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Translation blog dedicated to Tokyo Ghoul and Jack Jeanne. NOT SPOILER FREE.
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Jack Jeanne Character Profiles

Tachibana Kisa

Starting from today I’ll be a student at Univers Revue Academy.

Main character / Last name is unchangeable

The main character of this game who has enrolled at the Univers Revue Academy hiding that she is a woman. Her older brother is the super talented actor Tachibana Tsuki.

She is keeping to herself the fact that she has the potential to play both the male role Jack and the female role Jeanne.

To fulfill her dreams and to become the top of the Quartz class, she will have to stand on stage as a cog that will move people’s hearts.

Takashina Sarafumi (Fumi)

Hah, just follow me wouldya? I’ll show you what it means to be Arjeanne.

With his innate glamour and dancing abilities, Fumi is an influential member of the Quartz class who was appointed as Arjeanne, the lead acting role of the Jeanne female roles.

He hates formalities and is always laid back, but has a sharp intuition and is good at assessing people.

In his first year, Fumi was paired with the legendary star of Univers, Tachibana Tsuki, and shone on stage with him. However it has now cast a shadow over his mind.

[T/N: Arjeanne is based off of the Queen of Clubs, which is named Argine (an anagram of Regina).]

Mutsumi Kai

Getting a role means there’s something you’re seeking.

Appointed as Jack Ace, the lead acting role of the Jack male roles, he is working together with the glamorous Takashina Sarafumi as his support.

He likes spending his time alone quietly, but he always pays attention to the Quartz class, and is kind enough to help the students.

He seems to always be thinking about what he can do for others as Jack Ace.

Neji Kokuto

Hey, you’re pretty amazing!? You’re full of new options and possibilities!

The team leader of the Quartz class. Not only can he play both the male Jack and female Jeanne roles, he is a talented individual with a wide range of skills from script-writing for Quartz to directing the shows.

With his eccentric nature, there have been many instances where he nudges and drags Quartz’s students in to create the best plays possible.

Somehow seeing him release his talent in such a free manner makes it seem like he’s in some kind of hurry.

Shirota Mitsuki

They told me I’d only need to go through one year of training. Ugh, why me...

The diva of Quartz, with a girlish appearance and a high level of singing ability, who plays the female role Jeanne.

Though he is weak when it comes to acting and dancing, he never slacks off when it comes to singing, which is his weapon.

Mitsuki doesn’t try to show any interest in others on an individual basis, but he can perfectly point everyone out.

As a second year, how will he get involved with the first years?

Orimaki Suzu

If the actor changes even for the same role, it can look completely different. It's fascinating...but terrifying at the same time.

With his striking brightness that catches people's eyes, he plays the male role Jack and is in the same year as the main character.

He looks up to the legendary Jack Ace, Tachibana Tsuki, and so he enrolled at the Univers Revue Academy.

He is the life of the class and can talk to anyone without any fear.

He may give off a clumsy side, but he struggles daily to become a Jack Ace like Tachibana Tsuki.

Yonaga Soushirou

I'll help you out with your school life at Univers Academy! If you have any problems, tell me anytime.

He is in the same year as the main character. Though he enrolled because he wanted to have a male Jack role, he was named as a female Jeanne role.

He is childhood friends with the main character. When he was little, he played theatre together with the main character’s older brother Tachibana Tsuki.

He knows the main character’s circumstances of how she entered Univers, and knows that she is a woman.

He feels strongly about theatre, but he cannot express himself well and often worries about being overshadowed by the main character.

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Please be careful when buying official TG merch from unofficial sellers!

I’ve seen posts on IG and Ebay of people selling fake TG merch passing them off as official such as: (X)

and (X):

Many of the illustrations shown in the 1st screenshot were never made into illustration cards. For example, the 4th illustration (of Kaneki being caressed by a hand) was only made into a clear file folder. Some of the Twitter illustrations such as the Arima/Kaneki card on the top row and Kaneki on the bottom left were indeed made into illustration cards as bonuses for :re volume 12, but they were only available as holographic cards.

The Natsucomi badges shown are also fake with over-cropped images and off-centre placement. The real ones (which I own) should look like this:

I don’t even know what to say about the ones sold on Ebay, because the seller straight up ripped the illustration straight from the magazine without even removing all the magazine text, and the Seidou/Haise art has never been made into an illustration card. Along with somehow claiming that a card that was supposedly sold at Jump Festa is from Sanyodo (one of the bookstores that carries TG bonus illustrations when they’re available).

Once again, please be careful and do your research before buying from unofficial sources!

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Hairu and Furuta

It’s especially poignant that Ishida chose to draw Furuta and Hairu together, the day that Hairu’s death airs in the anime and the week of Furuta’s death. As these two characters are meant to reflect extremely divergent choices a garden child could have made. 

I’m seeing a lot of if only Furuta decided to pursue a normal life like he wanted to, or if only Furuta had moved on and found somebody else to love and while yes a tragedy is supposed to make you think that way, I want to illustrate in the following post that it’s not really that black and white. As the story has already given us an example of somebody who tried to just live for love within the system and do their best to live for their simple desire to be loved and loved in return in their short lifespan. 

Unlike Furuta who is nihilistic, and only laughing in a sardonic sense at the tragedy of his life, Hairu is genuinely cheerful, kind to others and even forms bonds with people outside of the garden. She’s on friendly terms with Fura, and has a strong bond with Ui. She even was close to Okahira to an extent. 

Unlike Furuta also, Hairu is incredibly clear about what her desire is. She’s straightforward and lives her life for that simple desire. To be validated by Arima’s praise because he was the only person who showed her kindness in her childhood. 

Hairu in every sense of the word, was trying to live the best out of what a garden child was given in life. She was a Furuta who understood that she was going to die soon, and instead of rebelling against the world instead to choose to live for her own small personal happiness and live out the best of a bad situation.

“Isn’t this great? We have tons of things to do. It really does fit us better to be holding quinques instead of pencils and scissors, don’t you think? But if you don’t wanna, I’ll just go by myself,” Hairu said and headed toward the venue’s exit.
I have to hurry.
So she could be praised by Arima.
Because we don’t live long.
Whatever reason they had been created for, why they had such a fate imposed on them, none of it mattered. As long as she could get that hand to gently stroke her head again, just like when she was little.
Ui let out a loud sigh behind Hairu, but he quickly raised his head and passed by her.
Translation by @kenkamishiro [x]

Even following that path, and living for that simple happiness though Hairu still killed a ton of ghouls. She still had no scruples at all about using torture to produce results when it came to killing ghouls. 

