DVA,Genji and Hanzo vs ? ? ?
like you might mean well but this drawing is pretty racist. you’re reimagining overwatch characters as samurai champloo characters who are all japanese, and while Hanzo and Genji are both japanese, Dva is korean.
And in depicting Dva as this japanese character you’re essentially reinforcing the stereotype of how all east/south-east asians are the same and a monolithic entity which is very harmful and not okay.
edit: especially because Japan has a history of imperialism within east and south-east asia and has forced many people of the countries (which includes korea) under it’s thumb at that time to assimilate and discard their own heritage, culture, language, and roots
^^^^ You’re a fucking idiot. It is LITERALLY JUST FANART DRAWN BASED OFF OF POSES FROM AN ANIME. They didn’t even use the exact same style, and they are just having fun drawing art! They probably didn’t even pay attention to the character’s nationalities and race all too much when drawing this. It’s fucking fan art, calm the fuck down. Now, OP, your art is great! Just ignore the “this art is racist” bullshit! Just keep doing what you’re doing! It’s great!
lol maybe you should shut the fuck up considering it’s not just the same poses the overwatch characters are drawn wearing literally the same outfits as the samurai champloo characters except for the color scheme and you can have fun drawing art and still you pay attention to details that are important in order to not do something that perpetuates racist notions that are directly affecting REAL, LIVING people TODAY
also interesting that u say they weren’t paying attention to nationalities and races considering samurai champloo is really distinctly and obviously set in japan and 2/3 of the overwatch characters they chose to portray as samurai champloo characters are japanese and the third one is conveniently one of the only two east asian women in overwatch
One, I don’t think the OP even knows the characters names, considering they didn’t tag their names and put question marks instead of their names. Two, they mostly used the same outfits because they were using the Samurai Champloo pic as a fucking base and didn’t want to draw all new outfits. Also, you are a COMPLETE fucking idiot if you think this art affects anyone negatively at all. Well, it affects over sensitive pussies like yourself who get so worked up over a FUCKING DRAWING ON THE INTERNET. It literally harms NO ONE. Seriously, only assholes like you that actively try to find bullshit reasons to get offended are looking this and thinking “OH THIS IS ABOUT ASIAN PEOPLE STEREOTYPES AND RACISM uwu.” Most people look at this and think, “Oh, someone made cute art of completely fictional characters. It is cute and I like it. Reblog and like!” That is literally it! Only people who are trying to find things to be offended by will look at this and think about stereotypes and racism and such. YOU are the one making this about race and stuff. YOU are the one trying to make a completely innocent drawing a controversial thing with your bullshit. For all you know, the artist could be asian! Shut your god damn mouth and stop trying to police art. OP, I’m sorry for this drama garbage. Your art is wonderful!
Like… you can argue that it’s “just a parody” or that “they didn’t pay attention to the nationalities” or whatever but in the end it’s still a really shitty thing to do.
They drew D.Va with what looks like kanzashi in her hair + if it’s a straight pose rip, a kimono?
In order to understand why this is kind of fucked up, you need to understand that Korea and Japan don’t particularly have a great relationship historically. D.Va is Korean. And given the Japanese occupation of Korea where Korean people were forcibly stripped of their culture - it’s insensitive at the VERY least and yes PRETTY RACIST. Korean women (as well as Chinese women) were forced into sexual slavery for the Japanese military and labeled as “comfort women”??? People were violently forced to assimilate and given Japanese names and beaten unless they spoke Japanese. My grandparents lived through the occupation and can still read and speak Japanese to this date because they were forced to learn w/ the threat of violence and death. It’s fucking offensive to Koreans. It’s not just some made up “bullshit”
Even beyond the historical insensitivity this piece exhibits, mainstream western culture so often conflates East Asian countries together. I’ve personally been taunted with “ching chong” and had people wildly guess my ethnicity. This sort of behavior isn’t just limited to playground taunts either. Take Vincent Chin, for example. A Chinese man who was murdered because he was mistaken as Japanese? Perpetuating the Asian monolith myth is not only disrespectful. It’s dangerous. So no, it’s not just “fanart”. Sorry your opinions literally don’t fucking matter in this case because HISTORICALLY shit like this has harmed East Asians.
Also, OP didn’t even draw this art. They stole it from the original artist so, lmao. @scarletgoldenthorn you’re not even ~defending~ the right person. I hope it was worth it spending a part of ur day defending an art reposter.
<apparently the only thing you can be upset about is if the art was stolen and reposted LMAO otherwise, ”you’re segregating cultures!!!”>
Racism is over thanks to @scarletgoldenthorn everybody just learn to stop being a total whiny bitch and love Japanese imperialism, what might they rant about next- how ‘comfort women’ were ‘handsomely paid for their services and not raped and abused at all’? I’m dying to find out.
