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Finrod and Maedhros in the halls or post embodiment talking about Sauron.

Not about the torture or the agony they went through, more like gossiping on how much of a peacock he was, strutting around and bragging about how beautiful he is.

If you came across them in the street you’d think they’re talking about one of those overdressed Tirion nobles, but then you hear “I preferred his torture to his speeches because dear Eru those were a whole new level of pain-“

“Heard all of two before being mauled. Definitely preferred the werewolf.”

Celebrimbor sometimes joins these sessions but he’s got the additional years of having known Annatar and it’s therapeutic to talk about how self absorbed he was to people who really understand. Safe to say Maedhros and Finrod sombrely commiserate the kid on dealing with that for centuries.

“How did you two become friends??”

“I think his vanity numbed my brain.”

“That’s fair.”

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So there’s a note in the Silm saying the Noldolantë was made ‘ere Maglor was lost’ which is why they know about it. So I think it’s safe to say he wrote and finished it before that final silmaril run.

I’m thinking he wrote it and before Elrond and Elros went to Gil Galad, they took a copy each. Maybe Maglor wrote it at their request. Maybe he sent it with them to make sure history wasn’t forgotten. Maybe they wrote it down as he sang in the empty rooms his little brothers once slept.

I think Elrond kept his copy close to his heart, hidden away for a time it would be safe to reveal. I think he would insert verses here and there in his own songs, until the entire thing was split over a hundred different pieces. I think he didn’t reveal it until he got to Rivendell, where he had several copies made.

I think Elros made his copy public, and it was well known across Numenor for many a year, until like many other things, it was lost in the Drowning. Possibly a little before when they wanted to distance themselves from the elves. I think it didn’t come back to Gondor and Arnor until Aragorn became king, a song he’d heard since childhood carefully transcribed in Elrond’s own hand.

With three verses added at the end.

One for Maedhros, lost to the fire.

One for Maglor, lost at sea.

And a final verse for Celebrimbor, caught in the Doom despite his kindness.

No wonder the Noldolantë didn’t make it into Pengolodh’s writings.

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“Kanafinwë Makalaurë Maglor Fëanorion.”

Despite the dangerous tone that had once sent Morgoth’s armies fleeing, Maglor smiled innocently.

“Mhmm?”

Maedhros turned fully towards the younger, a thunderous look darkening the fair face. He held the phone to Maglor’s face.

“What. In Eru’s name. Is this.” He ground out.

“Fanfiction, brother dear. The name gives it away.” Maglor said with an offhanded wave, laughter threatening to break out despite the elder’s ever increasing rage.

Maedhros snapped.

“It’s MORGOTH’S WORK, THAT’S WHAT” He jumped up from the sofa, pacing back and forth, and Maglor was suddenly thankful that the walls were... somewhat soundproofed. “WHAT DEVILRY IS THIS THAT PORTRAYS THE EVENTS OF THE FIRST AGE IN SUCH A- A FRIVOLOUS MANNER-”

A string of curses followed as Maedhros ranted on and on about the inaccuracies, and Maglor fell off the sofa, clutching his stomach laughing. Maedhros glared daggers at him.

“You truly are the spawn of Morgoth, you know that?”

“Now now Maitimo, better not let Ammë hear you talk like that,” he replied, still laughing.

“I hate you.”

“You love me really.”

“I’m going to leave you here.”

“No you won’t.”

“I will.”

“You won’t.”

Maedhros frowned, crossing his arms as he stared at his younger brother lying on the floor, one leg on the sofa and his hair splayed wildly across the carpet. Maglor gave another innocent grin. Maedhros sighed.

“I will.”

Maglor’s grinned triumphantly, the spark in his eyes, so dull when Maedhros had arrived, finally growing brighter. Despite the reservations of his brother’s sanity, Maedhros gave a small smile back and dropped on the floor, leaning against the sofa

“But I’m warning you now. Anymore of that... whatever you want to call it, and I’ll toss you into the ocean myself. See how Ulmo treats you.”

“You’re the one who said he was first to appeal on my behalf,” Maglor retorted, “but fine. I suppose the last thing I need is to be done for another kinslaying.“

Maglor laughed again at his brother’s long suffering groan then sat up, a gentle smile taking the place of his grin.

“I’ve missed you Russandol.”

AKA: After several Ages, Maedhros is healed enough to be reembodied and given permission to hunt down his stubborn brother. Maglor isn’t quite ready to leave… but that’s ok. Maedhros can wait.