She still delighted in doing it, and learned to enjoy it to an extent. Treating her fight with Matsumae like a game when Matsumae was only fighting to protect her younger brother figure and family, and making this face at the opportunity to kill more ghouls. 

And still in choosing to acknowledge and live for that simple desire, Hairu’s path led her to die one of the most brutal death’s possible in the series. 

I’m not saying Hairu is a bad person for making these choices though, but rather what makes Hairu fascinating as a character is the choices she made, and the results we see from them. There was no perfect way to handle the garden even for a bubbly bright person like Hairu. 

So, for all the people trying to read Furuta in the most reductive way possible and suggest there was some kind of healthy way for him to deal with the fact that he was born to die in a pointless war against ghouls conducted to keep the head of his family fed, and that even being born and raised as a child soldier he was going to die young in that war regardless even if he was the strongest of all the child soldeier’s, I would like to point out that Hairu already exists in the story as an alternative path that Furuta could have taken.

So yes, Furuta did not need to destroy everything, but neither did Eto, neither did Arima. Their characters are compelling to us because of the choices we see them make in a limited situation. To understand Arima is to understand that as common sense as saying “Arima should have just stood up to V instead of pretending to be on V’s side, killing a bunch of ghouls and make his final act being a martyr since he was so powerful and all” is, there are just as many reasons why it couldn’t be that simple for Arima. Why he couldn’t just stand up and go on the right side of the war, because he saw all killing as bad and wanted to make something with his final action. It’s compelling to see the choice he made, when his choices were extremely narrowed by circumstances.

I bring up Arima and Hairu because I don’t see this kind of criticism for these characters. “Arima should have just done x, the reason he did y is just because he’s a terrible and petty person.” or “Hairu should have just done x, the fact that she just kept projecting her desires onto Arima makes her a bad person.” Yes, I realize that Furuta is more tied to ideas of toxic masculinity than either of those characters and it’s more blatant in him, but also that same idea of wanting to destroy everything to spite the world you were born into is represented in both Arima and Eto, and that same idea of projecting a desire of the love you were denied in childhood onto somebody who doesn’t return it is represented in characters like Hairu and Karren.

Those characters are allowed to have nuance, whereas Furuta tends to be read reductively even though way more screentime and range is shown with Furuta as he is the final and ultimate antagonist of the series. So, let me once again show you that there is more than one way to read a scene with Furuta’s final death flashback. 

In order, we receive a flashback about how Furuta realized he was going to die young. 

Then, later on Furuta refreshes us on this flashback confirming what many read as this being the moment Furuta decided on his path.

The flashbacks we are shown all affirm the point that Furuta was very much aware his whole life that his choices were limited, he had a limited timeframe, and a limited place of belonging because no matter what he did he would still be born at the bottom of the Washuu totem pole.

So, Furuta’s final death flashback. A lot of people have been interpreting this as him still clinging to his childhood dream of marrying Rize, and his fatal flaw. If he had just found somebody who returned his love like Kaneki, then somehow that would have fixed everything. However once again this reading is missing out on the nuance. I myself read this flashback as taking place before this scene specifically, before he started training hard with the Washuu. 

He seemed like a timid sort of boy that kind that’d play with flowers with the daughters. 

We’re given a hint that Furuta at one point just played around with the daughters, and specifically with Rize all day. Then he became much more focused on learning to fight and get stronger. Much earlier we’re also shown a flashback where Furuta asks Rize if she was bred.

We’re told this story out of order so this is my best attempt to cobble this order together. First, Furuta and Rize are childhood friends living in blissful ignorance of the garden.

Then, Furuta finds out that he’s bred and asks Rize if she’s the same. Then at some point he invesetigates on his own the family tree of the Washuu and realizes they are going to die young, probably earlier then he was meant to learn that news.

Then in that moment decides to destroy the Washuu that created him, and the world that created him. Why I clarified this order is because in the final flashback Furuta says this.

A lot of people have chosen to read this scene in the sense of “We’ll get married and have grandchildren.” However, the language Furuta uses is Oba-can and Oba-san, which just means old man and old lady. You can call a random old lady on the street who has no grandchildren “Oba-chan” it doens’t necessarily carry that connotation. 

That, and the fact that everything up until this point has specifically been about the fact that garden children literally cannot age that long, that Furuta was never going to become an old man seems to support the interpretation that this playing around took place before Furuta hit that realization. That at one point before Furuta was told that he was going to die ¼ of the age of a normal human, he really was just a normal kid who was playing around in the garden with Rize and commented that he hopes even when they grow up that they’ll still get to play around like this.

And Rize’s response is “I don’t want to get old” in the sense of “I don’t want to grow up. Then, what Furuta reassures her with is “It’ll still be fun, even when we grow up.”

That’s the tragedy of this flashback specifically. It shows that at some point Furuta was not the twisted manchild we know him to be today. That at some point he really was just a kid that wanted to grow up, and was even looking forward to it. Before he was told that was literally not an option, that he was just going to die before ever getting the chance to grow up.

Furuta thought he left that kid behind. That he was no longer that kid. That he divorced from that part of himself, and that those desires meant nothing in the end because he was going to die regardless. 

In his final moments though he comes to peace with that kid. He accepts that there was a point where he too wanted to be happy, where he too wanted to grow up. He sees himself as a human being finally, and not a nihilistic agent of destruction who only existed to be the reckoning of the Washuu. 

In other words he steps out of the role as villain he painted himself in the whole series and accepts his own humanity, in a final moment of comfort before death. 

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I thought this was a decent question to ask, so I thought I would answer in a way that is easily seen by everyone. I hope you don’t mind, @maschera412. But like I said, it’s a good question that deserved an answer! 

Ishida does have a tumblr here, though he doesn’t update it very often. His latest work is always posted to his twitter, and that is typically where fans see it. From there, people typically will post the image here on tumblr…..

But here’s the key point:

They typically link back to Ishida’s original post on twitter. 

It’s usually a HEY OMG SENSEI POSTED SOMETHING NEW ON TWITTER YAY. 

People also try to reblog from his tumblr, when and if he posts something there. 

For the record, here are his accounts for anyone that is curious:

He seems to have removed his Pixv account.

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If possible, can you reblog with your responses because I think this is a good conversation. Stuff tends to get lost within the Replies, so people may or may not be able to see and keep up. 

Now on to your comment. I never said anything about “well he doesn’t update it so it’s okay lol”. I stated that he rarely posts the work straight to his Tumblr account, so any current work cannot simply be reblogged from that account. Therefore, people have to repost with a link back to his twitter post. There is no theft involved, because Ishida is being given credit and his original post is being shared. 

