I don’t want to piss off other fans, but I’ve been mulling over this for a while.  The whole “Thor loves Loki and Loki loves Thor” “there is not Thor without Loki & no Loki without Thor” thing – I can’t see it.  From Loki, yes, but not from Thor.

TDW was what really killed this supposed relationship for me.  After Loki is put in his cell – to be locked away for the rest of his life, solitary confinement 24/7 – Thor doesn’t mention Loki at all. We’re not shown someone mentioning him, and Thor reacting with some emotion (hurt, anger, grief, nostalgia, regret, ANYTHING).  Loki is out of sight and out of mind, and it’s easy for Thor to get over him. As I said just before, it would make sense if Thor was deliberately shutting down his emotions with regard to Loki, but we’re not shown that, either.  There’s nothing.

The one exception is the deleted scene of a conversation between Frigga & Thor, after Frigga has been secretly visiting Loki.  And that scene horrifies me even more than Thor’s silence does.

In the MCU, Thor explains that magic = science.  He asks his mother if she regrets educating her son.  Her asks why the “indulgences” of books and visits.  Thor believes that Loki should be locked away and left to rot, for the rest of his entire life, and that even his mother shouldn’t bother about him. There is zero compassion, only confusion.  He genuinely doesn’t understand why Frigga is having anything to do with her son anymore. This shows exactly how Thor is feeling about Loki – he doesn’t care.  You would think they were speaking about a random prisoner whom Thor barely knows.

There’s no relationship there.  There’s no love.  Thor isn’t lost without Loki.  He barely spares him a thought.

It’s not just TDW, though.  I was shocked at how the first Thor movie ended.  The focus is on Jane trying to get back to Thor, not Loki’s suicide.  Like in TDW, Thor spends more energy pining over his girlfriend of three days than his brother of a thousand years.  Yes, he’s anguished and grieving and horrified when Loki lets go.  But he gets past that very quickly.  Hell, Sif shows more emotion over Loki after the initial shock of his fall.

I know a lot of Loki fans don’t like Thor: Ragnarok, but unfortunately, it is canon.  And I don’t think that the way Thor treats Loki is out of character for him at all – it’s got worse, sure, but it’s not much different.  Why should the man who refused to acknowledge Loki’s grief for their mother, care about Loki’s feelings after their father’s death?  Thor has already questioned if Loki has literally any good qualities anymore, and threatens to kill him if he “betrays” him again, so why not the electrocution scene?

You could say – oh, “you don’t understand what you love until you lose it”, but Thor has “lost” Loki 2x before his real death, and didn’t come away from that with any more appreciation for his brother.  And the scenes where he grieves over Loki’s body are moving, but who wouldn’t react that way if a family member was killed in front of them – whether they were close to them or not??  Hell, I suspect I’d react that way if my father was killed like that, and I certainly do not love him.

Grief over a person – even the amount that Thor shows – does not necessarily mean a genuine, heartfelt love for them.  There are all sorts of reasons we mourn a person.  Often, it’s for ourselves rather than for them.

I’m sure that at one point Thor loved Loki.  But he’s mourning for the past, not for Loki himself.  As he says before letting him out his cell, the Loki he once knew is gone.  But that’s always the case – we change, we grow, we become better, we become worse.  I’m not saying Thor has to love Loki.  Sometimes, because people change, we can’t love them any more.  But Thor got over Loki pretty easily – his deaths, his imprisonment, even his relief at finding he was alive after all.  Which suggests to me that his love for Loki wasn’t all that strong in the first place.

Maybe the script-writers didn’t intend it to be that way.  Maybe the intention was to show that close, brotherly relationship that TH goes on about in interviews.  But if so, they failed at making it happen, and this is what we were given instead.

