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ok i’m allowed to poke fun cause i’m a short guy, anyways jim gordon is shorter than most men in gotham which does make me giggle juuuuust a little when they like, do a scene where he’s supposed to be intimidating some rando bad guy of the week but if they pan out for just A SECOND you’ll immediately notice the height diff. like this isn’t even me being like haha men aren’t supposed to be short but it’s rather funny for like the archetype that jim is. like, the only other male character he’s taller than is oswald and oswald’s shorter than like, everybody

someone reblogged this again, and looking at it again reminded me that this scene is gay as shit . why is jim doing that. “intimidation” aight then….

(totally staning jim just because of shit like that) 

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lalaurelia

Gotham Rewatch 1x02

It’s a slower episode, but still setting the mood and some important things.

Jim and Barbara were really wonderful in the beginning, I miss that;  and I totally agree .. it is such a shame that they never did much with Jim´s past in the army, there´s also this thing where the military is meant to be the “”heroes”” fighting the enemy, and it ought to be just like that with police work, after all it´s criminals doing bad illegal stuff ... but then that idea Jim had of good cops fighting bad criminals just so quickly jumps out the window and still he clings to that concept despite the place hes in  good point about the Wayne social circle ... I never really put much thought into that but it´s indeed odd that there wouldn´t just be more people around .. (or like even if they indeed lived that secluded ...  just someone with not so nice motives trying to fill a spot to get to the wealth)

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blackswan7x

I’m not saying Jim Gordon is a sub, but he does get tied up a lot.

TFW you've tricked an entire underworld into giving you exactly what you crave

I'm not saying I've headcannon Jim as a total sub who loves being manhandled, tied, and subservient I'm bed but, I just love the idea that after a long day of always being in charge and big boss he likes getting bossed around 🖤

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honestmrdual

the most hilarious thing about gotham is that it still trying to show gordon as some kind of moral guide to everyone in this city. “what captain gordon gonna do?”, “what Captain James Gordon would think about this?”. honestly? i have no idea?? this character have the most double standarts of all double standarts in world. he literally can do anything and this anything is gonna fit his moral anyway. hey, remember the time when he tells his ex that she’s breaking the law and he’s gonna put her in jail for that?? but then when she escaped he just forget about this?? and then he came to her and tells her how much he still loves her?? also he tortured some prisoner in gcpd at the same time?? but before that he tells bullock do not torture this prisoner?? not because, you know, it’s wrong to torture people, but just because there was a press near them?? and this bullshit is just two episodes with him. he literally can do the most fucked up thing ever and yet at the end of the day he will be praised more than jesus himself and like??? what the fuck???

AH YES the designated hero syndrome, the righteous man that can do no wrong no matter what he does, or so the narrative wants to claim, just until it takes a turn and tries to convince us he has a oh so dark and dangerous inner core or fiber of being .. like no TetchVirus!Lee I´m not quite willing to believe Jim actually enjoys murder or whatever evil twisted thing, but it would be neat if we could instead address his actual faults, maybe .. the things where he´s taking liberties he´d never grant others and like all that above ....

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sunlitroom

Random lengthy Gotham meta time.

There’s a gif set of Oswald visiting Jim and Barbara’s apartment doing the rounds.  It’s the little scene where Barbara tells Oswald that Jim never tells her anything, and that he never introduces her to any of his friends.

Looking at it made me think of one of my perceptions of Jim, which is that he’s not actually too great socially.  He’s not especially good at making friends, and probably doesn’t have a particularly wide circle of friends.  After we find out about Ed, and what he’s done, you’d expect absolute anger and contempt from Jim.  But that’s not what we get.  We get, instead, the same thing, rather plaintively repeated from Jim

I was your friend

I considered you a friend

Neither statement is thrown angrily at Ed.  He’s not bitter, or accusing.  The first sounds almost confused, resigned.  It takes place when they confront each other in the woods.  Ed is laughing about how easy it was to frame Jim, and Jim just replies, quietly, ‘I was your friend’.  Of course Jim would have trusted him, and wouldn’t have expected him to deliberately hurt him, because they were friends.  

Jim tries repeatedly to find a way to explain Ed’s betrayal away

How did you become this?

When Ed tells him this is just the truth of who he always was, Jim replies

I don’t believe that

And then, finally, in an attempt to somehow absolve Ed of his actions

You’re insane

Even Ed points out that the latter explanation is simply the one Jim finds easier to deal with.  The notion that Ed did this because he is unwell allows Jim to still keep hold of the idea that their friendship was sincere.

 The second is downright sad.  In the car, waiting for Kathryn to show up and take Ed to the Court of Owls, Jim talks about the night that they all had dinner together.  He says that Lee had to twist his arm (which ties in with what Barbara says about not getting to wear her fancy ‘night out’ clothes anymore: Jim is not the most social of guys) - but that he enjoyed the time they spent together.  And again, there’s that plaintive I considered you a friend.

