This set has been bothering me for a while, and I don’t remember if I’ve ever reblogged this before, but I’d like to give some notes on it. I’ll try to go more or less gif by gif. And before you start, yes, I know that this is staged and dramatized, but it’s trying to make a point, and therefore critiqing it is totally valid.
1-2) The first 2 gifs are…kinda valid, depending on context. The professor’s argument is, because a text mentions love more than it mentions hate, it must advocate love. But this is not necessarily true, because a text could be written in such a way that makes the “hate” more valid than the “love” portions, such as making all mentions of love ironic. As it applies to his broader argument, he is making the assertion that “Islam” and the Quran are synonymous: because the Quran advocates love, Islam and Islamic people must advocate love. But this relies on the idea that all Muslims put equal weight behind every passage in the Quran, which is certainly not how all Christians treat the Bible.
3) This bitch has no idea what she’s talking about.
4) But neither does the professor, apparently. He completely avoids the “war” question and focuses entirely on the “terrorism” question. He then fails to actually define the term “terrorism” and behaves as if merely asking for a definition is making a point. We are now also a few giant leaps away from the original purpose of this discussion. Somehow the conversation switched from answering the question “Is Islam a violent religion” to “Were America’s actions in Iraq and Afghanistan justfied”, which are completely different questions. Neither the professor, the girl, or the guy who jumps in are doing a very good job of debating.
5) “Spread democracy” and “get oil” are both ridiculous propositions, just on opposite sides of the political spectrum. The war in Afghanistan was to dismantle al-Qaeda, and the war in Iraq was to remove Saddam Hussein from power because of the WMDs he possessed. There are plenty of legitimate, weighty arguments to be made against the justification of both wars, but “blood for oil” is one of the laziest and most absurd, just as “spreading democracy” is a lazy and absurd take on those wars.
6) This dude is now completely off-topic, and also refuses to define his terms.
7-8) The question of 9/11 being justified not only has absolutely nothing to do with the original question, but the guy responding to her fails even to answer that. The argument is, because subject killed more people than another subject, that makes the former a terrorist. There is absolutely no logic behind this claim and the link between body count and the definition of terrorism is never made, only hinted at, which, in non-academic terms, is bullshit.
9) If the girl were smart, she would have mentioned that the Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists, which would actually get the discussion back on point. But she doesn’t, so now we get a bullshit history lesson. The CIA did not create the Taliban, Pakistan did. The CIA funded and trained them (allegedly, but the evidence is pretty solid).
10) And to close, another assertion which is not argued for with sufficient evidence nor answers the original question at hand.
So to summarize, if you saw this gifset and thought “Wow, what a smart argument!”, you’ve never heard a smart argument in your life.