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The Susan twist isn't over!!

She's the Doctor's child. Dad a postman? Mom a dinner lady? That's TenRose coding 👀

She's the Meta-Crisis Tenth Doctor and Rose Tyler's kid crossing dimensions and scattering herself in time and space.

Just like her mother.

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okay so the pantheon of discord we now have a list for (the ones we've seen before in italics):

  • the toymaker: the god of games
  • the trickster: the god of traps
  • the maestro: the god of music
  • reprobate: the god of spite
  • the mara: the god of beasts
  • "the threefold deity of malice and mischief and misery"
  • "gods of skin and shame and secrets"
  • incensor: the goddess of disaster
  • her children Doubt and Dread
  • sutekh: the god of death, "the one who waits"

actually let me elaborate on where we've seen all of these guys before:

  • the toymaker: The Celestial Toymaker (1964), The Giggle (2023)
  • the trickster: SJA: Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane? (2007), The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith (2008), The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith (2009)
  • . the trickster's brigade: Turn Left (2008) / Torchwood: Immortal Sins (2011)
  • the maestro: The Devil's Chord (2024)
  • the mara: Kinda (1982), Snakedance (1983)
  • . *The fairies from Torchwood: Small Worlds (2006) were believed to be part mara by jack harkness
  • sutekh: Pyramids of Mars (1975), The Legend of Ruby Sunday (2024)

just living it up in my neil gaiman–doctor who–good omens circle

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Legend of Ruby Sunday Spoiler Thoughts!!

so yeah Sutekh is huge but what's ringing my bell right now is

The Doctor telling us point-blank his children were born in the future and he hasn't even had Susan's parent yet.

That is exploding MAJOR lore. I'm SCREAMING. We could potentially see the Doctor's family forming in real time. (Do I want to see that?? IDK but it's possible now!) The Doctor's kid could be ANYONE, the Doctor could meet them all grown and only later find out how he had them.

The First Doctor didn't necessarily have children!!! That's HUGE!

And on another note: Ruby DEFINITELY dropped herself off at the Church. The CCTV camera was 66 meters away, said Kate Lethbridge-Stewart. That's 73 yards!! That's why she couldn't see her face! IDK if Ruby is Susan's child, or the Doctor's, or maybe Sutekh's (!) and she wanted to give herself a normal human life instead of being a god.

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definitely a metaphor for grief or mental illness or something right? like its always there with you no matter how much you try and run away from it, and even if you do what you feel like you “should” do to move on from it. constantly affecting your life and your relationships etc. and you’re always waiting for it to serve a purpose in your life and have some big greater meaning but it just. doesn’t. and it’s still there and you have to learn to live with it

The best part about this take is the realization that RTD is putting the ocean of layers in trauma symbolism and metaphor into the companion this time, not the Doctor. This is Ruby's story and Ruby's trauma, and the whole series is going to unfold around her.

Also, it's a metaphor for grief and I just KNOW that the reason why RTD felt like this was one of the best things he's written is because that grief is his grief on display, when he lost his husband. 73 Yards is RTD's Heaven Sent, and knowing that makes it hit different.

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okay the new episode has people poking my sleeping special interest like a bear and it was about time to wake it from hibernation anyway so here are some fun facts about welsh fairies

  • it's spelled fairy. it's always spelled fairy. not faerie, faery, fae, or fey. fairy. please. or tylwyth teg if you want to be proper about it
  • fairies are not inherently malevolent. they work by their own rules that sometimes don't make sense to humans but there are rules, if you pay attention.
  • yes fairies will punish you for doing something they don't want you to do
  • they will also reward you for doing things they do want you to do
  • fairy rings are circles of green grass. they sometimes how up as a different shade of green than the grass around it and are generally markers of where fairies dance, as well as portals to the fairy realm. mushrooms aren't really a thing for that in welsh folklore.
  • string and bones and flowers are man-made and possibly supposed to bind or protect against fairies (though i haven't seen anything quite like what we see in the episode described in any of my sources) but generally breaking one of those doesn't immediately anger fairies, just lets them in to affect whoever put the ward up in the first place. that's not called a fairy circle.
  • changelings exist in welsh folklore. have fun with your theories.
  • fairies will generally let you leave the fairy world if you ask nicely. yes even if you've eaten the food and drank the drinks
  • however time moves differently so when you come back you might be super old and/or turn to dust the moment someone touches you
  • dancing is a different thing tho. they don't exactly want you to stay dancing with them until you die of exhaustion but like that's on you my dude get your friends to help you
  • if you broke fairy rules like kicking them out of their meadow to build a castle they will count eight* generations** and come back to turn that castle into a lake and drown everyone inside. you have been warned (repeatedly. usually by old ladies and/or bards and/or birds or sometimes just. A Voice™)
  • * the number of generations can and does vary but in welsh folklore it's generally 8 that's an important number, not 3 or 7.
  • ** also the way generations are counted is. weird. idk if it's that i'm bad at math or bad at welsh or that the book i read explaining this is over 100 years old but i don't think i fully got how many generations this actually is.
  • oh and they only wait if you beg enough otherwise they kill you now
  • so basically. no getting trapped in the fairy world as punishment. they just kill you
  • personally i think the closest thing in welsh folklore to that old woman is a weird lady but even that isn't a great fit
  • yeah fairies bend time and space to always be far away from you if they want to but that's generally because they're trying to avoid you not following you at a distance