With that last instance, there’s no reason to share this with Ed right now.  Jim is exactly where he needs to be in the context of his larger mission at this point.  He needs to keep the Court of Owls sweet in order to save the city.  The Court wants him to deliver Ed.  Ed is demanding to be delivered to them or he’ll continue to wreak havoc.  

Jim can solve both problems - but here he is, looking suspiciously red-eyed, trying to remind a man with a gun pointed at him that he once saw him as a friend.  What will that achieve? What would he have done if Ed had wavered?  If Ed had lowered his gun, and changed his mind?  Would Jim have turned the car round and got them both the hell out of there as fast as possible?  It would have put him in a very tricky position with the Court, but I honestly believe that Jim would have done it.  Despite everything that’s happened between them, all Jim is looking for here is an excuse not to hand Ed over.

This, in turn, made me think about the times where Ed just hasn’t been quite able to pull the trigger on Jim.

The first is when they confront one another in the woods.  After Barnes, Harvey and all the back-up has appeared, Ed has his gun pointed at Jim.

Now.  The game is up at this point.  Ed knows that he’s thoroughly caught.  There’s no real reason not to kill Jim right now - even if it’s only out of rage and frustration.  Ed is done, anyway.  

But he doesn’t.  He points the gun for a couple of seconds, he stares at him… and then there’s a strangled snarl of frustration as he drops it and runs.

We see him do exactly the same thing in The Primal Riddle, when he brings Aubrey James to GCPD.   At about 2m11s, Jim reaches into his pocket.  I glanced back at my recap to see if the same thing occurred to me at the time:

Ed aims his gun.  Jim reaches for his pocket.  Ed reverts for a moment to GoodEd in terms of flustered impotence – reduced to yelling
Don’t!
(An aside. And isn’t that interesting.  I think it’s unclear whether or not Ed doesn’t want Jim to go for his gun because it’s interfering with his image of how this would go; or because if he shoots Jim he risks losing the information he needs; or simply because – somewhere – there’s a part of Ed that doesn’t want to shoot Jim.)

I honestly think it’s the latter.  Yes - it bruises Ed’s ego when things don’t go to plan, but the plan’s already ruined at that point, because the detonator didn’t work.  What’s bothering him here is the prospect of Jim forcing his hand by going for his gun, because - in spite of everything - there’s still some part of Ed that sees Jim as a friend, and doesn’t want to shoot him.  He couldn’t bring himself to do it in the woods, and he can’t bring himself to do it here, either.

(It’s all much sillier in tone - but I think the same would go for season four, when Ed has Jim in his squishing machine.  If Ed really wants Jim gone at that point- he just shoots him.  If he insists on torture, then maybe choosing a more private location would have worked.  This is just begging to be caught and stopped before he crosses the point of no return)

I do like it, the idea that neither of them is entirely willing to relinquish their friendship.  I like even more that it’s partly down to the fact that neither of them does well with making friends, and so they’ll stubbornly cling to those they genuinely felt friendship for at one point.  They’ll merrily punch each other in the face whenever they meet, but they’ll be damned if they’ll shoot each other.

Thoughts, anyone who is still up for any Gotham meta?  @dashokeypokey@marcceh?  Anyone else?

Oh this sent me thinking in a couple directions :D I´d even say this unwillingness of EDWARD NYGMA & JIM GORDON to entirely “relinquish their friendship” still is present in eg. 5x5 (Pena Dura) in that glorious book trap scene. Jim and Eduardo Dorrance are there to arrest Ed for blowing up haven but all it takes is a “No, no Jim I can explain” for Jim´s face to totally change and his whole being reaching for and very much accepting that possibility of that no being true, which is also very much audible in his voice when he hopefully says “explain”, just to switch back a moment later to a “You son of a bitch. You actually did it?“ which again is not quite fully filled with anger over haven,  a huge portion of it is a tone of disbelief “you really did it? I couldn´t believe it ... “  Jim then still has an open mind when Ed starts with an explanation, It even looks like he´s lowering his gun a little but with Eduardo starting to talk he puts it back up immediately .. but keeps listening.  Ed in turn is appealing to how Jim knows him, knows how he is, knows his faults and issues and I´d in light of this great meta post really like to know how this would have played out without Eduardo Dorrance present,  I don´t think Edward trying to explain and reason at first ist merely a distraction tactic to get his trap set up, I could even see him coming with Jim if Jim manages to convince Ed he believes him and they´d investigate, or that they´d right go into investigating together? ..   would Jim do either of that, if Eduardo wasn´t present? Would Ed have enough trust in Jim to not run off if the dangerous element of Eduardo and the military hadn´t been present? Ed saying  *he* can prove it, just needs a little bit more time certainly points to him thinking he´s on his own on this matter but maybe Jim could have made him believe that he´d investigate in the right direction, that they both want the real culprit, 

Ed trying to frame Jim and this being revealed also kind of challenged Jim´s tendency to sort people in criminals/not criminals, and it´s kinda good to see that a personal bond and friendship and maybe loyalty in some way can bring nuance into this for Jim,  also I feel there might be an aspect of guilt for Jim, guilt about not having noticed, not maybe having helped a friend before things got out of hand like that etc.  