@scarletgoldenthorn you wanna shut the fuck up lmao. sit the fuck down and stop defending art that isnt even yours you extra bitch
There is literally no issue with this drawing. <more racism>
this isnt a discussion this, its korean people telling you to know your place you cunt
<racism>
korean history isnt a discussion will you drop that. who’s “they” huh? oh right, koreans! when a korean, such as me, tells you to shut up just stop. why are you so obbsessed with koreans being able to wear kimonos, unless you’re korean or japanese your opinion means literally nothing so sit! the! fuck! down!
<white tears>
It’s literally not about what Korean people /can/ wear though? We’re literally saying that lumping D.Va in an Overwatch x Samurai Champloo crossover piece done in this manner is racist because of the historical implications there that parallel both imperialist Japanese and western stereotypes about Korean people??
And just because your ancestors had a ~history of oppression~ that you’re fine with ignoring, that doesn’t mean that you get to talk over multiple people who are pointing out why this is a problem. There are now five different people telling you that there is a context that you have no authority to be speaking over us on. Maybe instead of getting defensive and calling all of us hyper-sensitive pussies and de-railing the central point of what was being said, you should hear us out and analyze what’s being said with an introspective outlook.
Not to mention, this isn’t a thing that happened centuries ago and remains in the past. These tensions still exist. My grandmother still has trouble responding to her Korean name. My aunt, who currently lives in America, speaks more English and Japanese than Korean. My mother got verbally shit on by her family and her husband for learning Japanese from the Japanese embassy - in the 1970s. My sister was almost disowned for taking Japanese as her language in high school (early 2000s). I almost got disowned for taking Japanese as part of my college major (literally a few months ago). Japan’s prime ministers flip flop between conciliatory olive branch relations with Korea and claiming that comfort women were “wartime necessities” rather than the war crimes they were. You might think that some of these are absurd and yes I admit that my father especially is a conservative Korean man but the point is, these tensions are still very largely unresolved.
This one piece of art might not have an earth-shattering impact on the perception of Korean people but it’s one more piece that aggressive racists can use as fodder. It’s one more show of ignorance, and whether it’s benign or malignant I’m sure OP can clarify that.
At this point this “discussion” isn’t even about OP anymore, it’s about people like you who insist that the multiple people disagreeing with you are the pussies and insist that your voice be the One Voice that everyone listens to when it’s very obvious you have no ground to stand on with regard to the context.
<all east asians look the same apparently>
You do realize that’s irrelevant to what we were saying? What does it matter where Mugen is from? Is D.Va (Korean) supposed to be a stand-in for him (Ainu)? No, you literally said yourself that D.Va has been superimposed on Fuu.
And again, you’re de-railing and ignoring us. As far as I know, this whole thing started with you taking it upon yourself to be aggressively ignorant after someone pointed out a potentially problematic point in their art. This conversation has moved beyond OP and their (potentially reposted) art and to you and your refusal to pipe down and listen to us. This is going beyond the art and into what /you/ are saying and doing that is ignorant.
You were the one who lashed out first by calling the first commenter a “fucking idiot” and maybe it’s time for you to ask yourself why you reacted so rabidly to someone pointing out a set of stereotypes the art seems to perpetuate instead of telling all of us that we’re reacting over nothing.
<informing about japanese imperialism is “racial propaganda” apparently>
<friend of scarlet’s with nothing of interest to add>
@lazy-afternooner lmao geez.. just wondering if you’re seeing this too & if you wanna say what’s up on your side. I read you tried to do some retroactive damage control in the tags but I guess some people have decided to assume you’re being bullied and have gone into full troll mode. If you need some hanbok refs or drawing tips, I’ll find you some. No big deal & I’m sure a lot of Koreans would like to see that artwork.
guys look at this non-korean tryna tell koreans whats racist and what isnt
this is hilarious
@scarletgoldenthorn can kiss my gooky ass
korean people: *gives free education on the cultural history between japan and korea and its correlation to this art’s implication—art being one of the things that are defining points at any given point in history*
this non-korean shitstain: I’M NOT RACIST, YOU’RE RACIST BY TELLING ME IT’S RACIST!! STAHP BEING UPSET, KOREANS!! IT’S RACIAL PROPAGANDA!! IT’S JUST PIXELS!! ART MEANS NOTHING!!
you can’t even go one paragraph without insulting people who are rightfully upset and who clearly know more about their own culture and history than you do.
anyway, here are other racists to exercise your block list who agreed with this ignorant edgelord (with receipts; unlinked means it’s a reply i can’t link): fancypantaloones, pokecrettes, augur-of-dunlain, blind-venerer, f77k, mooncplise-dump, tatarthekaiju, doppel-dude, and kurtcurtis.