As Coor mentioned, there’s also a difference in terms of Ishida’s work vs a non-professional fan artist. Ishida makes these works as advertisements for his brand, to stir up interest in Tokyo Ghoul. The point is to excite his readers, and to get them to purchase his work. No one is claiming to have done it themselves, and people know it’s Ishida even without having to be told. But it’s still always a good idea to share a link to his original post, so people can appreciate it and give it likes/shares on Twitter. 

The issue with Chibi isn’t this single incident. It is an ongoing pattern of behavior going back years, with numerous content creators being stolen from. He takes art without permission and uses it as he pleases. He also steals meta and from others, without citing them or giving them any credit for their work translating, researching, and writing. He does this WHILE MAKING MONEY from their work. He refuses to acknowledge the creators he rips off, and we’ve lost numerous artists, translators, and meta writers from the fandom as a DIRECT RESULT of his actions. 

People are hurt by his selfish actions. He doesn’t care, and instead frames himself as the victim or laughs it off. He encourages a practice that drives away creators, and in some cases can actually get creators IN TROUBLE or losing a source of income. He’s hurting other creators, while profiting off their work. 

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For all we know, the reason Ishida doesn’t update his tumblr could be because he kept seeing his fans immediately reposting everything he tweeted. Also, @coromoor if edits, art and gif bring popularity to Ishida, then why can’t we assume the same thing about Zency. Personally, I’ve never heard about that artist before. And now I do. Free advertising. I understand your friend was vocal about their feelings but Ishida wasn’t. Again, it is wrong to repost his art just because he hasn’t said not…

The primary difference is that Ishida is a professional advertising his product and has already gotten paid for it, versus Zency and other creators who are not professionals and could be legally or financially hurt by this kind of thing.

Ishida is very active in engaging with the fandom, and encourages people sharing his stuff. The only line he’s drawn concerns posting spoilers that the Japanese fandom can see. 

As I said, it’s ALWAYS a good practice to link back to Ishida’s original post on twitter. That way, anyone with a twitter account can give him the likes and retweets for his awesome work. 

But he does on rare occasion respond to fans sharing his stuff here, usually with something as subtle as a “Like” on the post. 

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i hate reblogs but whatever

i do not feel like talking much. you say one thing, i comment, you say the same thing. there is no dialogue

i honestly do not remember Ishida saying that he “encourages people sharing his stuff”. I mean if you saw him liking reposted art then okay i guess.

just one last thing - Zency cannot be “legally or financially hurt” in this situation. Again, it was a Furuta gif. LEGALLY Zency cannot make any PROFIT from it. So Zency is safe. hooray! FYI companies like Marvel can actually sue Zency if Zency were to make profit from that gif.

Thanks for reblogging, I appreciate you doing so as opposed to just posting a reply. 

I suppose I have kind of repeated myself a little, and I apologize if I’ve made you feel like you’re not being heard or being brushed aside. 

The lines between official creators and hobby/fan creators, and the complicated mess of copyright laws can make it a weird subject to discuss. People can disagree on the exact line of what is and isn’t acceptable. 

In general, the rule of thumb is that official creators have greater ability to enforce their wishes than fan creators do. Ishida himself started out the same as any fan artist, drawing stuff on Pixv and sharing it around. He’s made some vague comments in the past indicating that he doesn’t mind the scanlations of his work. Because he is a published creator, he can only say so much without running into trouble with Shueisha, which raises the other big difference. Shueisha is a major company with lawyers that can issue Takedown Notices or other legal enforcement as necessary. 

In comparison, the average hobby artist (like Zency) is completely on their own when it comes to their work. The reason people are so frustrated is not about Zency in particular, but that this keeps happening to creators in the fandom. Chibi continues to do so, even when he’s been called out on it numerous times. Every single time, he reacts exactly as he did this time and he learns nothing.

And as someone with a following, he has the ability to influence people. His actions are feeding into a larger problem in fandom as a whole, that has in particular driven a really big conflict between Western and Eastern fans in particular. And it is one that spans from just him using a gif without permission to companies like Hot Topic taking an artist’s work and printing it on t-shirts to sell, without giving credit or getting permission. 

It’s a wide-spread issue, and he keeps refusing to learn from his mistakes. People are frustrated with this happening over and over, and annoyed when our friends stop sharing their creations. People I personally know and respect a lot have been burned by Chibi’s theft, and stopped sharing their artwork, translations, and research with the fandom. That is a loss for everyone in the fandom, and it’s shameless that he refuses to learn or change his behavior.

He could do SO MUCH to help stem this issue. But he refuses to do so, and instead frames himself as a victim when people rightfully call him out for taking their work. 

It’s not cool. :/ 

TLDR: 

Ishida is backed by Shueisha, a large company with a team of lawyers. If for example Chibi used something in a video he didn’t want used, Ishida can have his publisher take action. 

In comparison, hobby creators have little recourse. They have spoken to Chibi about taking their work without credit, and been insulted or ignored. They do not have a legal team there to assist them, and know that Chibi’s video using their work is making him money. It’s insulting to them. So, because they have no recourse, they have to either just…..accept that people don’t care, or they have to stop sharing. 

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I am happy I'm not the only one who noticed Kaneki "I did it for everyone" was him lying to himself. Hopefully "Rize" will confront him about it next chapter. And hopefully also abt the fact he has been Killing ghouls since part 1 and so that he has been a murderer for a while now. We'll see. I love your blog and you are Always very kind!

YES EXACTLY ANON! I mean, first of all thank you so much for the nice words, you’re adorable kajebkjbe

the term “murderer” indeed could have been used a while ago already to define him, since he used to kill ghouls and even eat them. 

I mean, in this manga everyone (except for Yoriko) did morally reprehensive stuff, so it’s not that Kaneki has to take it harder upon himself or that he’s worse than other characters, but all in all, it’s as @randomthoughtpatterns​ explained here: so far apparently, only humans are “people” for Kaneki, he doesn’t see ghouls as their equal, which is why he never used to see himself as a murderer, that is until he started killing humans in ch144. 

So I really hope “Rize” will call him out on this big hypocrisy of his (or maybe it will be for a later character development and he’ll hate himself for killing humans first until he realizes it’s way too hypocritical?), because it’s highly passed the time for Kaneki to start considering humans and ghouls as equal, especially since he is in love with a ghoul + he’s supposed to help bringing coexistence. 