Would it be fitting to say Jim´s first and foremost best friends with his mission work? He´s certainly shown social skills, arguably leadership skills as well, he can be a teamplayer and cooperate with people both of higher and lower “rank” in a rather affable manner as long as everyone is on the same righteous page, but yeah I don´t think he´s that big on your common variety of friendship social skills as in either opening up and connecting to someone else on a deeper personal level or just having a more casual bond that embraces the very much enjoyable merit of non weighty lighthearted connection, also as the second mentioned scene shows he IS capable of those but a consistency in interactions and bonding that a lot of friendships just seem to need don´t seem to come easily to Jim? 

As far as I remember even one of the first interactions of Jim Gordon and BARBARA KEAN we see in 1x2 is when they discuss troubles at Jim´s work, the complicated situation with the kidnapped children and Barbara is rather open about it, understanding where Jim´s having difficulties, Jim voices dissatisfaction about the GCPD keeping quiet about it and he can´t change it but Barbara steps in, she can and she does, Jim´s caught in the limbo of that was wrong but also the right thing to do ... and I just still kinda think if he´d been more open with Barbara this could have been a really good relation and friendship  And it really makes me wonder about how they actually meet, what they talked about other than Jim´s work, what did they bond over just as private individuals,  (I´m probably five steps too far off here but could there be something tying back to the military, I have the impression that this can be an environment that can form rather tight bonds in certain situations, teams with people that work together seamlessly, even enjoy each others company,  but while there sure might be respect and loyalty keeping some bond in civil life there might not be all that much that actually connects two characters, just the people as persons ) Sometimes a situation, an environment can be the glue between people and sometimes it´s their personalities (and both is very valuable) 

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blackswan7x

what’s your favorite canon moment of riddlegordon?

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Honestly, when Ed hugs Jim in season 1. He awkwardly comes up to Jim and when offered a handshake he instead dives into him for a hug. The way Ed even hunches over to full on rest his head on Jim’s shoulder. Then just as quickly as he does it he pulls away and runs off as fast as he can in embarrassment. Jim looks bewildered and stares after him, but also seems fully intrigued. Then Harvey smirking and saying to Jim, “You should take him with you.” It’s just pure fluff and they don’t get that very often so I love it.

A close second is Jim getting the “nothing” riddle and Ed’s look of pure joy. Someone actually listened to his riddle, understood it, and answered it instead of telling Ed to shut up or ingnoring him all together. I think at that moment Ed was totally smitten with Jim. Again, just a pure, sweet moment.

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oh what a neat crime & riddle solving friendship this could have developed into  (like even in  4x21 when they are kinda at odds the maze/labyrinth solving is blissful to watch ^^ )

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sunlitroom
Anonymous asked:

What does Jim smell like? :)

Hello anon :)  Thanks for asking :)

I think I have in the past said that I think Jim probably smells like plain old shower gel - possibly seeing aftershave as something that isn’t an everyday, especially when he’s in one of his puritanical scowly moods

However

Jim’s suits are all perfectly tailored to fit him. Now - that’s because he’s the hero, and has to look good at all times (the costume department have said they deliberately source second-hand, slightly too-big suits for Harvey’s rumpledness) - but the in-universe explanation for that is that Jim does actually care about his physical appearance and how he presents himself, probably more than he’d care to let on.  

So - I think he’d probably wear a discreet amount of something.   Not too old-fashioned: Jim has a reverence for his father, but he also feels conflicted about him, deep down.  Scent hits memory and emotion like nothing else, and I’m not sure he’d be able to stomach actually smelling like his father.

So - I think he probably wears something that Barbara bought him for a birthday or Christmas, and that he’s simply stuck to since then.  Barbara likewise feels conflicted about her own background, so I don’t imagine anything her father or uncles are likely to have worn.  Something Chanel, maybe?  Maybe something a little chilly and sharp - Barbara might have been head over heels for Jim, but she’s intuitive, and she’d maybe have subconsciously picked up on those aspects of him.  Possibly Lauder for Men, then - with galbanum and juniper. Crisp and green and clean - none of the heavy leathery scent of older men’s fragrances. But some sneaky little floral hints in there, too, since Jim does have a softer and more vulnerable side. 

