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A group of students enter a classroom. There are plenty of desks and seats for everyone and varied books and activities scattered about for them to keep themselves busy. There is no teacher or supervisor in the room and no instructions displayed on the board or anywhere else. The students are merely meant to remain in the classroom for a certain amount of time, and what they do during that time is up to them. On one table in one corner of the room is a stack of blank tests. In their investigation of the room, a few students happen upon them. Some decide to sit down and work on the test; some even attempt to go around and tell the other students that they are supposed to work on the test. Maybe some people listen to them, but others don’t, because there are no instructions anywhere in the room and these test taking students don’t have any way of knowing what the teacher wants any more than the others do. One student says that they have just now heard the teacher say to do the test, but no one else heard it and the student has no evidence to support their claim, and so most of the students simply go about their own activities, reading and discussing what seems useful and important to them. At the end of the class time, the teacher finally appears. “Oh good, some of you found the test!” the teacher says, but then, frowning, sees that many others did not complete the assignment. “Those who took the test are good students who get an A for the class and will now be rewarded with a pizza party!” the teacher decrees. “And those who didn’t have failed the class and now will be punished!” “How were we supposed to know to take the test?” the students to be punished demand. “You never came here to teach us and you left no instructions for us! Those who took the test just guessed that they were supposed to! We had no reason to trust their judgement more than our own!” “It doesn’t matter,” the teacher responds, and tells the students that they should have trusted someone else’s guess, even though that person is just as fallible and uninformed as them. Even though the students who took the test had no instructions, were not teachers, had not spoken with the teacher, and for all they knew were doing an assignment not meant for them, out of all of the things available in the classroom – good books and study material, educational games and invigorating debates – they should have simply known that they were supposed to do this one assignment and nothing else, and since they didn’t, they don’t get the reward and in fact get a punishment.

I don’t think anyone would say this situation is fair or even makes sense, and that’s why religions that proselyte and threaten damnation on non-believers make no sense to me. If you personally believe something, fine. If you’ve had experiences that lead you to believe something, fine. But expecting someone else to just take your word on it is ludicrous, and talking about eternal rewards and punishments in the afterlife for which you have no evidence is the most transparent attempt to use fear to trick people into your religion that I have ever seen. (via jezunya)

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A group of students enter a classroom. There are plenty of desks and seats for everyone and varied books and activities scattered about for them to keep themselves busy. There is no teacher or supervisor in the room and no instructions displayed on the board or anywhere else. The students are merely meant to remain in the classroom for a certain amount of time, and what they do during that time is up to them. On one table in one corner of the room is a stack of blank tests. In their investigation of the room, a few students happen upon them. Some decide to sit down and work on the test; some even attempt to go around and tell the other students that they are supposed to work on the test. Maybe some people listen to them, but others don’t, because there are no instructions anywhere in the room and these test taking students don’t have any way of knowing what the teacher wants any more than the others do. One student says that they have just now heard the teacher say to do the test, but no one else heard it and the student has no evidence to support their claim, and so most of the students simply go about their own activities, reading and discussing what seems useful and important to them. At the end of the class time, the teacher finally appears. “Oh good, some of you found the test!” the teacher says, but then, frowning, sees that many others did not complete the assignment. “Those who took the test are good students who get an A for the class and will now be rewarded with a pizza party!” the teacher decrees. “And those who didn’t have failed the class and now will be punished!” “How were we supposed to know to take the test?” the students to be punished demand. “You never came here to teach us and you left no instructions for us! Those who took the test just guessed that they were supposed to! We had no reason to trust their judgement more than our own!” “It doesn’t matter,” the teacher responds, and tells the students that they should have trusted someone else’s guess, even though that person is just as fallible and uninformed as them. Even though the students who took the test had no instructions, were not teachers, had not spoken with the teacher, and for all they knew were doing an assignment not meant for them, out of all of the things available in the classroom – good books and study material, educational games and invigorating debates – they should have simply known that they were supposed to do this one assignment and nothing else, and since they didn’t, they don’t get the reward and in fact get a punishment.

I don’t think anyone would say this situation is fair or even makes sense, and that’s why religions that proselyte and threaten damnation on non-believers make no sense to me. If you personally believe something, fine. If you’ve had experiences that lead you to believe something, fine. But expecting someone else to just take your word on it is ludicrous, and talking about eternal rewards and punishments in the afterlife for which you have no evidence is the most transparent attempt to use fear to trick people into your religion that I have ever seen. (via jezunya)

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Do me a favor and reblog this. Jehovah’s Witnesses are a high control cult most known for their door to door evangelicalism work. Recently, they have been outed for their backward “two witnesses” policy that allows abusers and pedophiles to stay in places of power in their congregation and abuse others.

Do not open your door to them, do not stop at their witnessing carts, do not read their publications, do not interact with them. As well as being complicit in thousands of child abuse cases, they are a cult that uses mind control tactics and fearmongering to keep their members isolated from the rest of the world and reality of what their cult is doing to them. They are dangerous and interacting with them is dangerous.

I know OP personally and they’ve told me a lot about this and i cannot stress enough how serious of a matter this is. please spread awareness about this!!

Anyone who randomly knocks on peoples doors is of the devil anyways.

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Hi. This is your reminder that most or all forms of Christianity are abusive. Even liberal ones. Don’t “no true Christian” me.

Religions that are founded, that fundamentally BANK on the concept that you are so inherently wicked + insufficient that you deserve eternal torture unless you offer your entire being to God forever, are abusive.

If you teach kids they are inherently sinful, that is abuse.

If you teach people that they must forgive everyone who hurts them (including abusers, rapists, etc) or they will go to hell, that is abuse.

If you teach children that the world outside the religious community is dangerous and wicked, that is abuse.

Christianity is abuse. Inherited sin is abuse. A power dynamic where you are nothing and God is everything, where you must literally become the slave of a god in order to avoid eternal torture, is abusive and not a choice.

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Things That Don’t Work on Mormon Missionaries

- saying you’re an atheist 

- saying a lot of people have tried to convert you before and failed

- telling them you’re a woman into women when they say “but what if I’m the man to change that”

- telling them you do NOT want to try

- not answering the door

- getting them to leave (they always come back)

The best solution is to say No thank you and hold to it. If they continue to push then you go to asking the hard questions.

- Why is there horses, steel, wheat, coins etc. written in the Book of Mormon when they didn’t exist in the Americas at that time?

- why did Joseph tell several differing versions of the first vision?

- Joseph Smith married two 14 year old girls, why is that not pedophilia?

- Why were blacks not allowed to have the priesthood or go through the temple until 1978?

- Why does the LDS church spend billions on commercial properties and only a couple million on charity?

- How come the writings of the Book of Abraham do not match the writings on the papyri that it was supposed to be translated from?

Hard questions will make missionaries disappear faster than anything, their gospel knowledge is too limited to be able to handle in depth inquiry. You will be marked as anti-Mormon so other missionaries will avoid contact. For more information you can learn at   http://www.mormonthink.com/  Knowledge gives you the upper hand. 

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And best of all, you might just plant a seed that makes those missionaries start wondering about exactly those questions & eventually extricate themselves from that bloodsucking cult. Stranger things have certainly happened.

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