The biggest irony of it all is that, on this aspect just like on many others, he and Touka are a set too, since even as a ghoul Touka has the mentality that her species is worth less than humankind:

And Dragoneki’s rampage is definitely not helping this mentality…

So, whether this important realization is for next week or slightly later, I hope one day Kaneki & Touka (as well as Amon and a few others) will understand that…

…this world only has a future if they stop lying to themselves about one species being better than another (which is overall illustrated by Touka expecting their hybrid baby in a world that currently holds no chance of a happy future for it).

So I love that there is a strong connotation behind “Rize” calling Kaneki by a term that defines him but that no one ever used to refer to him before…

and I’m hoping that this will be because he realized he’s been a murderer for a while now, since he had no mercy for ghouls either at some earlier point in the story.

But yeah, we’ll see next week. Thank you again so much for the nice words Anon

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yeS VERY GOOD ANON A+ REALIZATION!

I mean, I love Kaneki & Touka and I love that they’re in love with each other, but my babies, at some point you gotta face the irony and hypocrisy on which your relationship and hope for the future currently rest. 

I actually do not think that Kaneki & Touka hate the ghoul species or anything but…

they were respectively Goat’s first and second leader and they are a set there too, in the fact that neither cared about what Goat was supposed to be fighting for. And yet, as you pointed out, since they both started to grow closer to each other because of this moment…

it’s not like we are not already sure that they will get there eventually.

It’s even more certain since, again, Touka is pregnant with their hybrid baby and the world as it currently is holds no place for it. So it’s always been my belief that both of them would need to realize that they should start considering truly fighting for coexistence and equality between humankind and ghoulkind, since their baby’s future is at stake in this situation too. 

Before they get there though, Kaneki has to realize that he didn’t just become a murderer and Touka has to find a way to confront all that she has to confront (her dad, Yoriko…), before she can move on from the idea that it’s natural for ghouls to matter less than humans. 

The thing is, we know it’s coming, we know it could happen next week for Kaneki, since Rize is the first ghoul he “killed”…

so it’s making me very excited while still being slightly afraid that Sensei will delay it for a little while longer, because he will want Kaneki and Touka to come to this realization together at the same time (and I don’t mind either way, but… #character development is sooooo interesting).

Thanks for your sharing thoughts Anon! Have a nice day :))

Hi Anon! Actually I’m not sure there is a need to try and justify Kaneki’s current bias towards ghouls, I mean…

  • he was a human who barely thought ghouls existed until he was a college student
  • then Kanou, Rize and Furuta happened but TG part 1 barely lasted a year
  • finally he became Sasaki Haise, a ghoul investigator for something like three years before he remembered all of TG part 1

So in the end, it’s not so surprising that he has trouble fully realizing that humans and ghouls are on the same level. In fact, ironically enough, it’s something that he tackled rather well from early on in TG…

since he even went as far as to take a bite of Amon to win against him and help Touka & Hina. So when Kaneki told Touka that he would be sad should she die, it was during a time he walked on a good path, but then Aogiri happened and well, it fucked him up.

Anon above is right, Kaneki and Touka are in love with each other right now because Kaneki saw Touka’s life as valuable back then, not because she was a ghoul or a human, but because he got close to her as a person, which is why his romantic feelings for her currently don’t particularly encompass her nature of ghoul but just who she is as a living person. 

That’s also why everything is currently so ironic: if Aogiri hadn’t happened, maybe Kaneki would have realized way earlier that ghouls and humans were to be seen as equal and would have had way less trouble taking on the role of the OEK, but hey, Sensei wanted TG to be tragic which is why we are where we are in :Re.

Thanks for passing by Anon, have a nice day!

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Anonymous asked:

What do you think about the power scaling in the manga? In the beginning ghouls like Rize and Yamori were monsters, Arima was basically a god. Now we have a huge kagune monster destroying Tokyo. Sure, we knew this was possible because of Ayato's journey, but all of this happened too late in the series. I think we should've gotten some hints earlier, so stuff like this and Tatara's fire kakuja don't seem so absurd. Humans seem to know so little about ghouls, it kinda bothers me.

Power scaling basically went out the window when Urie defeated Roma, despite basically losing to Donato earlier in the exact same circumstances. Even though Roma’s technically a much much stronger ghoul.

You don’t need to reply to this with several reasons why Urie totally could have beaten Roma though and how it totally makes sense though because that’s not really the purpose. 

This isn’t really a fighting manga where the power levels are meant to be cool. Every character that has sought strength as a part of their character arc has regretted it later. I think it’s important to remember that in those scenes the characters don’t accomplish what they wanted through physical strength. Urie’s goal wasn’t to defeat Roma, it was to save Kuroiwa, but Urie totally failed in that regard even after receiving a power up and while Kuroiwa was literally in his arms.

All Urie had to do was pay attention to his environment like Furuta warned him to and he failed in that regard.

Characters like Mutsuki, Urie and Kaneki who seek strength as a means of self improvement never succeed. That is kind of the point, Kaneki literally becomes the strongest ghoul in the whole of Tokyo and he still can’t accomplish his desire to protect everyone.

All of the problems we thought were holding Kaneki back before, his uncontrollable Kakuja, his suicidal nature holding him back, his lack of understanding on how to use the power of kagune, they’ve all been resolved at this point.Yet…

That’s why the next chapter went so far as to create a shonen tourmanet parody arc of this whole scene.

That is essentially the point of this whole scene Kaneki’s the strongest now so he should get what he wants and win, if that’s the conclusion you reach you’re reading the manga wrong. Yes, it would be nice if the power scaling was more consistent, but thematically it works to make the powers so ridiculous now because it makes a point that fighting itself is pointless.

The fact that no one side could handle the Dragon by their own is part of what establishes how pointless the fighting and trying to gain strength for the sake of protecting others on each side really was. 

I think it’s also important to remember not only were Rize and Yamori strong but they were also people you did not want to be. What they did to get that power made them horrible people, but Kaneki failed to grasp that in the end because he only saw their power as a means of accomplishing what he wanted. In other words Kaneki needed to read more Medaka Box. 

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Anonymous asked:

Wait, what connection do touka and shinohara have for her to take flowers to him im confused..?

They’re actually quite well connected- not personally but technically, they go way back. 

Touka served Shinohara before the 20th Ward raid when he visited Anteiku to ask about Kaneki

“Have we met before?”

Well, kind of. There’s a reason he recognised her

Shinohara, along with Mado, were in charge of the Corpse Collector Investigation. They were directly responsible for hunting down Arata and sending the CCG against Touka and Ayato as children. And of course, Shinohara was also a wearer of the Arata armour.

