The Immaturity of Thomas Astruc

After casually recalling a couple of fanfics I discovered that there was a believable way to involve Adrien in the season finale without compromising his identity in front of Monarch or Ladybug.

Okay, so in my version of the story Felix infiltrates Adrien and Kagami's cage and tries to rescue them, but Adrien doesn't know if he can face his father under these conditions, so Felix and Kagami convince him that he has to take more initiative in his life or he'll never get his freedom. Finally Adrien comes up with an idea.

With the help of the sentimonster camera, Adrien projects a video around the world where he reveals that he doesn't want to be a model and that he only does it to please his father. The message will set many of the akumatized free.

Monarch realizes that he is losing akumatized and Adrien's message reaches him in his alliance. Instead of Emilio's message, it is Adrien's message that tells him that he just wanted his family to be happy again and that although things are not perfect, he would like his father to accept him as he is.

Gabriel goes into a mental breakdown, knowing that the repercussions to the company for his son's confession will be very serious and he is no longer sure of fulfilling his wish.

Y... Instead of making the wish Gabriel falls agonizing in his last moments of life and talks to Marinette about the great mistakes he made in vain, he begs her to please make the wish to revive Nathalie by using himself as a sacrifice and although Marinette does not want to do it, in tears she resigns herself and makes the wish.

Either that or they both pay the consequences of their actions and Amelie moves permanently to Agreste Manor and dissolves the company.

I'm still legitimately confused why TA and so many fans think Adrien being in the finale would have just been Chat Blanc 2.0 since it absolutely would not have been. Chat Blanc, even Ephemeral, solely relied on Gabriel finding out first and having enough time to exploit it, which he would have been unable to do here due to ladybug finding out his identity first.

That's not even mentioning the fact that Gabriel would only be able to figure out Adrien's identity here if Adrien himself revealed it during the fight, which given Representation, likely won't happen.

And before someone says "BuT AdrIAn woUldN't abLe to hAndLe it StILl!!" the season 2 episode Collector literally shows that Adrien only needed a handful of minutes to mentally prepare himself when he and Ladybug briefly discovered Gabriel's identity, which he would have had more than enough time to do here before even reaching the battlefield.

Hell, he would probably even need less time now, then he did it back then due to Revolution and Representation occurring right before the finale.

Miraculous: "We need to learn that our emotions can get to the worst of us and that we must learn to control ourselves and not let them win in order to avoid being used, abused, lied to, or manipulated."

Also Miraculous: "Wait, you're expecting Chloe to change? Pffft, HAHAHAAHAHA! YOU'RE FUCKING LOST DUDE! CHLOE WAS AND WILL NEVER REDEEM! IT'S HER OWN FAULT SHE'S AN EMOTIONAL ASSHOLE!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Regarding Collusion, I would like to point out that chat did attempt to talk Chloe down peacefully before ladybug escalated the situation by trying to attack Chloe

I wonder if Gabriel’s obsession with Emilie was meant to be perceived as creepy. While his desire to bring back his deceased wife is quite understandable, his willingness to destroy the world for taking Emilie away from him is… odd. However, considering that the main couple of the show, Marinette and Adrien, are portrayed in a stalker-victim dynamic, I’m not entirely certain

I mean to be fair it would not be the first time people have taken their anger and rage out on someone due to the fact they were related to a monster even if all evidence points to them being unaware of their relatives actions, at least irl. Plus, we still have a few moments in the series where Roger and his goons think they know better than ladybug on certain matters

I'm sure if the inconsistency with the Adrien's feather allergy and him being a sentimonster made from a feather amok was brought up to Astruc, he would probably claim that it was an excellent piece of foreshadowing that was totally planned from the very beginning.

How come not a single character questioned our heroes, Ladybug especially, about trusting Felix with Peacock Miraculous? You know, the same Miraculous he snapped people out of existence on a whole dang planet? Was I the only one who was like "err. Okay, let's have him join, but maybe give him some other less dangerous jewelry"

I mean ofc, Thomas ain't gonna make Felix suddenly snap and pull this whole red moon again. But how would in-universe characters know? For all they know, this guy's first move after getting this dang peacock is to commit planet-wide genocide, what makes them think he won't do it again?

Or is it because he was crying from snapping the fellow sentimonster out of existence "boo hoo hoo, my senti-sister is gone :'(" is enough to qualify as a redeemed character? In that case, Gabriel didn't do anything magic terrorist and even son abuse because it was all reversed after making a wish. Ain't it? Ain't he a good person, huh?

Due to the show decided to give Marinette the most red flag similarities with Gabriel while never addressing them as bad things, combined with how she now knows she can easily take away Adrien's autonomy at a moment's notice, I'm very concerned on what would happen if Adrien ever wants to break up with her while she doesn't.

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Isn't the transformation phrase just an English dub exclusive?

The thing that gets me about their "upgrade" (besides how they got it, you don't just. decide to "grow up" and even if they did "grow up," they clearly didn't grow enough considering Marinette still keeps secrets/making decisions for Adrien and Adrien still has no self worth besides being Marinette's trophy) is that I can believe the writers would change up the rules for that in later seasons because they do just make shit up as they go along. They might even revoke those upgrades or give random upgrades to people at a whim if they have a cool idea they want to make work without actually putting in the work for story consistency. I mean look at the potions. Never heard about them again.

Lookin at your season 4 overview makes think Kagami should have just been Adrian’s confidant that season. There’s ZERO reason, as you said, that he should have kept the secret himself considering what he’s complaining about all that season.

I mean, Mr. pigeon76 revealed he's only allergic to Pigeon feather specifically, plus the amoks are the controller/item, not the Senti itself.

Honestly given the show's track record I wouldn't be surprised if Adrien ever gets a life-changing injury and Marinette makes it all about herself

You know for character that hates Liars Marinette sure does love lying, like seriously if I had a nickel for every time she would rather lie to someone because the truth would inconvenience her I would at least have a minimum of $25

Du you Adrian would will do a spider man 3. Billy move and turned evil after fining out about his dad

Just saw someone pointed out how Marinette randomly starting to crush on Chat for a couple of episodes in season 5 made even less sense than before due to Chat blanc, extensively they point out how Blanc told Lb to her face that their love caused the end of the world