He could do without the horrors of modern day technology though.

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I have this hc that Sauron’s obsession with vanity led him to spend years studying Maedhros’ features and trying to emulate them. When he couldn’t get it right, the proportions always a little off, red hair never deep enough, he took his anger out on Mae and when that option was gone, tried to pull from others also renown for their beauty instead.

Fast forward a few centuries and turns out all that work wasn’t entirely useless. And Sauron knows exactly what to do with the features he was able to recreate. Weaving them into his new face, the line of Maitimo’s smile, the set of his eyebrows, the crease of his eyes, he puts just enough to be familiar, but not enough to set off any alarms.

Celebrimbor doesn’t know *why* he trusts Annatar so easily, just that he’s got a good feeling about him. The Maia reminds him of someone he can’t quite put a finger on, but it’s a good association and he doesn’t think on it too deeply. Grows to call him a brother in all but blood.

Of course we all know how that ends. And the last thing Celebrimbor sees is his eldest Uncle’s smile, a mockery of the warmth it should hold as Sauron finally ends his torture.

(Elrond, on the other hand, never saw Maitimo who used to laugh easily and play silly games with children. Only grim Maedhros. The gentle features Sauron steals are alien to him. A stranger with too many familiar features he can’t quite place, twisted the wrong way, leaving him deeply unsettled. It’s why he immediately tells Gil Galad to send Annatar away, hiding trembling hands in his sleeves.)

Makes perfect sense! If Maedhros was really The Prettiest, Sauron would be so jealous seeing him all the time during Mae's imprisonment in Angband. He would be OBSESSED by recreating that look. Until inevitably admitting it's impossible.

It would also explain why some would love Annatar so easily, as Maedhros was beloved by Fëanorians. I know in Lindon probably nobody would associate Maedhros with good things (except for Elrond, of course), but as you said, the resemblance could be really subtle - enough for Fëanorians to unconsciously notice it, but not enough for the others, who would just see a pretty face, actually a VERY pretty face.

What I love the most about this idea is the fact that Elrond wouldn't need any visions to recognize there's something wrong with Annatar. While Elrond's life is basically "A Tragedy: To Be Continued", this would be a perfect example of bad things that ultimately led to something good (just as Glum stole the Ring from Frodo at Mount Doom and, without meaning to, caused its destruction). It would be enough to just look at Annatar, his experience allowing him to recognize this stranger's twisted nature - something that used to be good, but no longer is; although Elrond wouldn't be able to put a finger on it, or he would think it wrong for different reasons, the fact still stands.

(Also, it's quite sad that Elrond would consider cheerful Maedhros unsettling, as he never got to see Maedhros in Aman, before all the darkness become ever-present in the life of Noldors.)

I think that Tolkien himself would approve.

Yesss exactly!! Love your analysis into it!

Also Maedhros was probably known as trustworthy, and I believe that would reflect in his face if you know what I mean. Throughout Aman pre-drama he was known across the land for being mature, kind, and fair. The kind of guy you could leave valuables with and come and collect them in perfect condition. Or go to for advice and know you’re getting an honest response. Even in Beleriand he lost the softness but retained that trustworthy nature, which is how he was able to build the Union for the Nirnaeth.

Sauron would mimic that and mostly succeed, at least in giving that kind of warm trustworthy vibe he had in Aman that you have to be Very Good to see through. He is a deceiver after all and has been doing this probably as long as elves have existed, if not longer.

I like to think there were many elves across ME confused why Gil Galad’s herald immediately refused Annatar’s aid. Some even thought it was due to a Fëanorian upbringing until Celebrimbor welcomed Annatar and silenced those rumours.

(Yep. Maedhros really did try for Elrond and Elros, but he only really smiled at most, and usually with his eyes rather than his mouth. Even that was shadowed in agony and grief, especially with the elves even now inexperienced with dealing with constant loss, and not knowing how to help.

I like to think it’s what really pushed Elrond and Elros to become healers before warriors.

Sorry I’ve gone off topic, these poor elves give me all the feels 😅)

I love YOUR analysis! Don't forget YOU started it😉

I can vividly imagine Maedhros as the beloved and wise prince and people adored him. And yeah, it's really said to know all the things he survived and how his life became more and more miserable.

I bet that there were all kinds of rumour about Elrond and not just during the Second Age. Actually, I think it started with Elwing's escape and that it has never stopped.