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I totally agree with you on this. Thor had actually given up on Loki in TDW, and his indifference was clear even then, like when he visited Loki in his cell for the first time, and refused to join Loki in grief for their mother even for afew seconds, and treated Loki like any other enemy, any other common prisoner. But years before Ragnarok came out, before we heard anything about what it was going to be like, I felt that by the end of TDW their relationship had at least taken a small step in the right direction. Thor was expecting Loki to betray him, and he would’ve killed him for it, but Loki didn’t betray him. Loki proved himself, he saved Thor and he saved Jane. Loki didn’t have to do any of those things. Why should he? He had officially been completely disowned by Odin, cast out once again, in the dungeon for eternity. Out of sight, out of mind. But he did it. Loki had grown, he had changed, and Thor saw it with his own eyes. But then Ragnarok came out. And now having learned that every degrading treatment, every humiliation, every “joke” at Loki’s expense was partly orchestrated by CH himself, I don’t feel the love anymore. Knowing that that is how CH wants Thor to treat Loki, that right there killed their relationship for me. And it’s killed any hope I had for their relationship in the future, if there even is a future for them. CH is determined to hold on to his “new improved” Thor, and I don’t see that bringing anything good for Loki.

Knowing that  that is how CH wants Thor to treat Loki, that right there killed their relationship for me. And it’s killed any hope I had for their relationship in the future, if there even is a future for them. CH is determined to hold on to his “new improved” Thor, and I don’t see that bringing anything good for Loki. 

Yes, I agree!!  This is why I hope Thor isn’t in the Loki TV series.  He needs to get away from Thor, find his way on his own.  His relationship with Thor is toxic (and there is fault on both sides there, I’m not denying that) and tbh I would say it is holding him back.

Just a little rant, before bed…..

Loki didn’t “betray Thor over and over”. He didn’t betray Thor in TDW. That is where Loki proved how much he’s changed and how far he’s come. His actions were noble and courageous and heroic. He didn’t have to agree to help Thor. Thor hadn’t been to see him the whole time Loki was in the dungeon. The only kindness he offered was a chance at revenge for their mother’s death, knowing his plan would most likely get them killed. And Loki didn’t fail him. Loki didn’t betray the plan. He protected Thor’s mortal WITH HIS LIFE. And he risked and sacrificed his life for Thor in that realm. In my own personal theory, I think Loki saw this plan as his own suicide mission, from which he was determined not to return, because he had lost everything he possibly had to lose. He lost his will to live. He didn’t even agree to help Thor until Thor assured Loki that he would kill him if he betrayed him…

And yeah, he survived. Surviving isn’t a betrayal. (And Thor left the body there to rot in the exposure of the elements. He didn’t bother going back for it) So he banished Odin from the throne, into a nursing home, which was A KINDNESS, considering the wretched way Odin treated him. And under the guise of Odin, Loki gave Thor a kind of a gift. If Thor knew better, he would’ve known that Odin would never have said anything that nice or understanding, much less given him permission to go be with a mortal that he just got done comparing to a goat. That’s still not a betrayal. That was giving Thor what Odin never would.

So Loki didn’t run and tell Thor immediately that he was alive. Thor had just committed all kinds of treason, and Odin was getting more and more feeble and unfit to rule. Thor washed his hands of the responsibility, and Asgard was in pieces. Loki stepped up. Loki took care of his father (let the “goats” take care of him, lol) and granted Thor the freedom he wanted. It was Loki to the rescue, all the way.

You know you’re a badass motherfucker when even the Kursed doesn’t want to let you out. 

I love this so much, because the Kursed is like the ultimate evil the bad guys can muster, and even he’s like “hell no this guy is something, I’m not getting involved”. And Loki just stares him down like “Yeah you run you little bitch.”

Loki Never Faked His Death

I’ve seen enough times that in discussions, people almost always bring up this argument that Loki intentionally faked his death and count it as one of his wrong doings. It has specially happened more often after TR and its retcons and the narrative’s attempt to dismiss and diminish Loki’s pain. They claim that Loki faked his death twice, in Thor 1 and TDW. Here’s why this assumption is wrong:

1. In Thor(2011) Loki committed suicide.

Everything Loki did in Thor 1 was to prove to Odin that he is a worthy son. He is not in a right mental state. After he finds out about the truth of his parentage the thin steel rod that’s been holding his brain together snaps according to Kenneth Branagh. So he thinks by eliminating the danger of Jotunheim he is doing what Odin wants of him. Because Odin wanted to use Loki to bring permanent peace. So Loki in his disordered state of mind thinks by attempting genocide and killing all the monsters once and for all, he is doing his kingdom and Odin a favor. Because he is nullifying the enemy’s danger like what Odin wanted to use him for in the first place. All he wants is Odin’s approval and acknowledgment. In the scene when he is holding the Gungnir, he is literally and figuratively hanging by a thin thread on the edge of an abyss. He tells Odin:

“I could have done it father! I could have done it! For you! For all of us!”