Ghoul Investigators snooping around Anteiku right before the raid would have been something that stuck out for Touka. He pretty much lost his life in that battle, where he fought Yoshimura (Touka’s father figure) wearing Arata (Touka’s actual father)… so even if Touka doesn’t know just how far their history together goes, there’s a lot of connection within the story.

As for why Touka took him flowers, we can’t be 100% sure.

But ever since murdering Mado, and certainly after the Anteiku Raid too, Touka has made a huge effort to let go of any feelings of vengeance. To let go of the anger she held in the past which had always weighed her down. 

It was something she tried to teach Akira too, because she had already been through this. 

So I’d like to think her leaving flowers for Shinohara was her own way of letting go of leftover hurt from the Anteiku Raid. A gesture of peace, maybe forgiveness, to someone who had also lost something on that day. But we’ll see! I’m curious to know if we’ll find out more.

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I’ll just copy and paste the comment (read: essay) I wrote on Reddit regarding the Barnes and Nobles interview with the Viz editor for Tokyo Ghoul:

I hate to admit it, but this entire article leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

There is nothing wrong with the article and the interviewer herself, other than that the opening image for the article is not official art and is most likely from some artist on Pixiv. But that's not the reason why I'm pissed. I got the impression from this article that despite having edited the series for two years, the editor, Enos, doesn't really understand the story of TG, and doesn't care for it. And I'm pissed because Tokyo Ghoul didn't get the English translation it should have deserved.

In Enos's words, being an editor means that you have to "think about the audience", and "think about how it will be perceived". Yet there are multiple errors in the English translation. I'm not even talking about grammar or spelling mistakes, weird phrasing (like 'nip in the bud' or 'rubbing') or even the fact that Ui was mistaken for a girl. I'm talking about consistency errors that impact the reader's ability to understand the story. For example, special TG-related terms will be written in both the localized and transliterated version (examples include 'Sekigan' and 'One-Eyed', and 'Maen' and 'Devil Ape') in the same volume alone. They are the same thing, yet non-Japanese readers would never know, and the change of terminology would only serve to confuse them when there are terms like 'One-Eyed Ghoul', 'One-Eyed King', and 'One-Eyed Owl'. If Enos had thought of the audience like he has claimed, he would have questioned the Japanese terms and eventually realize that they could easily be written localized.

There were other assumptions about the story that Enos made that made it seem like he didn't understand the story. I'm not even gonna address his comments about assuming TG was a zombie story and his comparison of TG to Spiderman because of the teen angst (...really though?) because those are somewhat fair assumptions to make at the beginning, however odd they are. For example, the interviewer mentioned how it seemed like Ishida had planned out the whole story and had dropped hints starting from the beginning. Enos could have hinted that it was Souta and the Clowns that had caused misfortune for Kaneki, or that Kaneki's beloved author was the One-Eyed Owl, etc. But all he had to talk about were simple points about ghoul biology that don't have much to do with the mysteries in the plot. In addition, what bothered me the most was his comments on the last three volumes of the series. He said that those volumes were "pretty much pure, all-out, bone-crunching gross", but those three volumes were about the Anteiku Raid and the build-up leading to it. If all he got out of the despair of the Anteiku raid, Touka breaking down from losing the people she loves once again, Juuzou accepting Shinohara's love when it was too late, the entire V14 scene and the 'death' of the protagonist was that it was "gross", it seriously makes me question whether he even understood what he was editing, or if he even bothered to read through the entire thing.

Another thing Enos said that annoyed me was how surprised he was to see TG cosplay everywhere after the first three TG volumes were released, and how popular it was, because his words made it seem like it was the manga volumes that he worked on that led to the popularity of TG he saw at conventions. Yet if he had done even a little bit of research, he would have known that TG had come into popularity in the West because of the anime. Tokyo Ghoul being on the New York Times bestsellers list for manga was not because of himself and the Viz team, it was because of the anime, and him implying that he was responsible for the English manga's success despite his subpar editing is ridiculous.

It's disappointing that despite how popular of a series Tokyo Ghoul is, Viz couldn't be bothered to have more than three people, with no proofreader and one of the staff being a less-than-stellar editor working on the series despite lesson-known series having at least five people working on them. I'm worried for :re's translation if Viz keeps the same number of people, because there will be mistakes once again like the ones we saw in the original TG. Please Viz, please, hire a proofreader and get a better editor...

Edit: Added in some more points and fixed some grammar.

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Touka’s suicidal ideation in TG

While one of the most important plot points in TG/TG:RE revolve around Kaneki’s suicidal desires and his depression – We have never seen anyone discuss Touka’s. In this fandom, Touka’s motivations are often under-analyzed, and quite a bit about her nature and personality is missed because of this.

While Touka is a character who is quite strong and decisive, she is also a character who is deathly afraid of being alone.

From a young age, Touka has lost most of the people in her life who she cared about. First her mother, then her father, who left home and never returned. From that point, she was forced to grow up quickly in order to care of both herself and her brother. Then, after finding a new family in anteiku, Touka loses her brother after he abandons her to join aogiri.

Losing loved ones – either to death or abandonment creates an intense pain within Touka, to the point that she is willing to throw her life away in order to quell it. We see our first glimpse of this after Ryouko is killed by the CCG. When she first learns of her death, Touka immediately wants revenge, even at the risk of her own life and the others at anteiku.

At this time, the pain of losing a loved one is so much that she can’t move on. She can’t move past this without trying to get revenge for Ryouko, even after being forbidden, she still makes her move. Later, in her conversation with Kaneki, we learn more about her motivation to put herself at such great risk.

Touka explains that she can’t stand the idea of kind ghouls like Ryouko or Hinami are killed without remorse or hesitation, but she also says something interesting here. “It’d be a better for a murderer like me to die.” While Touka is not actively trying to get herself killed, she also doesn’t seem to mind if she dies. She has a negative view of herself, calling herself a murderer and putting herself down. If it’s for the sake of protecting loved ones or avenging murdered loved ones, she would gladly die.

We next see this reckless nature when Kaneki is taken by aogiri.

Touka is willing to go into aogiri alone to try to get Kaneki back. Doing so would effectively be a suicide mission, but she doesn’t care – getting Kaneki back is more important than her own life. Not losing another person is more important to her, even if getting him back is nearly impossible on her own.

Next time, we see her attempt to do this again during the anteiku raid. Yomo has to stop Touka from going to anteiku, as she claims that while she doesn’t want to die – she also doesn’t want to be alone. She can’t stand the idea of losing her new family, and argues with Yomo, saying that she deserves to be punished, just like the other members of anteiku. Her fear of being alone outweighs hers desire to live.