Don't apologize, Tolkien was master of complicated situations and relationships. And anything concerning Elrond gives me feels. He just deserves a break❤️‍🩹

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I have this hc that Sauron’s obsession with vanity led him to spend years studying Maedhros’ features and trying to emulate them. When he couldn’t get it right, the proportions always a little off, red hair never deep enough, he took his anger out on Mae and when that option was gone, tried to pull from others also renown for their beauty instead.

Fast forward a few centuries and turns out all that work wasn’t entirely useless. And Sauron knows exactly what to do with the features he was able to recreate. Weaving them into his new face, the line of Maitimo’s smile, the set of his eyebrows, the crease of his eyes, he puts just enough to be familiar, but not enough to set off any alarms.

Celebrimbor doesn’t know *why* he trusts Annatar so easily, just that he’s got a good feeling about him. The Maia reminds him of someone he can’t quite put a finger on, but it’s a good association and he doesn’t think on it too deeply. Grows to call him a brother in all but blood.

Of course we all know how that ends. And the last thing Celebrimbor sees is his eldest Uncle’s smile, a mockery of the warmth it should hold as Sauron finally ends his torture.

(Elrond, on the other hand, never saw Maitimo who used to laugh easily and play silly games with children. Only grim Maedhros. The gentle features Sauron steals are alien to him. A stranger with too many familiar features he can’t quite place, twisted the wrong way, leaving him deeply unsettled. It’s why he immediately tells Gil Galad to send Annatar away, hiding trembling hands in his sleeves.)

Makes perfect sense! If Maedhros was really The Prettiest, Sauron would be so jealous seeing him all the time during Mae's imprisonment in Angband. He would be OBSESSED by recreating that look. Until inevitably admitting it's impossible.

It would also explain why some would love Annatar so easily, as Maedhros was beloved by Fëanorians. I know in Lindon probably nobody would associate Maedhros with good things (except for Elrond, of course), but as you said, the resemblance could be really subtle - enough for Fëanorians to unconsciously notice it, but not enough for the others, who would just see a pretty face, actually a VERY pretty face.

What I love the most about this idea is the fact that Elrond wouldn't need any visions to recognize there's something wrong with Annatar. While Elrond's life is basically "A Tragedy: To Be Continued", this would be a perfect example of bad things that ultimately led to something good (just as Glum stole the Ring from Frodo at Mount Doom and, without meaning to, caused its destruction). It would be enough to just look at Annatar, his experience allowing him to recognize this stranger's twisted nature - something that used to be good, but no longer is; although Elrond wouldn't be able to put a finger on it, or he would think it wrong for different reasons, the fact still stands.

(Also, it's quite sad that Elrond would consider cheerful Maedhros unsettling, as he never got to see Maedhros in Aman, before all the darkness become ever-present in the life of Noldors.)

I think that Tolkien himself would approve.

Yesss exactly!! Love your analysis into it!

Also Maedhros was probably known as trustworthy, and I believe that would reflect in his face if you know what I mean. Throughout Aman pre-drama he was known across the land for being mature, kind, and fair. The kind of guy you could leave valuables with and come and collect them in perfect condition. Or go to for advice and know you’re getting an honest response. Even in Beleriand he lost the softness but retained that trustworthy nature, which is how he was able to build the Union for the Nirnaeth.

Sauron would mimic that and mostly succeed, at least in giving that kind of warm trustworthy vibe he had in Aman that you have to be Very Good to see through. He is a deceiver after all and has been doing this probably as long as elves have existed, if not longer.

I like to think there were many elves across ME confused why Gil Galad’s herald immediately refused Annatar’s aid. Some even thought it was due to a Fëanorian upbringing until Celebrimbor welcomed Annatar and silenced those rumours.

(Yep. Maedhros really did try for Elrond and Elros, but he only really smiled at most, and usually with his eyes rather than his mouth. Even that was shadowed in agony and grief, especially with the elves even now inexperienced with dealing with constant loss, and not knowing how to help.

I like to think it’s what really pushed Elrond and Elros to become healers before warriors.

Sorry I’ve gone off topic, these poor elves give me all the feels 😅)

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What do you think would’ve happened if instead of the three Cs, Maedhros and Maglor had been the ones to fight Dior?

I mean we know they’re much more skilled and less bloodthirsty and rash than the rest of their brothers. So here’s an AU:

I think we’d see Mae and Mags come out on top, and assuming they’re out of the main hall, the rest of their brothers would probably make it out of Doriath alive. Elured and Elurin make it out with Elwing.