He looks hopefully to Odin. This is his last hope to be accepted. Instead all Loki hears is a disappointed “No Loki”. All Loki sees is disapproval, rejection and disappointment. This breaks Loki. He has lost everything.

And then Loki lets go, not just physically but mentally. He doesn’t see any place, love and acceptance for himself. He doesn’t want to live anymore. He lets go and commits suicide.

Possible counterarguments:

“Loki wanted to escape from the consequences of his actions.”

All Loki cares about at that point is Odin’s approval. He doesn’t think he did anything wrong. He has grown up in a racist culture that sees Jotuns as monsters who are inferior, monsters and lesser people. He was also the rightful king at the time that was betrayed by his subjects and since Asgard is a monarchy, the king’s order is the law and he can’t be punished for his actions as the king.

“Loki knew he would survive.”

According to the “Thor the Dark World Prelude” comic which is part of MCU canon the general knowledge is that when someone falls in the void, they will die. Everyone believed Loki died. That means this is also what Loki believed to happen. It was Frigga who searched for Loki and finally found out that Loki is alive.

“Why didn’t Loki tell his family that he is alive?”

First reason is that Loki has broken ties with his family at that time. He is hurt and heartbroken and probably doesn’t want to see them again. Second, when Heimdall could finally see him he was with the Chitauri and had the scepter. We know before that he was with Thanos and possibly under torture and most probably he would rather be found. Frigga only found him after he was “ready to lead”. And since neither her nor Heimdall knew about Thanos’ involvement, we can conclude that it was Thanos who stopped Loki from being found.

Where does this assumption come from that Loki’s suicide was his attempt at faking his death?

Because there is a scene in TR, in which Loki jokes and laughs about his attempted suicide. As if it was a funny and unimportant thing. Just a story for entertainment. This scene is put in the movie to show all the pain Loki went through was nothing, to further the retcon that all Loki does, are tricks and he does them because he has no other reason except that he is the god of mischief.

2. In TDW Loki didn’t intentionally fake his death. He only survived.

I explained this many times before. So I just copy my explanation from another one of my posts.

“Loki didn’t fake his death to usurp Odin:

1. Loki’s illusions can’t hold upon contact. They get either dissolved or disoriented. In other words they are like images and projections. They are not solid unless they are put on an actual person. Like when Loki was putting illusion on Thor and himself, or when he was Odin and Thor had grabbed him and the illusion didn’t wear off until Loki wanted. So Loki actually was stabbed through the chest to save Thor.

2. The stabbing through chest wasn’t and couldn’t have been planned. Loki didn’t know that the blade couldn’t kill the Kursed. He couldn’t know that Kursed would then impale him on the blade. He also didn’t know if Kursed would hold him on the blade until he died or throw him away sooner. So when he activated that grenade he did it with complete knowledge that it could kill him too. So he also didn’t know that he would survive the stabbing and he didn’t have any hope for it. Because he instantly activated sth that could kill him too. So his apology to Thor was also sincere.

Loki’s sacrifice was real. His only fault!!! was that he survived. And when he survived he took advantage of his situation. He didn’t inform Thor because Thor had promised to return him to his cell. He usurped the throne to take revenge on Odin and in doing so he not only protected Thor and his friends from the consequence of their treason, he made sure to separate the Tesseract and the Aether. Not to mention he offered the throne to Thor and Thor refused.”[X]

Where does this assumption come from that Loki faked his death in TDW?

Thor tells Loki: “You faked your own death” in TR and then continues to blame Loki for everything that happened. And because Thor is the hero of the narrative, people accept everything he says as the truth. It doesn’t matter to them that in the same movie Thor constantly throw things at Loki to know if he is actually there which further proves that Loki’s illusions are not solid.

In conclusion, Loki never faked his death intentionally. He never did it to hurt Thor. He committed suicide when he let go of Gungnir because he had lost all hope that he could ever be a worthy son in the eye of Odin. He was actually stabbed in TDW to save Thor’s life and he thought he was going to die but he survived and took advantage of the situation. His sacrifice was real and the fact that he did survive, doesn’t diminish its value. Loki never intentionally faked his death.

Thank you so much for this @lucianalight <3<3<3

May I just interject two things here?  