She can’t stand the idea of going through that pain again.

She has a breakdown in this chapter, asking why everyone around her has just randomly died or left – and thinks back to all of the people in her life who she has lost, or is about to lose. She still wants to go save them, and she still want to die with them.

Luckily, Touka seems to have been able to move past this way of thinking over the years thanks to Yomo’s influence – and is later able to leave him behind in the underground, remembering the words that he told her during the anteiku raid. But, this aspect of Touka’s character is so important, tragic, and often overlooked.

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Regarding Touka and Yoriko

I already talked about this in an ask, but I’ve seen enough misunderstanding about this that I’m going to address this in a full fledged post.

Touka cares about Yoriko. (Yes, she really does.)

Touka didn’t react? Yes, she did react, but in a subtle way. When Touka said “Is it something hard to say?”, she knew that Kaneki wanted to talk about Yoriko’s execution. And then on the following panels on the same page we see this:

Her expression in the first panel is anything but happy. It’s clear that she’s troubled that Yoriko is going to die because of her. And she continued to show that sadness during the conversation, when she was talking about the due date of the baby (but was actually still thinking of Yoriko):

Touka didn’t talk about it with Kaneki? I personally think a lot was said about it during their conversation, though it was through their body language rather than their words. Despite the (relatively) light conversation about the baby and its due date, Kaneki and Touka look sorrowful, and try to comfort each other physically. This is just speculation on my part, but maybe Touka couldn’t bring herself to talk about it without breaking down, or maybe she thought that Kaneki would be more likely to go after Yoriko if she revealed how sad she was for Yoriko. 

Either way, even if she didn’t talk about it through her words, both Kaneki and Touka understood each other perfectly. No need for an inner monologue because Ishida showed enough of Touka’s thought process through her actions and Kaneki’s reaction to her decision.

I think one of the reasons this scene was misinterpreted is because of the medium it was written in. It would’ve been much more clear that this was a double-layered conversation if it was animated and fully voiced, because the voice actors would provide the emotions in their voice that a print medium lacks. For example, there was a certain scene in SNK involving Reiner that was confusing for me to understand until it was animated in season 2, with the voice actor clearly expressing the character’s emotions that made his actions much easier to understand.

The manga medium definitely has its weaknesses, particularly in scenes like this. My only advice is to slow down when you’re reading (re-read too!), and pay attention to every panel with an open mind. What are the characters doing, how are they reacting, why are they doing what they are doing? What expression is Touka making, is she happy or sad that Yoriko will die? Why does she seem sad when she’s talking about the baby? How do her actions fit with her character that we’ve seen throughout the entire story?

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Timeline of the Revolution(s)

In taking another look at the story Nishiki tells about the original OEK’s revolution, I noticed some discrepancies in the story we have been given up until now, so I figured I’d try to reconstruct the timeline here.

According to the CCG, and so one assumes, the official record, the CCG was founded by Daikichi Washuu around 1890.

This matches up with what Eto says, about the original OEK being the reason the CCG was founded over 100 years ago.

Nishiki’s telling seems at first to match Eto’s:

 but there are a few strange details that don’t quite add up.

Nishiki seems to place this about two generations back and mentions humans being ravaged by war at the time, seeming to imply a post-WWII timeline. 

But assuming the history of the Tokyo Ghoul universe is the same as ours (plus ghouls), and assuming Nishiki was just being overly simplistic with his two generation time marker, the original 1890 founding date gives us the Bakumatsu period and the internal Japanese wars that went along with the beginning of the Meiji restoration. The creation of a central anti-ghoul corporation by the Washuu at this time would have been right in line with The Meiji restoration’s modernization, formalization and centralization of industry and state, regardless of any revolutionary ghoul running around, so it’s an easy thing for the official CCG narrative to omit.

But Nishiki’s telling actually seems to imply a second revolution after the CCG was already founded, taking advantage of the post WWII chaos. A second OEG and a second rebellion, this time leading to the formation of V, as separate from the founding of the CCG. Such an event would lend some credence to Eto’s claim that One Eyed Ghouls have historically been a sign of change, if this had happened twice before, not just the once.

A post WWII timeline makes more sense for the construction of the 24th ward, as well - considering the total chaos and massive rebuilding efforts, as well as more advanced technology at the time. 

It also implies some 55 years of a Washuu led CCG without the existence of V, or at the very least, a shift in the functionality of the behind the scenes group. It also seems to imply a significant increase in CCG extermination efforts around that time, an echo of Nishiki’s observation that the current CCG under Furuta is making the previous efforts of the CCG look like a joke, something which Furuta also mentions on his side of things. The Washuu were staying their hand. 

History does tend to repeat itself.

I expect we are due for a more explicit history lesson on the Washuu and V soon, but a second revolution only some 70-odd years in the past certainly strengthens the possibility that the leader of that rebellion is still alive down deep in the 24th, somehow.

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omg, i always wonder why Arima said "645 times" in that fight with Ken. And now i just realized those numbers also appear in Eto's panel(; A ;)but what is the meaning behind these 645,546? since it involve both Eto and Arima, maybe it hinted that there is a special connection between them? god i think im crazy now

OKAY! I’ve been meaning to write this tarot post forever. I’ll break it down by explaining what the cards are, what they mean for each person, how they connect to Kaneki, and how they tie Arima and Eto’s history together in a neat little bow (it’s pretty amazing, so hold onto your shorts).

*claps hands* let’s go:

VI: The Lovers 

Arima (upright): love, balance, giving, decisions, unification, harmony. 

This card is usually taken at face-value, but on a deeper level actually represents commitment and the choices you make in order to achieve harmony. It forces you to reflect upon your personal values and fears, and how they apply to your relationships. 
I could go on for years about how TG: Jack was the story of how Arima came into this position of wanting to change things, but in essence, the Lovers represents his decision to seek harmony between humans and ghouls, and the commitment he’s made to doing so for the last 18 years. 

Eto (reversed): trials, consequences born of brash decisions, miscommunication, unrequited affection

The Reversed Lovers often acts as a warning signal for the reader who seeks the best of both worlds. It offers a chance to stop and reflect on one’s decisions to avoid making a mistake. However, it also represents a general sense of disharmony, unrequited love, or that catastrophe is imminent if left unchecked.
In Eto’s case, she expressed her love for Kaneki after their cataclysmic fight on the rooftop shortly before she was seen bathing with the reversed 6 on both her foot and the photo packet. The card presents her misunderstanding of love on silver platter, and shows that she cannot give purely what she’s never received, no matter how much she yearns for it herself.

