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how do you think making something have sburb in the first place makes it less homestuck plot related than having a first guardian along with it…
Because first guardians are a creation specific to the green sun/paradox space, whereas as far as we’ve seen so far, SBURB is its own entity that can exist independently from anything that happens in the story of Homestuck
It’s a fully functioning game and a system with it’s own rules that are a broken a lot in Homestuck, and also Homestuck has its own stuff going on that changes the way SBURB is played that’s only relevant to the characters in Homestuck, first guardians being one of those.
I want to take the pieces of SBURB, untangle them from Homestuck’s plot and see what the fully functioning system looks like when it runs independently or on its own, away from any influence changing how it runs on its vanilla system so to speak
and I want to do that because reasons and SBURB is interesting to me lol :p
gotcha
i just really disagree on how much 'overall sburb' would be disconnected from the events of homestuck? it's sorta like... alternia no-sgrub aus, except alternia itself with its social order was made what it is because of sburb and unless you specifically replace that influence what you should get without sgrub is beforus? but people just go 'fuck it' and take alternia as is and ignore logic because it's just more fun
there are no first-guardian-less sburb instances that we know of just like there's no sgrub-less alternia in the homestuck multiverse and it's okay if you make them up but that's... not... canon?
in canon, yes, the kids played part in setting up the very setting that sburb offers for all sessions there ever were. yes theirs is a very unusual session, sburb-wide unusual
pretending it's all confined to a 'local' group of universes and there is sburb beyond that seems both disingenious and kinda... belittling of the plot, to me? yes it's grand, it's that grand. i don't particularly subscribe to bkew's green sun theory (as in, i actually think it's bullshit at this point and the theory doesn't have a leg to stand on this close to the ending) but the entirety of paradox space being created/destroyed as part of the plot? the entirety of the multiverse governed by sburb? that doesn't sound implausible to me
artificially separating sburb as a game from green sun and first guardians just sounds really fanon to me. not canon. we don't have a canon confirmation that it's possible for a planet with intelligent life destined to play sburb to NOT have a first guardian. we don't have a canon confirmation that there are universes not affected by green sun and i think occam's razor and taking canon at face value thus dictates there aren't any
idk if you are coming up with your own alternate sburb that doesn't have green sun and first guardians and whatever i'm not going to stop you but don't say it's canon because it's not