#1 - Tom said in an interview that both he & Chris played the scene in TDW as a DEATH scene.  Loki was SUPPOSED to die in TDW but audiences objected so the ending was changed.  LOKI DIDN’T DO THAT!  And the MCU never addressed it PROPERLY.  TW & CH were the ones who characterized it as Loki FAKING his death in TDW.

#2 - When Loki discovered he was alive, he went back to Asgard.  Odin, at that point, had sent Einherjars to “stop Thor at any cost.”  Thor had committed treason.  Odin had also wanted to fight the Dark Elves on Asgard with NO REGARD for the Asgardians, which is why Thor left to confront them elsewhere.  Odin, at the loss of Frigga, had snapped and was no longer fit to rule.  Loki stepped in to prevent chaos on Asgard.

I agree 100% that Loki DID NOT fake his “deaths.”

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If you think Thor Ragnarok should not be considered canon, because it ruined both Thor and Loki by dismissing their trauma and past history in favour of mocking Loki into submission and turning Thor in a toxic bully who can never do wrong because he’s The Hero and The Golden Prince.

I’m just… so tired of seeing people praising this movie. It completely dismissed everything that made up our beloved gods and turned them into a (bad) parody of themselves. Out of personal dignity, I will stick to the other Thor films and Avengers 1.

Thanks for coming to my ranting space and listening.

Some imagined slights with my morning coffee (by an unabashed, unapologetic Loki apologist )

In the original script (and in the novelization) for Ragnarok, Loki doesn’t betray Thor. They leave Sakaar and return to Asgard together. This got changed so that Thor could have his triumphant moment of glory over Loki, and deliver his oh-so-enlightening “life is about change” speech.

Loki did the bad things he did in the first movie because he had a mental and emotional breakdown. His life as he knew it came crashing down. Kenneth Branagh described it as the rod that held his mind together snapping. Look at Loki in this movie. You can practically hear and see when that snap happens. He was in a world of hurt. He wasn’t well.

In Avengers Loki did the bad things he did because he literally fell into the hands of a psycho who then tortured and trained him and turned him into his weapon. Why are people still not paying attention to the details of this movie? The hints? The clues? Again, Loki was not himself. It was not his plan to attack earth.

When Thor leaves Loki convulsing on the floor, he knew from experience that that stupid disc renders you completely paralyzed and incapacitated. And he doesn’t.give.a.shit. In that moment he is 110% done with Loki. He has no way of knowing if Loki will get out of it, and he doesn’t care. If Loki gets free, fine. If he doesn’t, that’s fine too. Thor also knew that the guards were looking for Loki as well. Didn’t care.

When Thor and Loki were kids, Loki was the bright, sensitive curious one, he wasn’t a bully, or constantly lurking in the shadows waiting for any opportunity to stab Thor. He loved and looked up to Thor, wanted to be just like him, equal to him, to be seen as an equal in his brother’s and father’s eyes. He lived in Thor’s shadow. Shadows are dark, cold, lonely places. 

Thor was big, brash and outspoken, he always had friends, he was constantly surrounded by a support system of love and encouragement. Loki was on the flipside of that. Loki was a trickster and loved mischief, which was playful and innocent and it helped him get attention. When they fought, they fought like you’d expect brothers to fight. Whatever form it was that Loki retaliated in, I’m sure Thor was able to give as good as he got.

When Loki was imprisoned for what was supposed to be forever, Thor didn’t visit him for over a year. He abandoned Loki. Loki literally became just another stolen relic locked up until someone had use of him.

Loki only said “I’ll pay her a visit myself” to goad Thor into fighting him. He had tears running down his cheeks as he said it. 

Loki loved his family more than anything, and he proved it in action and in words.

Loki died to protect Thor and Jane.

And I don’t care what Ragnarok tries to convince the audience about Loki, I’m not buying any of it, I don’t accept it as truth, canon, or anything else.

Loki was a magnificent, beautiful beast, and Marvel could’ve let him live out the rest of the movies like that, but they sold him out. They put him on the chopping block. They took him to slaughter. They had him put down. 

And if they do, by some miracle, try to make up for it, it’s going to take alot. It’s going to have to be something pretty damn big and pretty damn good. And I don’t think they have it in them. My faith in Marvel is shot. Gone.