IV: The Emperor 

- Arima (upright): strength, responsibility, willpower, knowledge, fatherly love

The Emperor represents inner-balance and the ability to rely on his own wisdom and strength to protect and secure his kingdom and loved-ones. This card offers a solid foundation on which to stand confidently and find success in your endeavors.
If the Emperor were to appear before Arima, it would mean that an opportunity to express his strength and wisdom has arisen. This is pretty self-evident, as he found Kaneki and used everything he had in order to raise him like his own.

- Eto (reversed): resentment, impulsiveness, unrest, dominance

The Emperor reversed represents a cycle of conflict brought about by lack of love, understanding, and stability. This person feels the need to dominate situations, and often relies on violence to mold their surroundings. They often feel discordant with the world around them, and desperately need something positive to keep them from spiraling out of control or abusing their power.
Obviously, Eto holds an extremely acute resentment towards both her father and the life she was born into. The reversed Emperor is very self-explanatory in her case. 

V: The Hierophant

- Both (upright): organizations, wisdom, captivity, power, unity

This one is super interesting for both Arima and Eto, especially as it’s the only one they share upright. The Hierophant is a highly spiritual card, and reacts on every level of both the desire for structure and the desire for freedom. It represents the quest for the meaning of life, and how institutions and relationships effect your place in this world. 
Most of all, the Hierophant offers himself as a connection and a guide. He is shown on his throne unifying two people by the power of the divine
Eto and Arima were always destined to meet. In the seven principals of Hermeticism (the school of thought that bore tarot) it is believed that “opposites attract” because they are really only two extremes of the same thing. This brings us to:

645 = 546. 

Arima comes from a life of strict rules and regulations, but through a series of small opportunities, was given the chance to see that things were not quite right. He reflected, saw that he had the ability to do something about it, and has remained steadfast and meticulous in his desire for change.

Eto was born alienated, pushed into hiding by her father and left to fend almost entirely for herself in poverty. She has learned to kick and claw her way into control, lest the world around her crushes her back into oblivion. She does, however, understand on a visceral level that it’s not only unfair to herself, but unfair to others like her. In turn, she has made it her life’s mission to do whatever it takes to change things, too.

In the end, Arima and Eto come from opposite backgrounds and ways of thinking, but connect in the center by one common entity. They are extremely polar people, but have been brought together through their single shining thread: the Hierophant, aka V, or 5, or “quinque” in latin. 

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Now that I’ve calmed down, I wanted to add something more to the discussion about the most recent chapter, and how it affected both Kaneki and Touka. 

I will go over both positive and negative reactions, and try to dig deeper and understand what ishida meant to portray with ch 125. So bear with me, and if you can’t be mature about it, please stay clear of my askbox. I don’t need your input. 

So, first of all let me start by saying something that’s surely going to piss off someone: TG isn’t about romance, it’s about the relationships you form with other people that shape you into the person you are

“Human relationship are chemical reactions. If you have a reaction, then you can never return to your previous state of being.“ 

This is particularly true for someone like Kaneki, whose most prominent feature is empathy. Once he empathizes with someone, he changes his behaviour accordingly. 

What I mean to say is, if you read the chapter through the lenses of romance, you’ll miss a lot of what Ishida meant to portray here. First of all, it was never a competition between Touka and Hide. It’s not about who Kaneki has feelings for. it’s about how he’s been influenced by these bonds. Let’s start by analising his relationship with Hide. Before Touka confessed her feelings to Kaneki, he only ever had one example of unconditional love, and that came from Hide. Though in Hide’s case it had never been addressed as romantic attraction, Hide’s friendship was very important to Kaneki, who up until he met him had never experienced a form of love which didn’t come with abuse. Hide’s friendship is important to Kaneki because Hide sees value in Kaneki’s life:

And this is important because Kaneki had driven that point home. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. 

this was said by the hallucination of Hide in Kaneki’s mind during the fight in Cochlea. It was all the more powerful because it came from Kaneki’s own mind. As a result, Kaneki subconsciously started putting Hide on a pedestal and his depression and lack of purpose in life made him even go as far as trying to emulate him through seeking an heroic death that would paint him as someone worth loving. Rescuing Hinami from Cochlea was is way to “go out with a bang”. He never meant to get out of it alive. 

Needless to say, this attitude of idolizing someone is, of course, unhealthy.

Now let’s see the relationship with Touka Kaneki has always had a soft spot for Touka. Even before he became Haise and made it explicit, he already had romantic feelings for her. You can see that in how he always treated her differently than the rest of his crew: he always left her behind and encouraged her to keep away from harm’s way. During the recent talk, he confessed that all along he was scared that she would go up and die somewhere without his knowledge, which was something he selfishly couldn’t bear. 

That’s where it becomes interesting: up until Touka confesses the very same thing about him, Kaneki didn’t even realize that his feelings for her were requited. This, paired with the newfound knowledge that his selfish behaviour has only hurt Touka more, culminated with character growth: here he asked Touka to stay at his side. That’s the important shift: for the very first time after he lost Hide, he finally realized that someone else loves him. Here, for the first time in a long while, he can find meaning in life instead of in death.  

Here’s what bothers me, though. Please bear with me a little longer. 

In her haste to keep true to her words to prevent him from pursuing death, imho Touka actually miscommunicated something very important. I personally get the vibe that instead of telling him “you need to live on for yourself because your life has meaning”, which is what you should tell a suicidal person, the message she let through was “you need to live on for me because I love you and I care about you.” Which is codependence on both sides. In other words, this chapter was a step forward because Kaneki got past his suicidal ideation, and two steps back because he went back to putting people on pedestals and living on for other people’s sake. Replacing a bad coping method with another. The good news about this is that he doesn’t seem to be actively seeking suicide yet, but the bad news is that now his happiness resides in Touka’s hands. Which, per se, wouldn’t be a bad thing if they weren’t so codependent. But if Touka (or her possible babies) were to get hurt (which is a given both for her recent cover art and for the birthday poem: see here and here), he would go back to blaming himself. 

Now, I wanted to make clear that, given how they made love before talking at length about their feelings and before a proper character develpment, this chapter wasn’t bad writing per se. It’s nothing different from what Kaneki and Touka did all their life. I even understand why they did it. I cannot blame Touka for trying her best to keep Kaneki from leaving her after she lost a great majority of her family, and I cannot blame Kaneki for not knowing what’s good for him after a lifetime of self-loathing or for not knowing how not to rush into a relationship after he basically had no healthy role models in his formative years. 

