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hello! my name is junadeo, pronounced however you'd like. I like philosophy and doing art. I rarely post about either for different reasons.

you can send me any messages or asks or whatever i honestly would really enjoy it!!!ok thank youu goodbye :)

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that-house

I’ve been playing so much sudoku. You have no idea how much sudoku I’m playing. Every time I close my eyes I see the grid. I’m making moves in my sleep. 179432568. 653897124. 824516937. 915683742. 246175893. 387249615. 561724389. 498351276. 732968451. This morning before I was fully awake I was playing sudoku in my head. I rise with the dawn. I’m a warrior of numbers. You’re nothing to me.

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What does "treating her like a girl" even seriously entail. Telling her to go make you a sandwich. Like a girl

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jothb

On the topic of Leftist Andrew Tate and other mythical creatures of the liberal mind

ID: Two screenshots of a Twitter thread by Joth @ jothwip with text reading:

"The reason men are turning fascist is because the feminist and workers movements of the past decades have made it harder for them to own women as property, with current movements threatening to rid them of power they still have. Not because lesbians are mean to them

"When you talk of "The left alienating men" you are either buying the fascists at their word, or suggesting feminists compromise by not abolishing the power men have over women. Either option puts you on the same side as them"

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evilsoup

I just don't think it's true that "men" as a whole are turning fascist

I don't think that's really the argument here. It's specifically Western cishet white men, particularly men of the middle and upper classes, who are acting on this sense of aggrieved entitlement that the world that was "supposed" to be theirs is now telling them they must share it with others, and that women are not their reward for good behavior but in fact their equals. and so many of these guys believe themselves to be feminists, but can't wrap their head around the idea that their hurt feelings and bruised egos are irrelevant in a conversation about women, particularly marginalized women, losing their political rights. scratch a male ally and an MRA bleeds🤷‍♂️

My problem with this is that many millions of women also support right-wing, far-right, and fascist causes. Personally I've played a part in disrupting "For Britain" when their leader, a woman, tried to hold a launch meeting in my city; Meloni and Le Pen are women; when I've had to go help defend a nearby hotel housing refugees or help organise the counter-demo to the attempted islamophobic pogrom in August there were plenty of women on the other side -- clearly motivated by the supposed threat of refugee sexual violence, i.e. on a feminist basis. Some 45% of American women voters voted for Trump along with 55% of American men voters. So there is a gendered difference, and the stuff described here probably makes a difference to that margin, but it's clearly a secondary cause at most of the rise of the far right.

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jambeast

Also just a deep failure to imagine any position on sex and gender less than 'the specific kind of progressive leftist feminist that I am' and greater than 'fascist who wants to own women as slaves'

This is a particularly extreme form, but I see an awful lot of stuff in this vein that seems to think that the 1880s, the 1920s, and the 1970s all happened, like, last decade and right-wing men are just responding to this now.

It's very funny to see people continue to blame white, cishet, middle and upper class men as so many young, poorer men of all races voted for Trump.

"you keep saying we are alienating this demographic because we obviously hate them, but that's not true! they turn away from us because they're so stupid and evil and contemptible."

"There must be a reason for why Andrew Tate got such a large following besides 'thousands of men individually made a bad judgement call' and 'feminists are being too mean', something material and real"

"Wow, so you're saying you hate men? That's what you're saying. You think men are evil and stupid. Wow this is why the manosphere is so popular"

Y'know there really is probably some interesting and useful analysis to be done on the topic, it's just that the analysis being provided by OP isn't that - it's not really going much further than 'men are evil'

It's like, the opposite of analysis, it's anti-analysis.

I'm OP. Please tell me how "Men arent attracted to the manosphere because feminists are mean to them" is me saying any version of "men are Evil"

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weiszklee

The original post is literally saying men are turning fascist because they want to keep women as slaves. That's as close as you can get to "men are evil" without outright saying it.

Anyway, I agree that it takes more than mean leftists to turn people into fascists. I think the biggest danger of mean leftists is making people disengaged and unwilling to entertain certain ideas.

i feel like in some bizzarro universe

Do men, as a class, not have authority over women? Are men, as a class, not shaped by our society to expect that power, and see it as a given? have men, as a class, not directly owned women in most of the world throughout history, as recently as the last century in the west?

A major focus of the feminist movements of the last century in the west was getting women into the workforce, in order to make them not financially dependant on their husbands. Is that not a form of ownership? And if you analyse the things the Manosphere promises, the future it wants for women, as stay-at-home tradwives, is that not a promise of ownership?

Literally none of this has anything to do with someone being evil, it is all just really basic marxist analysis of the material reality which forms these movements and why it attracts men. How can you do anything about it if you cant even acknowledge the conditions which shaped this movement?

Men are not a class. Marxist analysis does not apply. There is no common interest uniting me and Trump. A common interest based on gender is a lie, and I do actually suspect that believing this lie is part of what does drive some men into the "manosphere", so repeating and reinforcing that lie is the opposite of the feminist project.

And yes, wanting to hold people as slaves is evil. A lot of men in the "manosphere" are evil. But that is a very, very different statement from the assumption that men's evilness is what drives them into these contexts.

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junadeo

I would like to point out that many of the men in the manosphere are quite young, too young to have held any control over women in their lives. What can the manosphere promise them, a return to a more patriarchal past where everything was supposedly better for them? But so many men have never experienced that past for themselves to feel nostalgia over it, there never was a past where everything was better for those young men, because they are too young to have experienced it!

In addition, young rightwing men seem to be socially isolated, with no or few interpersonal relationships with women, so how could they have ever exploited them?

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Actually seriously killing myself that was so embarrassing. Fuck me in the ass

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