Take a moment to look at The Dark World from Odin’s point of view The last time Odin saw his son, he watched him trying to kill himself and dying, as he believed 

So now imagine seeing your son after this incident, knowing only a part of what happened while you thought he’s dead but never bothering to ask, and imagine still having the stomach to tell your kid that he wasn’t supposed to live. To the same child you saved, raised and then watched committing suicide. Let that sink in.

I actually cannot see TDW from Odin’s point of view. I cannot see treating my own child that way. I could totally understand wanting to set boundaries with someone who you thought was engaging in self-destructive behavior. Such as you might with a child who is an addict and refuses to seek help. But that is a course of action that is motivated by concern. I do not know what motivated Odin in TDW.

It seems preposterous to me that Loki should receive such a harsh penalty for what is actually a rather tame offense, compared to all the carnage committed by Odin (and even Thor, if you think about it). What a puzzling notion to send to a child. It was almost as though Odin’s goal was to find a reason to lock Loki away, out of fear of what he might be capable of, now that he is aware of his own origins and the depth of his father’s hypocrisies. Oh good, you did a bad thing. Now I can put you away with the other relics.

Odin’s goodbye to Loki in Ragnarok was sheepish. It was like “lol…I’m such a dick.” Part of me wanted Loki to have the opportunity to say “no arguments here.” And then the scene was followed by Thor blaming Loki for Odin’s death and I almost went blind from the eye rolling.

Seriously. Odin does NOT have the right to claim any kind of kinship with Loki, especially when it's right before he dies - it's just so shallow and ineffectual.

When Loki was hanging on the precipice, and needed absolutely any kind of affirmation, he was told "No, Loki". Then after surviving suicide, torture, and brainwashing, he's told that his birthright was to die. But when Odin was about to unleash Hela on the world, and needed Loki to help clean up his mess, suddenly he loved him and called him son.

Thor: The Dark World (2013)

Where Loki sacrifices himself for Jayne and the two brothers actually act like brothers.

Can we just go back to this movie and stay there?

The boat scene in TDW is probably my favorite scene in the film.  @lucianalight, I’d love to hear/read your “dissection” of that scene.  I don’t think that scene has received the scrutiny nor the respect it deserves.  For me, Loki was expressing his profound grief and frustration over Frigga’s murder while, on the surface, it seemed to be a discussion about Thor’s & Jane’s doomed relationship.  

All of this is brilliant! Thank you for getting into the psychology of it because is something I’ve been reading up on a lot lately. I’ve been learning about my own family stuff by proxy with the Brodinson family.

I also recommend “Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents” by Lindsay C. Gibbons. Learning about Attachment Styles has also been incredibly eye-opening for me. (I think Thor’s Secure, Loki’s Anxious. I’m a Avoidant, like Rocket and Yondu.)

I’d also like to add that I think a lot of the time, Thor’s thinking and speaking pretty literally and openly, whereas Loki automatically hides his feelings and can never clearly express what he means.

Loki doesn’t communicate effectively, often letting out passive-aggressive hints that part of him wants Thor to pick up on. Thor just isn’t equipped to pick up on that social style, and that’s not completely his fault.

Thor tries to help Loki and communicate more clearly (at times when he’s not angry at the possibility of loved ones dying that he’s under pressure to protect). Loki’s not accustomed to or comfortable with this directness and vulnerability when he’s been through so much betrayal and trauma that he’s had to build defenses against. And that’s not really his fault he copies that way. It’s a defense mechanism.

I get frustrated when some fans will fight over whether it was Thor or Loki that are wholly to blame for the schism in their relationship. I understand that people’s perceptions come from the different family issues they have in their own lives that they project onto the Cosmic Disaster Bros, because I do the exact same thing. But I wish that people could understand that both Thor and Loki are coping with their Dysfunctional Family in different ways that clash with each other, and with the trauma that they have experienced since, out in the world.

“I love you, my sons”

My real issue with this(apart from the fact that it’s not a fix for all the pain that Odin caused) is that it’s too damn late. Yes, Loki needed to hear it and it’s good that he finally did. But he needed it much sooner.

He needed to hear “I love you too, brother” from Thor before the coronation instead of “Thank you”.

He needed to hear “I love you” from Odin instead of “You are my son”. Because they aren’t the same thing. He needed to be sure of his place and his father’s love for him instead of feeling like a useless relic: “Bring about permanent peace through you. But those plans no longer matter”.

