or at least half-sibling). And Hela is still awful. In that light, Loki can no longer ascribe his wickedness to his heritage – he isn’t evil because of some innate genetic factor, or because he isn’t Asgardian, since Hela is clearly capable of that evil despite being raised on Asgard and having Odin’s genes. And while Hela and Thor share blood, they have no kinship to speak of. Thor and Loki do, despite the lack of blood relation. They snipe and bicker like brothers throughout, and there are callbacks to their childhood and past together (the snake story, ‘get help’). 

Hela’s appearance as Thor’s sister lends new context to both Thor and Loki’s relationship with each other and their family, and I think it gives us, as fandom, a lot of fresh material to play with as far as our boys’ character growth moving forward.

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