i am fully aware rtd probably couldn't care less about any of this. he definitely didn't do the work that i did to learn all this and incorporating this into your theories is probably shooting yourself in the foot as far as actually being correct goes. HOWEVER i do think it's more interesting and fun this way :) theories are gonna be wrong anyway might as well respect the culture that's inspiring them while we're at it yeah?

i will cite my sources if anyone asks but i doubt many people care to read hundreds of pages of edwardian non fiction novels just to fact check me. trust me on this guys

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is it just me, or does that sound like a reminder a director would give an actor right as they’re about to launch into a scene?

“and, from the top, Ruby, you’re standing in the street, on the phone to your own mother.”

or stage directions in a screenplay: RUBY, standing in the STREET, on the phone to MOTHER.

nothing to do with me.

we’ve been thinking susan twist is “The Director”, but what if she’s not? what if she’s a helpful member of the crew, trying to get through to Ruby and the Doctor in whatever ways she can; and The Director is actually Mrs Flood?

oh I do like this. Mrs Flood is the Director, and we are the Viewers, or even us the Audience is the One Who Waits, because we're always waiting for the next episode, the next season, the next Doctor, the next Show. The Toymaker is afraid of us because ultimately WE dictate his existence and survival.

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like I understand the subtext that ruby is deeply terrified that there is something wrong with her that she doesn't understand but it's obvious enough to everyone else to make them abandon her just like her birth mother. I GET that. that's awesome. I also get that older ruby is like, literally a ghost and/or some changeling creature and that alone is scary enough to make people run. that's fine. HOWEVER. I feel like seeing a ghost isn't a strong enough reason to make carla abandon her and Say That. again I got the subtext reason for that but on screen, main text, what on earth was causing that? also what were the hand motions about? I spent the whole episode thinking maybe it was sign language but then ruby never bothered to learn sign so it definitely wasn't lol. LOVED this ep so much but that's what I'm hung up on

I think a lot of the mysteries of this episode can be answered by knowing the narrative rules of folklore. Horrific things happen in folk tales. Going mad because we entered too close to the spirit world is par for the course, as is terrible fates for children.

In the original Grimms fairy tales, it wasn't stepmothers who did awful things in these stories. It was mothers. Grimms adapted the tales to suit the audience he was publishing for, and erased this darker history in the tales we now know so well.

73 Yards felt like folklore through and through, for so many things. The horror, the fairy ring, the pub stories. But most importantly for its commitment to leaving the unexplainable (the supernatural) unexplained.

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Why did everyone get so terrified upon meeting the Semperdistans?

Because she let them feel the horrifying knowledge of the truly Supernatural. It's the Terror of the Unknown, embodied in Ruby Sunday (as a paradox or otherworldly being herself)

I give thee Lovecraft:

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."

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Love the dual imagery of the old woman. How she represents both the previous generations that dealt with Mad Jack the first time, and the current generation worrying what their future will be. Will the older version of me look on me kindly? Is that even the older version of me, does that person even survive? Or is it only the past, silently watching us walk into destruction?

The old woman appeared after the the circle was broken, yes, but also after Ruby became aware of her own mortality due to the Doctor’s slip of the tongue.

As a representation of the previous generations, the woman is distant and offputting. Not even the oldest folks in the pub are worried about Mad Jack anymore, and when Ruby tries to bring other people in, tries to let those now-dead generations speak, Ruby becomes the problem.

She’s left to embark on this (in retrospect) decades-long mission virtually alone, getting involved in politics, taking calls, holding coats, pulling every strategic lever available to her even if it means working for this terrible man. She has to, because she’s one of the few people who fully recognize the danger he poses.

And both the past and herself-from-the-future are watching.

This right here. The thematic layers is what makes this episode so compelling and probs why RTD called it one of the best things he's ever written.

That explains why this plot works: the mixing of current politics and ancient evils, because fascism and nationalism and bigotry isn't new, it just comes in different guises in different eras, and it's the evil we all face.

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