I was waiting the whole time that somebody tells Loki that he is loved but it didn’t happen.

Next time he sees Odin, he is told that “Your birthright was to die!” and he is sentenced to solitary confinement for life. Thor doesn’t visit. He only sees his mother by illusions. None of his family sees it fit to tell him that his mother died. He isn’t even given a chance to say goodbye.

This “I love you” is too late. These words don’t match the actions. They are too little, too late.

Odin, you used that word, but I don’t think it means what you think it means. 

Great analysis (and great reason to watch Loki walk)!

this scene always reminds of something out of a fanfiction

Well gee, Thor. If you have so many QUESTIONS about what HAPPENED to your BROTHER, MAYBE YOU SHOULD FUCKING ASK THEM! 

I know, I know. This is bad writing’s fault, or like bad continuity. Whatever. But like, Thor asks Loki ONCE at the beginning of Avengers. He CLEARLY recognizes that Loki is not acting alone, and hey maybe there’s something more going on. “Who showed you this power? Who controls the would-be king?” yada yada. 

And then he NEVER ASKS AGAIN. WHY??? 

Even if he didn’t ask out of care for his brother, he should have asked because Earth and Asgard’s safety could depend on it. In point of fact, Infinity War might have gone very differently if Thor had bothered to ask Loki what happened. 

But instead, the next time Thor talks to Loki, he goes straight to “you’re not my brother anymore” (massive lie, but so not the point) “I’m going to let you out of here because you happen to have something I need, and once you’ve served your purpose I’m going to lock you right back up and forget about you again.” And he says all this while staring at the evidence that Loki is SHATTERED with grief. Evidence that he demanded to see.

If he had shown one ounce of compassion in that moment and actually ASKED Loki how they ended up here, Loki would have cracked like an egg. Honestly, HONESTLY. This drives me up a wall. It makes NO SENSE. 

AND MAY I ALSO ADD: Thor and every one of his warriors believes Loki will try to betray him. Thor clearly sees it as a certainty. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? HE DOESN’T. Loki does exactly what Thor asks and helps him save Jane, even though he obviously doesn’t think she has much of a chance. He nearly dies protecting her just because Thor cares about her. And then he SERIOUSLY nearly dies protecting Thor. Loki never betrays Thor. He takes advantage of the situation when he somehow doesn’t die from a kursed blade through the chest. But can anyone really blame him for that? I sure can’t. 

Something about this scene really struck me. In this scene, why does Loki deny Frigga? The correct answer is obviously ‘yes.’ It’s obvious he wants to say ‘yes.’ There’s no spiteful pleasure or sarcastic glee in his face when he says it, so he’s not enjoying it. So why does he say no?

Because the way this conversation has been set up, admitting that Frigga is his mother consequently means he admits he was lying (or at least, recants) his denial that Odin is his father. He can’t have one without the other. By yoking the two together in this way, Frigga is basically holding her motherhood of Loki hostage on the condition of Loki admitting that Odin has parental authority over him and that is something Loki will not – can not – do. I’m certain that the equivocation (if not the cruelty inherent in it) was deliberate on Frigga’s part.  Frigga has always played the role of peacemaker in this family – she did in the first movie and she’s doing it again here. She asked the question in that way precisely because she wants to force Loki to admit that Odin is his father. She’s angling to get Odin and Loki to reconcile – whether as part of a campaign to get Loki’s sentence reduced, part of a campaign to get Loki’s services available once more to the crown, or simply aiming to reduce the conflict in their household (or possibly all three.) But to Loki, Odin is not only the man who put him here, but the liar and the hypocrite who fucked up his life in ways beyond counting. Frigga wants him to submit to Odin’s authority not only as a king, but as a parent, meaning that Odin not only has the right to sentence him legally but also to chastise him emotionally and Loki simply can not stand that, not now. So he denies Frigga – even though it is obviously hard and painful for him to do so – because it would hurt him more to have Odin as father than it would help him to have Frigga as mother. Loki said what he did not to be cruel and spiteful to Frigga, but because he was backed into a corner. Which is kind of the story of his life lately, really.

Cousin: Loki’s evil, he doesn’t love anyone Me: Are you sure about that?

Last gif is precious!