With all seven still around and watching each other’s backs, I imagine Sirion would be much the same, all all them surviving. The addition of Elwing’s brothers and their soldiers turning on them, *might* turn the tables just enough to kill a couple of Fëanorions, probably Celegorm and Curufin who are still bitter about Luthien and Dior. But I feel it’s more likely due to inexperience, Elured and Elurin are killed, not necessarily by the Fëanorions themselves.

The silmaril ends up with Elwing and we get the same situation of Maedhros and Maglor asking for it back and Elwing throwing herself off the cliff. Mae and Mags genuinely do not want to be here but the letters were refused and the Oath calls. Elwing probably knows her brothers were killed by word of mouth or seeing it herself and legged it.

Enter Elrond and Elros who’d have a more interesting (and fun) time of things with 5-7 sons of Fëanor around. Maedhros would back Maglor on caring for the twins though, less consumed by the oath with all his little brothers alive and kicking. And in canon he did go searching for Dior’s sons. Caranthir probably doesn’t really have an opinion on them, Amrod and Amras are willing to follow their brothers’ lead on things (also when are they ever gonna have a chance to see identical twins again. I think they’d get along pretty well.) I don’t see any of them being particularly hateful towards the kids. Celegorm and Curufin seem to be most susceptible to the Oath and giving in to their nastier sides might be a bit more of a problem, but there’s enough brothers to keep an eye on them. And I think they’d warm up eventually, reluctantly though it may be. Curufin was a father first, remember, it’s more natural for him to care than not.

Safe to say by the time Elrond and Elros go to Gil Galad, they’re very well trained in all manner of things 😂

As for the fate of the Fëanorions, they wouldn’t go for the last ditch attempt Mae and Mags did. From the eldest’s perspective, there’s too much to lose. I want to say the stones might be passed off to them, if only to prove a point, and whoever picks them up would no doubt be burned, but there’s no suicides. There’s no endless lamentation.

In reality though there’s probably still a battle by the chest, the oath awakened and clawing with the stones so close. There might be more of a push to bring them back to Valinor to stand trial, but they’re a force to be reckoned with and Eönwë knows they’d rather die than be dragged back. The Fëanorions are let go with the stones, but instead of being tossed away as the Valar expect, the chest is kept and they go on.

With the oath mostly fulfilled much of the weight across their fëa is gone, and Curufin and Celegorm head out to keep an eye on Celebrimbor. Elros might have a temporary tagalong in Maedhros and Caranthir (new kingdom needs someone with experience to get the economy up and running.) Maglor and both Ambarussa keep their distant eye on Elrond.

(Annatar didn’t expect the seven biggest pains in his Master’s back to greet him at Eregion’s gate, two Silmarils in tow, burning him to the core. Celebrimbor doesn’t know whether to be horrified or thankful. Back in Lindon, Elrond - the one who tipped them off - is cackling and Gil Galad is Concerned TM but decides he’s better off not knowing. His cousins are insane on the best of days.)

Alternatively, Elured and Elurin perhaps remembering how reluctant Maedhros and Maglor were, how Maedhros pleaded with their father to just return the stone so this could all *end*, immediately send the silmaril back when the letter comes. Or maybe they’re just cooler headed and see the logic of returning the stone. Things settle. The Valar do eventually get involved. Silmaril two and three are regained then reclaimed by the brothers as mentioned above. They might burn. They might reject the holders. But the oath is fulfilled and that’s all that matters in the end.

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Someone was like Maedhros has Eldest Daughter Syndrome and honestly? He totally does. Like I’m thinking specifically the kind you get as the eldest daughter in a brown family. I say this as a younger sister of That Eldest Daughter TM from an Indian family

Like tell me Finwëan drama isn’t prime Indian Family Drama TM down to the brothers fighting over their father’s inheritance. Just what goes down in Aman woudk make the plot for one of those 1000+ episode series’ with all the dramatic camera flashes 💀

Anyway, Mae sits very well in the eldest granddaughter role.

Eldest son/nephew/grandson who balances all the complicated politics and low-key raises his siblings and cousins. Admired and held as a role model for them. But also overworked and too tired for all this. Probably the one who stands up to the fathers/uncles/grandparents on behalf of everyone but himself.

(That’s what Maglor, Fingon, and Finrod do as the collective Second Oldest.)

Also this whole situation with the crown and competition being because of the Dad’s Side is also a very Indian, and from what I hear an Asian/Arab, thing 😂

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