What’s really bad is romanticising this kind of dynamic. I’ve seen tons of people saying that this is character and relationship development for both of them when it’s clearly anything but. 

So, if this chapter wasn’t meant to be about a romantic subplot, what was it actually about?

Emotional vulnerability. 

Yes, that’s it. It’s that simple. That’s the real huge step forward. Not admitting their feelings for each other, because we didn’t need a sex scene to know that they loved each other. They already admitted it right before Mutsuki barged in. 

What’s new is these three panels in particular, imho:

First, Kaneki exposing his body, a literal patchwork of his dual nature, something he’s always been very sensitive and insecure about, for someone else to see. 

Secondly, his tears. Not so long ago, Hide described Kaneki as someone not very honest with his feelings. Someone who’s used to acting when he’s around other people. Here, though, he’s not wearing any masks.

Thirdly, just look at the emotional vulnerability he displays in front of Touka. Curled up in a fetal position, he lays with his head on Touka’s lap much like a kid taking a nap on their mother’s belly would. I don’t think that the maternal aura Touka has on in that last page is just a coincidence, and I refer both to a possible hint of Kaneki finally getting past his own issues with his mother figures, and of the possible future implications for the plot that center around Touka’s womb that have been going around lately. 

So, these were my two cents. I hope I won’t prompt another ship war, because as always this is just my opinion, which is personal, and should be respected as such even if you don’t share it. 

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Back then you said that Touka could be Kaneki's equal and tbh, I didnt understand exactly what you meant, but with today's chapter I realised that Kaneki needs someone to be by his side, not behind or ahead him and Touka just gave him that posibility, I think today's chapter is about this (alongside with the obvious "lets do it 😏 when the time comes and you feel ready") and it became clear when he asked her to go with him, once you think about it with a cold head it is really beautiful

Aww Anon…!

Yes, Touka is Kaneki’s equal because she doesn’t see the OEK when she looks at him. She’s his equal because she cares about him, romantically likes him and she’s not afraid to tell him, even though she’s aware she could lose him anytime as they both live knowing this is war. 

That’s mostly why, like you, I’m happy about…

…this scene. 

There is no doubt that Kaneki in fact never thought about him and Touka “together” before (even though he has Haise’s memories) and his recent depression wasn’t of help at all when it came to thinking about wanting a possible relationship. Nonetheless, he fully understood what Touka meant just before Tsukiyama barged in the room and, even though he didn’t have the time to give her any answer back then, this scene above is the beginning of his answer. 

And really, I don’t think Mutsuki, Furuta and V are going to really get in the way of that. I might be biased, but really I don’t think I am, it’s not even about shipping.

If Kaneki really didn’t have any idea as to how he felt about Touka or what she meant to him, or even if he really didn’t feel the same way as her, he could have just sent her with another group. Yet, by asking her to go with him, he showed her that he heard everything that she told him and that he’ll try to act differently from now on. 

Again, I don’t think I’m biased when I say that there isn’t any ambiguity in Kaneki’s feelings for Touka. What’s less obvious is whether he’s ready or not to think about being happy for once, despite the war outside, Furuta and the purpose Arima gave him. The fact he never thought about a possible “together” between Touka and him before (again, Haise aside) makes me think he’s not there yet in his head, but this chapter was the beginning of something, otherwise he would have left her behind again.

Thanks for reading Anon, I’m really happy if you think I made sense about their relationship at least once before! xD Thanks for passing by and have a nice weekend :3

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Berserk and Amon

Since :Re began (and even earlier, really), it feels like Ishida is making intentional references to the manga “Berserk” within Amon’s story arc. The most obvious evidence of all actually begins with Seidou… 

Now, this gross meat pile isn’t only a meat pile. It looks really similar to the Behelit from Berserk.

Though Ishida could’ve simply been going for a horror element here, the meat that Amon was originally given to eat had no faces. It was just a pile of human meat that was successfully presented as horrifying without further visual impact. Furthermore, the Crimson Behelit offers the chance for one of Berserk’s main characters to leave his humanity behind in exchange for his flesh, blood, and family…and Seidou changed after consuming the meat he was given (implied to be the meat of his family members). The Behelit is active when its eyes are open, too, so it seems like this reference was probably intentional.  Of course, just one reference isn’t enough to build a theory off of. Fortunately, there are more! The gross meat pile makes its return in the latest chapter…

Though it no longer has the characteristic egg-shape. It is however, something that haunts Amon. It also looks like something that haunts Guts, a character with a lot of eery similarities to Amon.

The disgusting demon baby that follows Guts and Caska around is representative of his trauma, his guilt, and his fears. It isn’t harmful by itself and, at times, is actually helpful. This is well in-line with what human meat represents to Amon. The demon baby is eventually consumed by a Behelit and is used to “change the world”, as per the wish of an (explicitly reference to be) empty man. Considering the context this image was brought up in, and keeping in mind Amon’s desire to change the world, it seems that this reference is intentional.  Still, more evidence is required before people can really start drawing parallels between Guts’ arc in Berserk and Amon’s in Tokyo Ghoul. Luckily for me, people have been speculating about their similarities for quite some time and so panels are easy to find. 

1.  Both characters wield a frankly ridiculously huge weapon that they inherited from a friend. The weapon requires a massive amount of strength to use and is unique to them. 

2.  They both lost an arm. 

3.  The Arata armour looks almost exactly like Guts’ armour. Both sets of armour are taxing for their user to operate, but were necessary to fight enemies much stronger than themselves.

4.  They both wind up having the aesthetic of a “Dark Knight”. As a “knight”, they wind up saving young girls who later return the favour and help bring them down from a monstrous take-over by their armour without killing them. 

(Amon rescues Saiko in full armour, ffs) 5. Suffered a massive betrayal at the hands of a father figure. Killed many people for said father-figure (as children!!!!) and developed an obsession with perpetuating this cycle. Also: both orphans.

6.  A cross to bear ie. Amon’s cross and Guts’ mark (both on their necks, both meant to never let them escape from their past, both with massive religious connotations) 

7.  Their whole look. The entire thing. Half-ghoul Amon looks so much like Guts.

There’s also the “near constant state of hatred towards a world they perceive as wrong” thing and the “fail to learn from their mistakes” thing and the “is basically no longer human” thing alongside the “awkward beautiful man who doesn’t know how to deal with women” thing.  TLDR: Guts and Amon share a lot of characteristics and this latest chapter brought it up again so I couldn’t help but make a compilation post. 

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