When he’s been misbehaving, and is all bluster and self-righteousness, and trying to project his faults on to everyone else, I put him in the new and deeply awful reformulation of Dior’s Homme Sauvage.  It’s a scent that shrieks ‘I’m normal - don’t pay attention to me!’ at a truly obnoxious volume.  You know any of those scenes where he’s been morally dreadful, and looks like he’s breaking out in a cold sweat, and is alternating between desperately avoiding eye contact and self-righteous bellowing, and is terrified that he might have more in common with Oswald and Barbara and Selina than he would ever care to admit?  Dior Homme Sauvage.

Apologies to anyone who likes Dior Homme Sauvage :D

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wonderful post through and through I always love reading these pieces

and I might have a newfound unfair bias and prejudice against anyone flaunting  Sauvage :D

I’m glad you liked it, @inappropriatefangirlneeds.  Also for finally solving the mystery of the scent I had imagined Jim wearing! Another anon had asked about Jim’s scent, and I could not remember for love nor money - but it was Lauder for Men.  

A reviewer on the Fragrantica site describes it as ‘command and gentleness, compassionate authority’.  There’s a slight cool distance there - but it’s softer and more vulnerable at heart.  Jim at his best.

Jim in a nutshell .. or rather scent molecules ^^

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You know what, Jim, if you had believed Oswald about what was going on in Arkham all those years ago, investigated Strange and put him in jail, none of this would have happened. And you would be in a happy committed relationship with a person who adores you (and can’t have surprise babies) to boot %)

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ardentgarden

You know WHAT? This should have been the hallucination in 5x09, just Gobblepot all domestic because Jim wasn’t a huge asshole to Oswald just once. 

oh word  ....  and I don´t think it was just that he didn´t believe Oswald, a part of it likely was that it didn´t really matter to him if it was true or not because he´s a criminalTM and it´s not like Jim showed much concern for people he sees as such, like why bother while there´s still plenty of upstanding citizens to protect 

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sunlitroom
Anonymous asked:

What does Jim smell like? :)

Hello anon :)  Thanks for asking :)

I think I have in the past said that I think Jim probably smells like plain old shower gel - possibly seeing aftershave as something that isn’t an everyday, especially when he’s in one of his puritanical scowly moods

However

Jim’s suits are all perfectly tailored to fit him. Now - that’s because he’s the hero, and has to look good at all times (the costume department have said they deliberately source second-hand, slightly too-big suits for Harvey’s rumpledness) - but the in-universe explanation for that is that Jim does actually care about his physical appearance and how he presents himself, probably more than he’d care to let on.  

So - I think he’d probably wear a discreet amount of something.   Not too old-fashioned: Jim has a reverence for his father, but he also feels conflicted about him, deep down.  Scent hits memory and emotion like nothing else, and I’m not sure he’d be able to stomach actually smelling like his father.

So - I think he probably wears something that Barbara bought him for a birthday or Christmas, and that he’s simply stuck to since then.  Barbara likewise feels conflicted about her own background, so I don’t imagine anything her father or uncles are likely to have worn.  Something Chanel, maybe?  Maybe something a little chilly and sharp - Barbara might have been head over heels for Jim, but she’s intuitive, and she’d maybe have subconsciously picked up on those aspects of him.  Possibly Lauder for Men, then - with galbanum and juniper. Crisp and green and clean - none of the heavy leathery scent of older men’s fragrances. But some sneaky little floral hints in there, too, since Jim does have a softer and more vulnerable side. 

When he’s been misbehaving, and is all bluster and self-righteousness, and trying to project his faults on to everyone else, I put him in the new and deeply awful reformulation of Dior’s Homme Sauvage.  It’s a scent that shrieks ‘I’m normal - don’t pay attention to me!’ at a truly obnoxious volume.  You know any of those scenes where he’s been morally dreadful, and looks like he’s breaking out in a cold sweat, and is alternating between desperately avoiding eye contact and self-righteous bellowing, and is terrified that he might have more in common with Oswald and Barbara and Selina than he would ever care to admit?  Dior Homme Sauvage.

Apologies to anyone who likes Dior Homme Sauvage :D

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wonderful post through and through I always love reading these pieces

and I might have a newfound unfair bias and prejudice against anyone flaunting  Sauvage :D

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Turns me on every time Jim’s sexy neck is in danger, can’t help :p

Every time I think I’ve hauled myself away from this show, someone on my dash brings up a tempting gifset tailor made to appeal to me. 

no blade but there was also this in  5x06

[Pyg scene was  4x09 / Scarecrow 4x02   / Barbara Kean  2x18 / Nathaniel Barnes probably 3x19?)

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