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Fiona. 25. Rubber Soul & Revolver devotee. Taylor Swift connoisseur. Beatles history fanatic.
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I can’t find the interview that I read it in yesterday and I know that stories change over time and that a slightly different account shows up Loving John but if May Pang is telling the truth and John actually told her that he wished that Sean was his and her baby and not his and Yoko’s then JAIL JOHN, JAIL FOR ONE BILLION ZILLION YEARS.

GET A JOB! STAY AWAY FROM HER!

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“I screwed up with me first child,” he said between puffs, referring to his rough start with Julian, whom he had neglected literally since birth. During his delivery, John was playing a gig with The Beatles in East London, and just weeks later, he flew off to Barcelona for a vacation with Brian Epstein, leaving Cynthia alone to care for their newborn. “That’s what a bastard I was,” he said. “I just went on holiday. I was an invisible father. But I’m going to do me best this time. I’m going to devote me every waking moment to Sean. I’m going to be involved in every part of his life.”
And as far as I could tell, he proceeded to do exactly that, transforming himself into the world’s first—or at least most famous—househusband.
Back then, in 1975, gender roles were far more rigidly defined than they are today. Women were starting to break boundaries and claim new prerogatives as the feminist movement pushed for more sexual, economic, and political equality—but men were mostly stuck in the same old groove that had been carved out by their fathers and grandfathers. The idea of a man staying home to take care of a child while the mother went off to work seemed in those days as revolutionary as a world with no countries, no possessions, and no religion, too. It just wasn’t done.
John did it anyway.
I know some people suspected that John’s househusband years were some sort of PR stunt cooked up by Yoko to generate positive press. It was not. I know because, for the next six months, virtually every single phone call I had with John—and I had at least one a day—revolved around his son. He told me all about how he took Sean on walks through Central Park, carrying him in a pouch-like sleep sack on his chest, exploring the less-trodden pathways far afield from the Great Lawn. I heard endless tales about bath time—how John and Sean shared the tub together. About the VHS library John had assembled for Sean so that he wouldn’t be exposed to broadcast TV advertising (“Nature videos and things like that—so that his mind can run free”). About the shelves and shelves of books John had purchased for Sean to read “when he’s ready.”
John, he’s only a few months old,” I said, imagining stacks of J. Krishnamurti volumes piling up in Sean’s nursery. “What kinds of books are you getting him?”
“Children’s books!” he said. “What sort of books do ya think!”

We All Shine On - Elliot Mintz

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Anonymous asked:

Hypnotism as a cure for smoking is a well-established practice so it’s not implausible that John would have gone to the Dakota that day on that pretext, even if it was just out of curiosity. What May Pang later claimed however was that John was not just hypnotised but drugged and that it made him ill - he wasn’t the same afterwards. That’s not implausible either: Yoko surrounded herself with some very dubious people, at least one of whom (John Green) practiced Santeria occult rituals. So my question to your anon would be why would May Pang make this up? What would be her motive? Her book was brutally honest, and even though she wanted the reader to believe that John loved her, she didn’t whitewash any of his behaviour - she was upfront about his violence towards her. Why would she lie about this?

I'll let my anon respond if they want to and I don't 100% recall the passage, but just based on what you wrote here, these are my thoughts:

  1. If John was drugged, that wouldn't necessarily be Yoko's doing.
  2. If May is just witnessing the effect, she is herself guessing what caused them. (That's not me saying she's lying, I'm just saying she's not a doctor)
  3. I'm sorry, but May has every motivation to make herself out to be the healthier, better option for John as opposed to Yoko, his wife and her employer, who, yes, did not treat her well. Again, I'm not saying May has malicious intent nor that she's necessarily consciously lying. But her being honest about John's behaviour does not mean she can be perfectly objective about why he left her. I agree that her not sugarcoating his violence towards her makes her an overall relatively trustworthy source – but it doesn't make her infallible, and I don't see why it's not clear that the JohnandYoko love story undermines her specifically in a way she would have an interest to fight against.
  4. That being said, I understand that we don't really have a satisfying counter-proposition, which I do think can be jotted down to Yoko not necessarily wanting to be honest about this entire period. (Also thinking about Sean claiming he was conceived eleven months before his birth) That doesn't mean we can simply take May's account at face-value, I don't think. I don't see why if you can recognize Yoko has an interest in glossing over what happened in early '75, you can't see why May wouldn't have an interest in painting John leaving her as due to anything but the reason for 90% of breakups: he didn't want to be with her.
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why do you think john found it easier to play with ringo and george in the 70s than with paul. like even during that recorded jam session with him, paul and a few other musicians, he apparently took a lot of coke beforehand so it wasn’t a very productive jamming session. and then almost going to new orleans but then bowing out last minute even though may pang is quoted as saying many times he asked her about recording with paul again. it can’t just be about “oh he didn’t like creating with paul anymore” cause like this guy was asking everyone their opinion on it, talking to art garfunkel about “my paul, your paul” lol. i mean we know paul did want to, do you think john did too, or was he completely over mccartney?

I'm pretty sure the Art Garfunkel comment was something George said actually, but I digress.

I don't really think John's issues with playing with Paul were all that related to artistry. It was a bit that, probably more at the start when he needed a change of scenery, but I think it was mostly that they just weren't on good terms. John also stopped playing with George when their relationship soured. I don't know that I think John getting coked up before jamming with Paul in '74 is notable though. He was generally not being super healthy at the time.

The New Orleans thing will probably always be a bit of a mystery. It kind of seems like maybe John saw it as a Paul vs. Yoko thing – possibly because he couldn't see those two actually ever getting along. I also think John may have attributed a lot of meaning to the act of contributing directly to one of Paul's albums and he ultimately decided he wasn't ready to do that.

There may be more also… It sort of seems to me like his choice to return to Yoko in early '75 was partially about choosing a "family life" over Whatever He'd Been Doing During The Lost Weekend. I don't think that choice was only about avoiding Paul. I think it was also a lot about settling down, and for understandable reasons hanging out with Paul + his Picture Perfect Family would be very much the opposite of that while also seeing someone else thriving in that position.

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"At the Dakota once, after dinner, he pulls me into the bedroom, so I'm sitting on the end of his bed, and he says: 'I want you to tell me about your work with Paul Simon, because I understand you just reocrded in Nashville together.' We had just done 'My Little Town'. 'I'm getting calls from my Paul,' he said, 'who's doing an Allen Toussaint project. And he wants to know if I'm available for the recording. What should I do?' Can you imagine how I felt? John Lennon asking me for my advice? I could have pinched myself at that moment, because it made me realise in a flash: no wonder he captivated the whole goddamned world - he's so commercial. "He knew what to say to me that was connected and human and real and grounded and fascinating. And that's what he did with the whole planet earth. He was a hit record - his very being was like a hit. And I said to him: 'John, I would do it - put all personality aside and go with the fun of the blend. Make music with somebody you have made a sound with. A great pleasure is the thing to stick with.' He didn't take my advice."

Art Garfunkel in "It Was Twenty Years Ago Today," The Observer, December 3, 2000. Reprinted in The Beatles Literary Anthology, ed. Mike Evans, 2004

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This seems like new information.

May Pang, Independent (UK) 12/16/23 (x)

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On top of the sheer WTFery, this makes me wonder if maybe John expected May to try to get pregnant or otherwise fight dirty to keep him. That was how he ended up married to both Cynthia and Yoko, and I think it would have made it easier for him to truly split with Yoko if someone else was making the decision or if he felt like it was out of his hands. Maybe, irrational as it is, John interpreted May acting like a normal responsible adult as a rejection - guess she doesn't really love me if she's not trying to trap me here forever! While it feels like an oversimplification to bring everything back to John's parents, you do see that pattern in his life repeatedly: he wanted people to fight for him, to compete for his attention, and to demonstrate their love by playing mind games or seeking to control him. (There's a strong Mimi influence there as well - the one who *did* fight for him.) As lovely as it is to imagine the alternate universe where John married May and lived happily ever after, she was probably always going to be too well-adjusted for him.

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