what a great day to remember that calling asian characters rat is something you shouldn’t do
thank you
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what a great day to remember that calling asian characters rat is something you shouldn’t do
thank you
“[White readers often believe they are colorblind.] Until they read books featuring nonwhite characters. I once overheard a young white man at a book festival say to his friend, “Have you read the new Kureishi? Same old thing—loads of Indian people.” To which you want to reply, “Have you read the new Franzen? Same old thing—loads of white people.””
— Zadie Smith, Their Eyes Were Watching God: What Does Soulful Mean?
Holly Quinn in Episode 22A of Fansplaining (via fansplaining)
You know what’s exhausting about stanning characters of color? That you can never explore their flaws. You can never appreciate them if they are selfish, angry, hurt, closed-off or cruel; you can’t explore “what would happen if they turned evil”, you can’t write Villain!AUs…
…because inevitably White Fandom™ will actually grab even the smallest sign of them not being a Literal Angel™ to argue that they are canonically evil and the Real Villain™ of the series, or take your What-If AUs and argue that said character is actually turning evil in canon.
And god forbid you go looking for Darkside!AUs, because you will only find piles and piles of garbage written by White Fandom™ just to demonize said character of color in order to prop up their white fave.
also seriously if a character isn’t white, i promise your only descriptive options aren’t food words and varying degrees of tan. it’s okay to say brown. pale brown! light brown! golden brown! medium brown! dark brown! deep brown! so many kinds of brown!
BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN BROWN
This post by writingwithcolor might help in picking good words to use plus reading about why not to use food words! In general if you’re writing a character of color I highly recommend @writingwithcolor
Thank you!
Holly Quinn in Episode 22A of Fansplaining (via fansplaining)
every time someone bashes an interracial couple bc they’re ‘hets’ i can actually hear my brain cells dying
het relationships involving characters of color are not heteronormative and rooting for them to stay platonic isn’t ground breaking or progressive. full stop. end of discourse
One of the most disappointing things about joining a new fandom is finding a wonderful ship with a POC in it and only to find out that, once again, the fandom aggressively only thinks of it as a brotp.
They could fuck and it’s “there was no lead up”. But if two white characters have one conversation there will be 1000 posts on how they are destined for each other.
They could flirt and “they’re just joking”. But if two white characters fight it’s because they like each other.
They could say that they love each other and “it’s just as friends”. But if two white characters say they hate each other they’re actually in love.
I’m tired of seeing more content for two white characters who’ve never met than for ships with POC in it that canonically trust and love each other.
It is ALWAYS about race.
No matter how you twist it, fandom’s collective and constant dislike of characters of color (especially if they’re in relationships/shippes with white male characters) for some reason you “just can’t put your finger on” is directly related to race.
Your race.
Their race.
Race.
From “Iris and Barry are like siblings” despite him being in love with her his whole life to “Sam Wilson would be a more realistic Hydra agent than Tony Stark” to “Lucy Liu doesn’t look like she has the emotional range to play Watson” to “I don’t hate Finn because he’s black, I just think he’s a boring character”, it’s all so very clearly about race and fandom’s issues with it.
If y'all would admit that instead of clinging to every ninny who writes a post about how people who call out fandom’s racism are sjw bullies using buzzwords and coopting language/terms (that um, btw, WE CREATED), maybe we wouldn’t have this problem every time a fan of color goes “hey, this thing fandom does is racist”.
For once fandom, maybe consider listening to fans of color who have issues with the way they and characters that look like them are treated by fandom.
Please.
A very fed up fan
Ok while there is also problems with in Fandoms in how they treat characters of color or how they think of them, but there is also a problem with how writers present the characters which is equally bad. A lot of these characters can be dismissed as boring because of the way they are written. Both people are bad but don’t just blame fans for not liking the character
Look, you clearly came into this conversation from a position where you don’t have to see what fandom does to characters of color. Where you don’t see the erasure.
Every single character of color fandom dismisses is not “more boring” than the white character that fandom rushes to replace them with. That’s an excuse that y'all use to excuse focusing on white dudes all the time and it is TIRED.
Because for people like you, it’s all about offsetting the blame.
You say stuff like “fandom has a race problem, BUT,” and then give a list of reasons why fans of color shouldn’t be livid about the way characters of color are treated.
It’s not the writers’ fault that fandom refuses to flesh main characters of color put the way they do minor white characters.
That’s on y'all.
Because you all choose to a) ignore and erase characters of color in your fanworks; b) not lift up the voices of fans calling for more introspection on the way these characters of color are treated; and c) develop white characters with bit parts and then say that the narrative made them interesting while not making the effort for characters of color.
Look, some of the white characters fandom latches onto weren’t even actual characters. Because y'all find whiteness and white dudes interesting and exciting all the time.
Fandom gave Clint and Coulson personalities and characterization before the MCU did.
They were building up Darcy, who has never met any of the avengers she’s shipped with, from day one.
They will sooner pick some random white dude out of a crowd and give him an absolutely manufactured backstory that places him in relation to their white dude faves, than have him interact with a person of color.
I’ve been in fandom a good, long time. I know the way things work and this thing about “not wanting to focus on charactera of color because the writers make them boring” is bullshit. Because boring, unfleshed out backstories don’t matter when there are white dudes involved, only POC.
Mind you, when we get the rare fleshed out villain of color or antihero, fandom rushes to say that they don’t want to ship them with their white faves because they’re dangerous or some crap like that.
So y'all keep switching your reasons as to why it’s okay that poc are erased in fandom spaces. First we’re boring, then we’re too aggressive, now, white authors claim that they are ~too afraid of criticism~ to write characters they weren’t writing in the first place.
Also: if you came out of SWTFA and decided that the space N azi with like a dozen lines (half of them propaganda and the other half snitching on Kylo Ren) was more interesting than Finn or Poe, damn straight there’s major racism at play. Because he isn’t more interesting. Not by a long shot. He’s basically a bitchy , baby Grand Moff Tarkin…
Instead of coming into a post to repeat tired excuses white fans have been giving to explain away their erasure of characters of color for YEARS, maybe you should’ve considered doing some research and listening to what people of color are saying about this and about how fandom makes them uncomfortable when it comes to race and racism??